EPTI was told that automatic trannies have better gas mileage than sticks for a few years now.
Why do people buy automatic cars? They suck. - Page 3
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Zorkmid
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I was told that automatic trannies have better gas mileage than sticks for a few years now. | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
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whacks
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oBlade
United States6558 Posts
On June 08 2012 22:25 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Auto = Lower fuel economy Auto transmission costs more than manual on a new car (Here by maybe 1500-2000 per car) Clutch is far cheaper to replace than Auto transmission Can slow down with gears giving you more control with manual (especially good in Ice and Snow conditions) Slowing down with gears means less wear on brake pads = more cost savings You can bump start/roll start a manual if your battery is flat Don't need to worry if transmission fluid is topped up Manual = no idiots driving around with one foot on the brake and the other on the accelerator Also too many auto drivers mistaking the accelerator for the brake and just driving straight into houses or pedestrians , i see so many of these accidents it's not funny. Seriously the only reason i see people give for not driving a manual is it's hard to drive up a hill.Waaah waaah waaah no wonder the west is in decline with lazy attitudes like that.Toughen up kids. To finish hardly anyone in the USA can drive manuals anymore so learn manual and the beatnik kids who run around stealing cars won't be able to drive yours away. An automatic transmission might be a more costly repair, but you will have it worked on a lot less than your clutch and gearbox (depending on how you drive/your car model). You can engine brake in an automatic too, by... you guessed it... downshifting. I won't comment on the battery and transmission fluid because it should be obvious a responsible car owner would follow their maintenance schedule no matter what kind of transmission they had. Fuel economy is dubious, and what about the obnoxious case of being in a traffic jam with a clutch? If you don't have the steering wheel on the right you'll have to deal with shifting with your dominant hand. If you're racing (or just really aggressive) you have to master using the brakes and accelerator simultaneously with one foot. Essentially the only reason people drive a manual to begin with is they existed first. But you can get nice acceleration and clutch drifting. | ||
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On June 09 2012 05:20 Angel_ wrote: i drive with one foot on the gas and the other for my brake pedal. what is the problem? oh you mean idiots that sit with their foot pushing down on the break while they gas? that's not unique to automatic transmission drivers. Lol, no he's talking about people who are doing exactly what you're doing. | ||
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
On June 09 2012 05:23 TheToast wrote: Lol, no he's talking about people who are doing exactly what you're doing. uh. what's the problem again? | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
On June 09 2012 04:37 oBlade wrote: An automatic transmission might be a more costly repair, but you will have it worked on a lot less than your clutch and gearbox (depending on how you drive/your car model). You can engine brake in an automatic too, by... you guessed it... downshifting. I won't comment on the battery and transmission fluid because it should be obvious a responsible car owner would follow their maintenance schedule no matter what kind of transmission they had. Fuel economy is dubious, and what about the obnoxious case of being in a traffic jam with a clutch? If you don't have the steering wheel on the right you'll have to deal with shifting with your dominant hand. If you're racing (or just really aggressive) you have to master using the brakes and accelerator simultaneously with one foot. Essentially the only reason people drive a manual to begin with is they existed first. But you can get nice acceleration and clutch drifting. Well i've been driving manuals 10 years and have never broken a clutch so in my experience i can't say that is true. As to the traffic jam point that is when most rearends happen because people in automatics keep it in drive , lose concentration for a split second and go to reach for their handbag on the passenger seat or whatever and let their foot off the brake and the car slams into the back of the car in front.Happens all the time here. And the guy changing from 5th to 1st in one gear change , really? says alot about peoples knowledge sadly.... | ||
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jacosajh
2919 Posts
On June 09 2012 06:39 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Well i've been driving manuals 10 years and have never broken a clutch so in my experience i can't say that is true. As to the traffic jam point that is when most rearends happen because people in automatics keep it in drive , lose concentration for a split second and go to reach for their handbag on the passenger seat or whatever and let their foot off the brake and the car slams into the back of the car in front.Happens all the time here. And the guy changing from 5th to 1st in one gear change , really? says alot about peoples knowledge sadly.... What I gather from this is that manual is a good way of preventing irresponsible or stupid people from getting into that situation. Unfortunately, I think people that irresponsible or stupid will cause problems another way, manual or automatic. | ||
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Xiron
Germany1233 Posts
It may happen that you press both at once, I guess. Topic: Over here, 95% of all people drive manual, so it's not even a point of discussion for me. | ||
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ecstatica
United States542 Posts
You can drop gears using automatic as well... Im pretty sure it always has 1 2, often 1 2 3 lol Aside from better control/negligible fuel efficiency its nothing. You can learn to drive manual in 1 day yet ppl that drive manual think they are somehow better drivers which makes me laugh. Ive driven both and now I prefer auto hands down. | ||
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Xiron
Germany1233 Posts
On June 09 2012 07:23 ecstatica wrote: Its easier. Its less hustle. It gives me a free hand at all times if I need it. Its beneficial in traffic/gridlock situations. Its all about extra comfort. Manual doesnt give you extra comfort - that's enough of a reason in itself. You can drop gears using automatic as well... Im pretty sure it always has 1 2, often 1 2 3 lol Aside from better control/negligible fuel efficiency its nothing. You can learn to drive manual in 1 day yet ppl that drive manual think they are somehow better drivers which makes me laugh. Ive driven both and now I prefer auto hands down. You can learn it in 1 day, but lots and lots of time to get used to it. The thing is, driving automatic makes you lazy, means you are paying less attention, sometimes resulting in crashes. With manual you have to focus more. That does not make you a better driver but a more attentive one. | ||
