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Fear Nothing... But Fear Itself?

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MaxSteel
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
78 Posts
August 27 2012 00:21 GMT
#1
Three days ago, I experienced a feeling I haven't experienced in a long, long time.
No, that's not sadness - though I was sad by the passing of Violet, and thinking about it still sparks tiny stings in my chest, it is not the feeling I'm talking about. But on to that feeling a bit later.

You know, one of the reasons I don't play Starcraft too much is because of fear. Not the simply fear of failing, no. But rather, the fear of not having fear.
Wait, what? This sounds ridiculous. What am I talking about?

A few days ago, I was in the middle of my more active Starcraft week - I was playing dozens of games a day, and winning around 80%. TvZ, TvP, TvT, anything. High diam, low master, mid master, I usually won. I was about 5 points from reaching #1 diam.
Suddenly, something in my mindset changed a bit. I dunno what it was, probably just a bit of sudden depression after reading this. Very good blog, by the way, and if you haven't read it, you should consider doing so.

Anyhow, in a state of slight depression, completely unrelated to Starcraft, I lost a match.
At that moment, I was already a bit exhausted, both from the summer heat and the many games I already played, and maby duo to the hour as well, though I'm rarely tired at just midnight. Usually, I'd tell myself to stop, go take a break, maby even come back tomorrow... But, for some reason, I decided to be stubborn. I wanted to get that "one more win" before I'm done.
And so, I lost another match. The match after it I managed to win, though my execution was even more poor than in the last 2 matches. By that time, I should've definitly stop, but some strange mixture of feelings kept me from that decision. "Just one more win", I said to myself. "Just to even out that win-loss. If you stop now, you'll be giving in to ladder anxiety - just get one more win.". And so I played another match - and, expect idly, I lost. Again and again, I told myself the same words. Again, and again, played. Again and again, I lost.
One match followed the next, and my execution was became worse and worse with each time. From 14 gas in a 13 gas build and 11 Raxing in a 12 Rax build, to things like not getting Stim for a 10 minute Stim push, or completely fucking up a mid-game unit composition - all this coupled with horrible reaction timing and atrocious decision making.

After my 10th or so loss, I closed the game, and realized my head is aching, I can hardly stand, and my whole body can hardly keep balance while walking. Suddenly, I started to realized - I'm utterly exhausted, and has been this way since, if not before, that long before mentioned loss.
A second revelation came to my vary mind - I should have, by all and every mean, stop playing long time ago that day. Why didn't I, than? Apparently, I didn't stop because I was afraid. Afraid of being afraid.

I think that this is the right place to mention that this isn't the first time this happened - long time ago, in HoN, I sometimes lost a game, and became stubborn to play and win the next one. If it didn't happen, I'd get frustrated, queue again, and say "Fuck it, I'm winning the next one", playing worse and worse each time. It was all long ago, but the thing is, I somewhat remembered it, and at that time I learned from it. Up until 3 days ago, I always played Starcraft with caution, stopping when I feel tiredness, even if I was on a big winning streak or I haven't played many games yet. And 3 days ago, I fucked that all up (together with around 10 games worth of MMR).
In the end, I'll be fine. I took a short break (more for GW2 than for anything else), but tomorrow I'll play again, and build my points back. After all, you can get MMR just like you lose it. However, I can still taste that feeling - the feeling of "I really should have known better". That consequences of doing a stupid, retarded thing, that you'd never do if you stopped for even a minute to just think.

So, I guess my message to anybody reading this is: Be always mindful of your physical state, and never - ever - continue playing just because you "want to play a set number of games", "want to win at least one more game before you leave" or "don't want to fall to ladder anxiety".

It's important to play if you want to improve, but it's even more important to know when to stop.



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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
August 27 2012 03:37 GMT
#2
I've done the same thing a couple times. You just have it know when to stop! Unfortunately, sometimes we don't realize it's that time until it's too late. GL getting to masters! It's the hardest jump in league by far.
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Mattson
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Canada188 Posts
August 27 2012 04:30 GMT
#3
I remember in high school playing Everquest from when I got out of school up until I had to go to school the next morning at 7:00am.

I also take issue with you using 'fear nothing but fear itself' in your title. When FDR first used that phrase he didn't mean to take it literally. He was trying to sell Congress and a nation on a war. When you break it down and really think about it the idea is fucking retarded.

You admit to being 'afraid of being afraid.' This is so silly. You need fear. Fear is the prime motivating factor that drives humanity forward. Yet you... for some weird reason have a fear of fear.

If you're playing games to the point of neglecting yourself I highly recommend seeing a mental health professional. Obsession is a bad thing and you should try to get to the root of it so it doesn't control your life.

Cheers mate.
Cynicism isn't wisdom; it's a lazy way to say that you've been burned. Seems if anything you'd be less certain after everything you ever learned.
Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
August 27 2012 07:10 GMT
#4
I don't unserstand your title. You're afraid of becoming unaware of your physical and mental state and exhausting yourself beyond measure. How does that equal being afraid of not having fear ?
If you seek well, you shall find.
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
August 27 2012 08:46 GMT
#5
On August 27 2012 13:30 Mattson wrote:
You admit to being 'afraid of being afraid.' This is so silly. You need fear. Fear is the prime motivating factor that drives humanity forward.

Pretty much this.

@OP
I think you're looking too much into this. You were tired, so you made a quick decision which happened to be a stupid mistake.

Dayum tho, that's a pretty intense gaming session. Was it really dozens of games each day? >=24 games sounds like 6 hours at least...
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