EPTAxiom Statement - Page 10
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Frost
Korea (South)1042 Posts
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FREEloss_ca
Canada603 Posts
On October 22 2012 02:26 Soap wrote: Sorry, but this is absolutely pathetic. I cringe to think of all the hardworking koreans that would give a limb to be where he was, hell, people were sexually abused in WeRRa and this brat stands up to complain that fucking Boxer does not treat him well enough? Is this really the attitude we want to support? This is what I'm thinking. You were given the opportunity to be on a PROFESSIONAL Starcraft team; not only that but one founded and managed by the most famous person in e-sports history. If this Crank guy was so miserable, why would he not communicate this with his team and resolve things PROFESSIONALLY. It sounds like this Crank guy was depressed and made poor decisions. I also think it's funny how BoxeR just kinda said "fuck this" in this whole situation and has been laying low. This Jessica broad needs to stop relishing in what little attention she still has left. It seems with her career over she's milking all the attention she can. Just release all this evidence you have and be done with it. No one really cares anymore, your team is disbanded. All I care about now, is what's on the Emperor's horizon. A new chapter awaits.  | ||
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Frost
Korea (South)1042 Posts
On October 22 2012 15:58 FREEloss_ca wrote: This is what I'm thinking. You were given the opportunity to be on a PROFESSIONAL Starcraft team; not only that but one founded and managed by the most famous person in e-sports history. If this Crank guy was so miserable, why would he not communicate this with his team and resolve things PROFESSIONALLY. It sounds like this Crank guy was depressed and made poor decisions. I also think it's funny how BoxeR just kinda said "fuck this" in this whole situation and has been laying low. This Jessica broad needs to stop relishing in what little attention she still has left. It seems with her career over she's milking all the attention she can. Just release all this evidence you have and be done with it. No one really cares anymore, your team is disbanded. All I care about now, is what's on the Emperor's horizon. A new chapter awaits. To whoever wonders how bad Slayers situation was, think about this. Boxer is loved by many, but he also has had huge anti-fan groups who hated him. Boxer's had to deal with all kinds of bullshit ever since his PC Bang days for the past 12+ years. Everyone always praised Boxer for having a mentality being able to handle bullshits like that. He made Oov who had a VERY bad reputation in his amateur days to become a person that now a lot of people love. Now, in Slayers, it took him only 2 years to call it quits on these players. So yeah. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On October 22 2012 15:56 Frost wrote: Well, Biscuit's going to look silly IF Jessica decides to release that 58 minute recorded call between Boxer, Jessica, and Crank. Because you have heard it? | ||
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Frost
Korea (South)1042 Posts
Jessica's already hinted at Crank using very inappropriate words in the call to none other than Boxer himself so yeah he's going to look silly. | ||
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
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Eko200
United States101 Posts
Someone who really has a tape like that either releases it or leaves it in confidence. Doing otherwise is trying to hit someone below the belt and missing but the ref saw it anyway. People treating boxer like he is some sort of prophet. He has shown a lack of interest in SC2 yet still cashes in on his name. | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
On October 22 2012 17:15 Frost wrote: Jessica's already hinted at Crank using very inappropriate words in the call to none other than Boxer himself so yeah he's going to look silly. If this is true..... Catastrophe would be an understatement for Crank. I don't know the truth nor am I alluding to it, but when someone has a tape recording of you, you better tell the truth. edit: eko200, low blow dude.At least get your information correct before slandering people. | ||
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imPermanenCe
Netherlands595 Posts
On October 22 2012 00:16 masterbreti wrote: To be honest. This almost rather confirms Jessica's side rather than disagreeing with it. From my perspective it seems crank made a few mistakes in how to communicate with SlayerS. if he had just been honest with her from day 1 and told her he wants to leave the team and stream etc. She would say yes, like she had done with Taeja, Ganzi, Sleep, and many other former SlayerS players, She had even gone so far as to help other SlayerS players find a new team (Clide and KT). I think if he was honest with her, things would have been different, but he wasn't. He wanted to make money, although not a competely horrible thing, he didn't communicate with people and burned bridges instead of keeping them up. I think this makes Crank look really bad when it comes to business and makes him not very smart in hoiw he deals with people. If people have to look at this and disagree with Jessica based on this alone, then thats rather crazy since Crank confirms a lot of what Jessica is saying. You have a good point there. And as someone before said: "Oh I left the team and now I'm alone and have no money, well shit... I guess I need a new team after all." Crank hasn't acted properly either, but I guess Boxer and Jessica didn't act accordingly either, blaming all their players. So it's still somewhere in between. | ||