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419
Russian Federation3632 Posts
with only one example you might call lazy | ||
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jacosajh
2919 Posts
On June 09 2012 07:29 Xiron wrote: You can learn it in 1 day, but lots and lots of time to get used to it. The thing is, driving automatic makes you lazy, means you are paying less attention, sometimes resulting in crashes. With manual you have to focus more. That does not make you a better driver but a more attentive one. If the same dumb people are getting into accidents with an automatic what makes you think they will do better by making them use both hands and feet? | ||
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LaSt)ChAnCe
United States2179 Posts
On June 09 2012 07:29 Xiron wrote: You can learn it in 1 day, but lots and lots of time to get used to it. The thing is, driving automatic makes you lazy, means you are paying less attention, sometimes resulting in crashes. With manual you have to focus more. That does not make you a better driver but a more attentive one. no, driving automatic doesn't "make you lazy" - it also doesn't mean you are paying less attention - I have all the more attention to pay since I don't have to notice what RPM I'm at, or changing gears at all, ever you have to focus more on your car - that doesn't mean you are focusing more on other cars; the contrary, actually | ||
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FullNatural
United States180 Posts
to the guy above. Driving an automatic car surely means you are paying less attention. It's common sense. When something is so highly automated it leaves the driver with almost nothing to do. What do people do when they are bored? Do they constantly scan intersections and look for people popping out of driveways? NO. They pick up their phone and start texting. Or use their free hand to feed their face. These are things u can't easily do while driving stick. because there is not a butt load of dead time. u have to pysically make the car do what u want it to do. thus putting u in connection with the car and making u aware of what is around u. | ||
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seiferoth10
3362 Posts
On June 09 2012 13:33 FullNatural wrote: I think automatic cars should be banned. Well, except maybe for people who lost and arm or leg or something. Otherwise I think all cars should be stick. If u cant drive stick then take the bus. Imagine how much safer the road would be. People would actually have to pay attention to what the hell their car is doing on the road. Less texting and eating while driving as well. to the guy above. Driving an automatic car surely means you are paying less attention. It's common sense. When something is so highly automated it leaves the driver with almost nothing to do. What do people do when they are bored? Do they constantly scan intersections and look for people popping out of driveways? NO. They pick up their phone and start texting. Or use their free hand to feed their face. These are things u can't easily do while driving stick. because there is not a butt load of dead time. u have to pysically make the car do what u want it to do. thus putting u in connection with the car and making u aware of what is around u. So you want the people who are using their phone and/or eating to also worry about working their manual transmission? That would clearly cause even more accidents. What makes you think just because the car is manual that people would cease this behavior? Edit: Also, why have power steering? When you can turn the wheel with one hand, you can use your phone right? Remove power steering from all modern cars. | ||
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419
Russian Federation3632 Posts
On June 09 2012 13:33 FullNatural wrote: I think automatic cars should be banned. Well, except maybe for people who lost and arm or leg or something. Otherwise I think all cars should be stick. If u cant drive stick then take the bus. Imagine how much safer the road would be. People would actually have to pay attention to what the hell their car is doing on the road. Less texting and eating while driving as well. to the guy above. Driving an automatic car surely means you are paying less attention. It's common sense. When something is so highly automated it leaves the driver with almost nothing to do. What do people do when they are bored? Do they constantly scan intersections and look for people popping out of driveways? NO. They pick up their phone and start texting. Or use their free hand to feed their face. These are things u can't easily do while driving stick. because there is not a butt load of dead time. u have to pysically make the car do what u want it to do. thus putting u in connection with the car and making u aware of what is around u. ban GPSes, better that drivers read maps while running stop signs | ||
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oBlade
United States6558 Posts
On June 09 2012 13:33 FullNatural wrote: I think automatic cars should be banned. Well, except maybe for people who lost and arm or leg or something. Otherwise I think all cars should be stick. If u cant drive stick then take the bus. Imagine how much safer the road would be. People would actually have to pay attention to what the hell their car is doing on the road. Less texting and eating while driving as well. to the guy above. Driving an automatic car surely means you are paying less attention. It's common sense. When something is so highly automated it leaves the driver with almost nothing to do. What do people do when they are bored? Do they constantly scan intersections and look for people popping out of driveways? NO. They pick up their phone and start texting. Or use their free hand to feed their face. These are things u can't easily do while driving stick. because there is not a butt load of dead time. u have to pysically make the car do what u want it to do. thus putting u in connection with the car and making u aware of what is around u. You have to physically make the car do what you want it to do. Okay. That's exactly what an accelerator and brake pedal do. I don't think a stickshift is going to make people pay much more attention for instance on the freeway when you're just cruising in fifth gear. You people are confusing that only skilled US drivers will tend to drive manuals with the idea that driving a manual somehow makes you a good driver. Being a good driver makes you a good driver. I'd definitely prefer the idiot drivers in automatics that they can barely control than manuals that they can barelier control. This is like saying people are better at juggling bowling pins while they practice circular breathing because they aren't just juggling bowling pins and it forces them to pay more attention. For novices, splitting your attention makes you worse, which is all that would happen if you took auto transmissions away from them. | ||
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