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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 04 2012 23:58 GMT
#21
Get a ip block list, stop uploading(depending on your torrent program you can shut it off completely) and don't download from sketchy sites.

Use magnet links.
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CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
July 05 2012 00:05 GMT
#22
The way you were caught (more than likely, as in I'm very sure) is by your ISP tracking the upload rates of their clients. You must have been flagged for uploading too much information and then a manual check occurred to see what you were up to. Some employee somewhere gave the information they found to someone/something and it resulted in you getting warned.

Just stop uploading and you won't be flagged. Don't download an insane amount of things either.
flashimba
Profile Joined May 2011
225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 01:15:27
July 05 2012 01:12 GMT
#23
Please inform us whether you will remove or disable access to the Infringing Material as requested. MTS Allstream or the account holder may contact ESA at the above-listed contact details, with email preferred. Please include the above-noted Reference Number in the subject line of all email correspondence.


Do not reply to them. Replying with 'I have stopped downloading' or anything would be an admission of guilt. They don't have hard evidence against you until you do that.

Loads of worthless replies here, hope you see this in time.
flashimba
Profile Joined May 2011
225 Posts
July 05 2012 01:18 GMT
#24
On July 05 2012 09:05 CecilSunkure wrote:
The way you were caught (more than likely, as in I'm very sure) is by your ISP tracking the upload rates of their clients. You must have been flagged for uploading too much information and then a manual check occurred to see what you were up to. Some employee somewhere gave the information they found to someone/something and it resulted in you getting warned.

Just stop uploading and you won't be flagged. Don't download an insane amount of things either.


I highly doubt that.

The company that is tracking peers in the bittorrent swarm--in this case, ESA--traced his IP to his ISP and sent a notice of copyright infringement to them. The ISP is simply forwarding the message to him.
TechniQ.UK
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United Kingdom391 Posts
July 05 2012 01:31 GMT
#25
You should be fine, the notice didn't really say anything about legal action and generally isps and others are starting to do this sort of warning stuff in hopes that people will sort of fold over and pay a small fine before any real evidence is given or at least people will be scared enough to stop using p2p.

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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5784 Posts
July 05 2012 02:23 GMT
#26
On July 05 2012 05:36 Synwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 03:17 Shai wrote:
On July 05 2012 01:42 Synwave wrote:
Let me preface by saying that I know piracy is illegal and wrong. I was never a huge downloader in school and have only recently started downloading copyright material because it is so rampant among my friends and extended family.


So you know it is illegal and wrong (according to you) but all your friends and family are doing it so you decided to do it?
Then you got warned.

I don't understand the point of this blog. 1/5


You have never become desensitized to something being wrong? Like Jay-walking or online bullying?

I don't understand the point of this post. 1/5

EDIT: to add some content to this post, I will remind you blatently of the point of this blog post, as was written in the second paragraph of the OP.

"I was served with the following notice and don't know what it means. It might just be a warning? Or are they serving me and letting me know they're going to take more serious action? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm really anxious."

So you don't understand right and wrong when you've been desensitized to it and you don't understand a warning when you've been served with it. Got it the first time.

I did read the entire OP, it's something I do before replying.

What's illegal and what's wrong aren't identical sets.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 05 2012 06:25 GMT
#27
Luckily for you, you live in Canada, where the courts have basically ignored civil cases involving downloading of singular works (for reasons that it's essentially a misuse of the legal system).

More importantly, however, is that no major companies/organizations want to go to court with you. What most of them try to do is send you a "pre-settlement letter", in which they essentially threaten to take you to court unless you pay them the requested fee (yes, it does sound like blackmail). A decade ago, you probably would have been taken to court if you didn't respond. Nowadays it's too costly, so they're really just banking on you not wanting to go to court as well.

Granted, this is all based off of the last few years of legal actions in the United States, where statutory damages will range from $750-$150,000 for a single infringement, so they can use massive numbers to threaten you. In Canada, the damages would be much lower...even with Bill C-61 supposedly passing soon, the cap would be $5000 for a single lawsuit against you...so realistically, a settlement would be a fraction of that.

In addition to this, your ISP has absolutely no legal obligation to cut you off. They are not liable for your actions, or the actions of anyone else, and they also have no desire to play copyright cops for the rightholders. Even if the ESA is considering suing you (and that's a big "if"), you should have absolutely no fear of having your internet disconnected.


Now, everything I'm saying here is obviously the trend of these things, not the definitive course of action, so do not push your luck.
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