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wwJd)El_Mojjo
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden173 Posts
September 13 2012 15:26 GMT
#1
In this blog I will share a few of my own build-orders I have come up with as a random player.

I always like to find new and different playstyles, but I usually try to use builds that are actually viable as well. Even though I am quite aware that most of the standard macro builds or timing pushes that you normally face on the ladder are more reliable and better overall, I still believe in the strength of unpredictability and the element of surprise. Which is why I also belive these builds can actually work. But most of all; variation makes the game so much more fun! ^^

I have recorded a few of my replays to showcase my favorite builds. Not all of them are weird, but some definitely are. I'm afraid my computer is not the best though, so I'll have to warn you about terrible video quality and sometimes lag as well.

TvsZ Ghost Drop to Marine Raven
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Chaotic game with no macro. Good thing it doesn't matter with this build (my favorite).
BO - rax 2gas (4-on-gas) oc marine academy techlab fac (6-on-gas) 2ghost port ghost medivac techlab banshee port techlab cc 2bay
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331394171

PvsP Phoenix DT
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My most evil strat. I have put quite a lot of thought into this build order...
BO - gate 2gas core robo gate ob immo stargate council phoenix forge gate phoenix shrine cannon ob phoenix dt
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331883072

TvsT 1Rax FE Ghost Drop
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Almost flawless ghost drop harrass. ^^
BO - rax marine oc cc 2gas bunker marine academy techlab ghost oc fac ghost port ghost 2gas ghost bunker medivac cc fac techlab
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/332026492

ZvsZ 1-1 Lings
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A really strong cheese build.
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/332028632

PvsT 5Gate
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Perhaps not my best force fields. But the build is strong...
BO - gate gas core gas 3gate warp-tech gate zeal/sentry 2x5stalker
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331418735

TvsT Ghost Drop (Pre-patch)
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The build-order with the highest win-rate I have ever had with a build. It doesn't work at all after ghost nerf.
BO - rax gas oc marine gas academy techlab ghost fac ghost port 2ghost medivac tank cc
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331416613

TvsT Ghost Expand (Pre-patch)
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Macro game vs a GM (alleged) player ^^ The build includes marauder/nuke to deal with tanks, but my opponent made pure marine so I skipped that part in this game.
BO - 13-gas rax academy techlab ghost oc ghost cc ghost gas mara stim 3rax oc fac bay nuke
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331411516

PvsT 3Gate VR
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Semi-cheese pressure to deny exp or slow down push while expanding yourself.
BO - gate gas core gas 2gate stargate nex 2gas council robo nex
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331767551

TvsP 1Rax Expand Ghost
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TvsP 1Rax Expand Ghost
BO - rax gas oc marine techlab shells mara reaper cc mara 3rax techlab 2reactor
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331420121

ZvsZ Nydus Hydra
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A very old replay that contains a lot of mistakes and suboptimal choices. But it showcases the general idea with one of my favorite ZvsZ builds.
BO - pool 2gas queen lair spines den nydus-network
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331808039

ZvsT Roach Hydra Infestor
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My standard ZvsT playstyle. Aggressive early game, passive expansive mid game and drones late game.
BO - pool gas queen warren hatch ling/roach drones lair hatch den pit 2evo
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331811218

ZvsP Roach
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A safe macro build. Standard game.
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331814285

ZvsP 3Roach Ling
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The best rush in the game vs gate openers imo! The protoss defended well though.
BO - pool gas warren queen 3roach 10ling hatch
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331816747

PvsZ Gate Forge
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The zergs never know what to do vs this build... (not my own build)
BO - gate gas forge core cannon nexus robo prism (chrono zeal and +1 attack with 5 zeal)
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331818902

PvsP 3Gate Phoenix
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Normal PvsP with transition to late game.
BO - gate gas core gas 2gate stargate
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331822497

PvsT Rush
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Early pressure to safe expand and tech.
http://www.twitch.tv/elmojjo/b/331983813


Enjoy ^^

If you have any questions I'd be happy to answer to the best of my abilities.
Feedback is also appreciated of course.

*
Gc.El_Mojjo
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
September 13 2012 15:50 GMT
#2
Why do you make a forge and a 3rd gateway for your phoenix dt build? If you're safe at that point, you'll be safe anyway right? Why does the extra production and optional cannons matter when you're killing them with dts? If you're going to expand to counter their cannon/expand, you can put the forge down after the nexus eh?
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
wwJd)El_Mojjo
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden173 Posts
September 13 2012 16:05 GMT
#3
Well, that build is such a big all-in cheese so it doesn't really matter if I get an expand up or not, if the cheese fails I'm probably so far behind anyways. My idea was that if the cheese succeeds, all I need to do is defend a base trade scenario, and I have a lot of minerals to spare, so I figured cannons would help a little bit at least. Also, I don't want to trigger an attack from my opponent before I get my dts out. At least not aftter I stop making stalkers. But you're right, the cannons doesn't make a huge difference in this case...
Gc.El_Mojjo
laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
September 13 2012 18:54 GMT
#4
Quick question: What level are these played at?
I'm an old man now
wwJd)El_Mojjo
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden173 Posts
September 13 2012 19:46 GMT
#5
Hmm, I'm in master league but not all the games are from the ladder. It's probably around top dia/low master with a few games against high master. But since I'm a random player my best games tend to be a bit better than the average game on my level (of course that also means my worst games are much worse than what you usually see at my level).
Gc.El_Mojjo
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
September 13 2012 20:00 GMT
#6
I was assuming that if they cannon their front, you can use a warp prism (with your extra minerals, so I assumed you'd get one anyway) to get in the base. In any case they have to put down cannons covering every structure they've made and they can't attack you for a long time because you'll obs snipe them, so while it seems ridiculous (and will be a longshot vs any competent player) you could transition into a macro game. Which is why I brought up the question. But I understand it's meant as a cheese win.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
wwJd)El_Mojjo
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden173 Posts
September 13 2012 22:51 GMT
#7
Also, if any of you have any really strange builds that you have come up with, I'd love to hear about them (regardless of level, I'm just looking for inspiration). I will probably try it out myself if the build seems wacky enough. =P
Gc.El_Mojjo
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
September 14 2012 06:40 GMT
#8
Well, a long time ago I used to 1base in pvp by going gate robo star, asap on the tech, and make immortal voidray zealot. If they build stalkers they die to immos. If they make zealots to fight your ground you back up and shoot them with voids. Against a mixed composition you let the void rays burn on and zealots rumble and walk your immos around while shooting the stalkers. Pretty fun, no transition.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
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