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Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
October 22 2012 06:56 GMT
#181
Well, Biscuit's going to look silly IF Jessica decides to release that 58 minute recorded call between Boxer, Jessica, and Crank.
FREEloss_ca
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada603 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 07:00:05
October 22 2012 06:58 GMT
#182
On October 22 2012 02:26 Soap wrote:
Sorry, but this is absolutely pathetic. I cringe to think of all the hardworking koreans that would give a limb to be where he was, hell, people were sexually abused in WeRRa and this brat stands up to complain that fucking Boxer does not treat him well enough? Is this really the attitude we want to support?


This is what I'm thinking.

You were given the opportunity to be on a PROFESSIONAL Starcraft team; not only that but one founded and managed by the most famous person in e-sports history. If this Crank guy was so miserable, why would he not communicate this with his team and resolve things PROFESSIONALLY. It sounds like this Crank guy was depressed and made poor decisions.

I also think it's funny how BoxeR just kinda said "fuck this" in this whole situation and has been laying low.

This Jessica broad needs to stop relishing in what little attention she still has left. It seems with her career over she's milking all the attention she can. Just release all this evidence you have and be done with it. No one really cares anymore, your team is disbanded.

All I care about now, is what's on the Emperor's horizon. A new chapter awaits.
"Starcraft...It just echos brilliance and manliness." - Tasteless
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
October 22 2012 07:06 GMT
#183
On October 22 2012 15:58 FREEloss_ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:26 Soap wrote:
Sorry, but this is absolutely pathetic. I cringe to think of all the hardworking koreans that would give a limb to be where he was, hell, people were sexually abused in WeRRa and this brat stands up to complain that fucking Boxer does not treat him well enough? Is this really the attitude we want to support?


This is what I'm thinking.

You were given the opportunity to be on a PROFESSIONAL Starcraft team; not only that but one founded and managed by the most famous person in e-sports history. If this Crank guy was so miserable, why would he not communicate this with his team and resolve things PROFESSIONALLY. It sounds like this Crank guy was depressed and made poor decisions.

I also think it's funny how BoxeR just kinda said "fuck this" in this whole situation and has been laying low.

This Jessica broad needs to stop relishing in what little attention she still has left. It seems with her career over she's milking all the attention she can. Just release all this evidence you have and be done with it. No one really cares anymore, your team is disbanded.

All I care about now, is what's on the Emperor's horizon. A new chapter awaits.


To whoever wonders how bad Slayers situation was, think about this. Boxer is loved by many, but he also has had huge anti-fan groups who hated him. Boxer's had to deal with all kinds of bullshit ever since his PC Bang days for the past 12+ years. Everyone always praised Boxer for having a mentality being able to handle bullshits like that. He made Oov who had a VERY bad reputation in his amateur days to become a person that now a lot of people love. Now, in Slayers, it took him only 2 years to call it quits on these players. So yeah.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 22 2012 08:06 GMT
#184
On October 22 2012 15:56 Frost wrote:
Well, Biscuit's going to look silly IF Jessica decides to release that 58 minute recorded call between Boxer, Jessica, and Crank.

Because you have heard it?
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 08:15:58
October 22 2012 08:15 GMT
#185
On October 22 2012 17:06 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 15:56 Frost wrote:
Well, Biscuit's going to look silly IF Jessica decides to release that 58 minute recorded call between Boxer, Jessica, and Crank.

Because you have heard it?


Jessica's already hinted at Crank using very inappropriate words in the call to none other than Boxer himself so yeah he's going to look silly.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
October 22 2012 08:39 GMT
#186
Thanks for this TB
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Eko200
Profile Joined December 2010
United States101 Posts
October 22 2012 09:06 GMT
#187
Jessica is going to look silly if she doesn't release that tape in full.

Someone who really has a tape like that either releases it or leaves it in confidence. Doing otherwise is trying to hit someone below the belt and missing but the ref saw it anyway.

People treating boxer like he is some sort of prophet. He has shown a lack of interest in SC2 yet still cashes in on his name.
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 09:09:31
October 22 2012 09:07 GMT
#188
On October 22 2012 17:15 Frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 17:06 gruff wrote:
On October 22 2012 15:56 Frost wrote:
Well, Biscuit's going to look silly IF Jessica decides to release that 58 minute recorded call between Boxer, Jessica, and Crank.

Because you have heard it?


Jessica's already hinted at Crank using very inappropriate words in the call to none other than Boxer himself so yeah he's going to look silly.

If this is true..... Catastrophe would be an understatement for Crank. I don't know the truth nor am I alluding to it, but when someone has a tape recording of you, you better tell the truth.


edit: eko200, low blow dude.At least get your information correct before slandering people.
imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
October 22 2012 09:31 GMT
#189
On October 22 2012 00:16 masterbreti wrote:
To be honest. This almost rather confirms Jessica's side rather than disagreeing with it.