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Kenny_oro
Germany368 Posts
http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13439&id=1319143 According reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11w0i5/new_interview_with_crank_on_thisisgame_about/ | ||
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Dakure
United States513 Posts
Isn't that illegal in some countries? I think it is in the US.. Or well, it might not be allowed in court. Not sure. But maybe Korean laws are different. | ||
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On October 22 2012 17:15 Frost wrote: Jessica's already hinted at Crank using very inappropriate words in the call to none other than Boxer himself so yeah he's going to look silly. No he won't and I'm going to say this again, You folks feel so entitled to everything when in reality they don't owe you anything. At all. Get off your high horses. You're very lucky (if I can even call it that?) to get what you get. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46310 Posts
Hopefully this drama can be put behind everyone and they can all move forwards... | ||
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Shival
Netherlands643 Posts
On October 22 2012 20:43 Dakure wrote: Isn't that illegal in some countries? I think it is in the US.. Or well, it might not be allowed in court. Not sure. But maybe Korean laws are different. On October 22 2012 15:28 Roflhaxx wrote: People need to learn to take 'proof' (screenshots etc) with a grain of salt because the only part that you see is the accusers side of things. Things can easily be taken out of context, manipulated etc. An example of this could be that (lets just say for a moment) that crank and boxer squared up during the last 2 minutes of the conversation. Jessica (since she is the only one who actually records audio logs, wtf. Isn't that illegal anyways?) could just leave out the last 2 minutes. Besides, she has proven herself crazy with these crusades against people. (I wouldnt be surprised if I got lashed at too!) To stop unsubstantiated claims on this let me tell you how it is in nearly every civilized country. It's illegal for a third party to record audio logs of phone calls without a court order (there's a few exceptions to this, but not relevant right now). However if one of the parties that are having a phone call records the conversations it's not illegal, even if the other party doesn't know about it. | ||
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Kenny_oro
Germany368 Posts
On October 22 2012 21:06 Netsky wrote: http://esfiworld.com/news/thisisgame-interview-axcrank-translation Thanks for sharing that - That interview is actually very good. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
I don't think the "58 minute phone call" has been released yet, but when it is released, it's not going to end well for anybody. Bad call from CranK to release his statement at this time in that manner, unless he clearly remembered the entire phone call and made a calculated move. | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On October 22 2012 23:09 Kenny_oro wrote: Thanks for sharing that - That interview is actually very good. Yup, basically he is not afraid of her releasing the audio recording. Now Jessica can do one of two things 1) release the tape, but base on how confident Crank is on that audio recording and how his words got twisted, I am sure its not as bad as she said. 2) Not release the tape because Crank didn't say stuff that is as serious as what Jessica said, Aka a empty threat. She might cite her "feelings" for MMA alicia and ryung so she won't release the tape as it might implicate them. Guess we will find out soon, I am sure Jessica won't keep quiet after this interview | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
I always suspected that such a failure couldn't have happened with a competent management, but now this is clear : there wasn't any management in Slayers anymore. | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On October 22 2012 23:28 MrCon wrote: Wow, in this interview we learn that the upper management just did nothing at all, they transfered all the responsabilities to the players. This is incredible. I mean it was up to Crank to do the schedule work for foreign team leagues like IPTL or EGTL, what the hell. And then they blame their players haha. I always suspected that such a failure couldn't have happened with a competent management, but now this is clear : there wasn't any management in Slayers anymore. Are you korean? can you translate what they meant by "upper management"? I am quite confused with this phrase, does it mean the coaches? Or the sponsors and boxer,Jessica etc? | ||
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