From my perspective it seems crank made a few mistakes in how to communicate with SlayerS. if he had just been honest with her from day 1 and told her he wants to leave the team and stream etc. She would say yes, like she had done with Taeja, Ganzi, Sleep, and many other former SlayerS players, She had even gone so far as to help other SlayerS players find a new team (Clide and KT).

I think if he was honest with her, things would have been different, but he wasn't. He wanted to make money, although not a competely horrible thing, he didn't communicate with people and burned bridges instead of keeping them up.

I think this makes Crank look really bad when it comes to business and makes him not very smart in hoiw he deals with people.

If people have to look at this and disagree with Jessica based on this alone, then thats rather crazy since Crank confirms a lot of what Jessica is saying.

You have a good point there.
And as someone before said:
"Oh I left the team and now I'm alone and have no money, well shit... I guess I need a new team after all."

Crank hasn't acted properly either, but I guess Boxer and Jessica didn't act accordingly either, blaming all their players. So it's still somewhere in between.
Micro at its best is like an elegant dance between two people trying to achieve a similar end.
Kenny_oro
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany368 Posts
October 22 2012 11:03 GMT
#190
Anyone here capable on translating thins:

http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13439&id=1319143

According reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11w0i5/new_interview_with_crank_on_thisisgame_about/
HerO | TaeJa | Sea | Polt | CranK Fighting!
Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
October 22 2012 11:43 GMT
#191
On October 22 2012 02:56 kuan888 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 21:29 megacrack wrote:
this is somewhat of a translation i did of that jessicas statement.. even though it in a rough form, it will give u somewhat to read over till someone do a professional translating:

im current in Thailand filming with a deadly schedule.
i really wanted to forget and rest
but you dont let me be.
i saw what cranks team had to say.
1.you said you were going to prove that what i wrote in the initial statement was wrong. you have to specify where i got it wrong and you have to prove to your best of abilities.
2. you heard cranks point of view and posted a statement (recording) based on his view, if you didnt do proper research on what is truth and what is wrong and just posted that up, you got to be ready for your consequences.
like the trickster, fruitdealer incident where the team only listened to their players for example.
3.while im at thailand working i double checked the recording between crank, boxer and i that goes for 57 minutes and 48 seconds.
if axiom does not provide proper evidence and keep on pushing that crank is in the wrong, i will provide this recording in front of media, myself and coach cella. if i only small portion of the recording, there maybe people thinking that it may be manipulated, so i will provide the whole file.
4. ill tell you this story has crank and 3 other people involved, truthfully, even the parts that i do not want to show because of the good bond and bad bond ( korean saying) that we had before, will be shown. so for the other people involved i want you to think carefully.
5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously.

i will make sure and as soon as i arrive to korea i will start planning..
i will arrive in korea on monday 8:10am and have another shooting at 10am so i will finish late at night.
i will make adjustments with the journalists for time schduling .
i want to forget everything and forgive, but people cannot see this.
im not doing this because i want to do thi, but im doing the way crank wants it to be.

to whoever can translate this, please send it to cranks team


Wow she record all her phone calls...?!

Isn't that illegal in some countries? I think it is in the US.. Or well, it might not be allowed in court. Not sure. But maybe Korean laws are different.
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
October 22 2012 12:06 GMT
#192
http://esfiworld.com/news/thisisgame-interview-axcrank-translation
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 22 2012 12:35 GMT
#193
On October 22 2012 17:15 Frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 17:06 gruff wrote:
On October 22 2012 15:56 Frost wrote:
Well, Biscuit's going to look silly IF Jessica decides to release that 58 minute recorded call between Boxer, Jessica, and Crank.

Because you have heard it?


Jessica's already hinted at Crank using very inappropriate words in the call to none other than Boxer himself so yeah he's going to look silly.


No he won't and I'm going to say this again,

You folks feel so entitled to everything when in reality they don't owe you anything. At all.

Get off your high horses. You're very lucky (if I can even call it that?) to get what you get.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44992 Posts
October 22 2012 12:53 GMT
#194
Really professional of TB to release this statement. Nice job

Hopefully this drama can be put behind everyone and they can all move forwards...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
October 22 2012 13:35 GMT
#195
On October 22 2012 20:43 Dakure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:56 kuan888 wrote:
On October 21 2012 21:29 megacrack wrote:
this is somewhat of a translation i did of that jessicas statement.. even though it in a rough form, it will give u somewhat to read over till someone do a professional translating:

im current in Thailand filming with a deadly schedule.
i really wanted to forget and rest
but you dont let me be.
i saw what cranks team had to say.
1.you said you were going to prove that what i wrote in the initial statement was wrong. you have to specify where i got it wrong and you have to prove to your best of abilities.
2. you heard cranks point of view and posted a statement (recording) based on his view, if you didnt do proper research on what is truth and what is wrong and just posted that up, you got to be ready for your consequences.
like the trickster, fruitdealer incident where the team only listened to their players for example.
3.while im at thailand working i double checked the recording between crank, boxer and i that goes for 57 minutes and 48 seconds.
if axiom does not provide proper evidence and keep on pushing that crank is in the wrong, i will provide this recording in front of media, myself and coach cella. if i only small portion of the recording, there maybe people thinking that it may be manipulated, so i will provide the whole file.
4. ill tell you this story has crank and 3 other people involved, truthfully, even the parts that i do not want to show because of the good bond and bad bond ( korean saying) that we had before, will be shown. so for the other people involved i want you to think carefully.
5.if crank goes on about anything other than what i wrote, like my personality, my other social attributes, or creating rumors my agency and i will treat this very seriously.

i will make sure and as soon as i arrive to korea i will start planning..
i will arrive in korea on monday 8:10am and have another shooting at 10am so i will finish late at night.
i will make adjustments with the journalists for time schduling .
i want to forget everything and forgive, but people cannot see this.
im not doing this because i want to do thi, but im doing the way crank wants it to be.

to whoever can translate this, please send it to cranks team


Wow she record all her phone calls...?!

Isn't that illegal in some countries? I think it is in the US.. Or well, it might not be allowed in court. Not sure. But maybe Korean laws are different.


On October 22 2012 15:28 Roflhaxx wrote:
People need to learn to take 'proof' (screenshots etc) with a grain of salt because the only part that you see is the accusers side of things. Things can easily be taken out of context, manipulated etc. An example of this could be that (lets just say for a moment) that crank and boxer squared up during the last 2 minutes of the conversation. Jessica (since she is the only one who actually records audio logs, wtf. Isn't that illegal anyways?) could just leave out the last 2 minutes. Besides, she has proven herself crazy with these crusades against people. (I wouldnt be surprised if I got lashed at too!)


To stop unsubstantiated claims on this let me tell you how it is in nearly every civilized country. It's illegal for a third party to record audio logs of phone calls without a court order (there's a few exceptions to this, but not relevant right now). However if one of the parties that are having a phone call records the conversations it's not illegal, even if the other party doesn't know about it.
Kenny_oro
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany368 Posts
October 22 2012 14:09 GMT
#196
On October 22 2012 21:06 Netsky wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/thisisgame-interview-axcrank-translation


Thanks for sharing that - That interview is actually very good.
HerO | TaeJa | Sea | Polt | CranK Fighting!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 22 2012 14:13 GMT
#197
The drama just won't end in peace =(

I don't think the "58 minute phone call" has been released yet, but when it is released, it's not going to end well for anybody. Bad call from CranK to release his statement at this time in that manner, unless he clearly remembered the entire phone call and made a calculated move.
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 22 2012 14:20 GMT
#198
On October 22 2012 23:09 Kenny_oro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 21:06 Netsky wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/thisisgame-interview-axcrank-translation


Thanks for sharing that - That interview is actually very good.

Yup, basically he is not afraid of her releasing the audio recording. Now Jessica can do one of two things
1) release the tape, but base on how confident Crank is on that audio recording and how his words got twisted, I am sure its not as bad as she said.
2) Not release the tape because Crank didn't say stuff that is as serious as what Jessica said, Aka a empty threat. She might cite her "feelings" for MMA alicia and ryung so she won't release the tape as it might implicate them.

Guess we will find out soon, I am sure Jessica won't keep quiet after this interview
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 22 2012 14:28 GMT
#199
Wow, in this interview we learn that the upper management just did nothing at all, they transfered all the responsabilities to the players. This is incredible. I mean it was up to Crank to do the schedule work for foreign team leagues like IPTL or EGTL, what the hell. And then they blame their players haha.
I always suspected that such a failure couldn't have happened with a competent management, but now this is clear : there wasn't any management in Slayers anymore.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 22 2012 14:32 GMT
#200
On October 22 2012 23:28 MrCon wrote:
Wow, in this interview we learn that the upper management just did nothing at all, they transfered all the responsabilities to the players. This is incredible. I mean it was up to Crank to do the schedule work for foreign team leagues like IPTL or EGTL, what the hell. And then they blame their players haha.
I always suspected that such a failure couldn't have happened with a competent management, but now this is clear : there wasn't any management in Slayers anymore.

Are you korean? can you translate what they meant by "upper management"? I am quite confused with this phrase, does it mean the coaches? Or the sponsors and boxer,Jessica etc?
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