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As some of you may be aware, I have rage problems in games.
While I want to gg and be sportsmanlike like notable manner-bears WhiteRa and Sheth, I often get swept up in anger at losing a game especially if it's to prove something like gaining ladder points, getting a high winrate or just wantint to get out of Gold League. Alas, most ladder games I've lost in the last few months I've said some mildly bad mannered things post game.
First Attempt - TeamLiquid Thread:
After a fourth ban (or to be more specific, after a second three-day suspension) I feared getting a 7 day or permanent ban over another incident of BM and so sought advice from TL via a (locked) thread on the Strategy forum. When I asked for help on how to gg on top of how to improve from my losses, I basically got these responses back:
You want advice on how to stop being a little immature twat ? Sorry, can't help you.
no one wants to help a jerk. big surprise. it's really obvious that you can't micro or macro at all but you don't believe that when people tell you.
I was about to post some suggestions, but after seeing your bm I hope you figure out how to change your attitude before you ever win again. You are a jerk and I don't help jerks and I hope no one else here does until you decide to be a respectable human being. When that happens I will be more than happy to devote time to help you.
Stop being a prick because someone not only scanned your main to see 4 rax no gas FE, and did a tank push (playing smart).
That's what you get when you're obviously a BM prick,
Not hating on the banling who locked the thread because he had justifiable reasons as it all derailed into a cesspool of shitty responses anyway. However, I was blamed for "not taking advice" when none of the above responses (literally copied and pasted from said thread and representing a majority of the responses) helped me or even gave any advice and to be frank they shouldn't have even belonged to the Strategy forum in the first place.
Sorry, but if users are going to reply to a request on how to stop raging with the following responses....
- Just stop fucking raging, it makes you look stupid. Not giving actual advice here.
- A "You're an asshole and I won't help you, and I will explicity make this clear in a useless response to an advice thread" response.
.....then it shows the true ignorance towards problems like these, doesn't it?
Then after the Destiny crap hit the fan, I noticed that both the incident that led to his release from Quantic and his blacklisting from the Gigabyte LAN event and the Orb incident that got him fired from Evil Geniuses as a caster were both bouts of nerd-rage where the community responded by maliciously spamming sponsors.
True, Destiny kinda brought it on himself by acting like he had the right to say these racist terms and Orb swept it under the rug initially (because admitting to such a thing would have been a damning indictment anyway and it happened so long ago.) However, spamming sponsors is not right and the fact that both incidents led to that response just highlights the unwillingness to suggest ways to stop/prevent future incidents like this.
Why am I linking rage to pro-gamer conduct? Because is there a form of media training for these players? I recall KeSPA players having some form of mandatory media training every year, or at least a seminar on esports ethics.
Second Attempt - Unbinding Hotkeys:
After a few Google searches and finding a similar thread on the Heroes of Newerth forum suggesting this, I decided to give it a try. Thus I:
- Unbound Enter
- Unbound Shift+Enter
- Unbound Ctrl+Enter
As I don't generally play team games, I didn't see the point of text chat, so I dropped it.
However, two big issues:
- If you want to chat on a chat channel, you have to click the Social button on your UI then type in the window if it's displayed. You can't press Enter then TAB to flick to another chat channel.
- This option doesn't stop me from letting my anger out post-game.
Anyway, rant over. Are there any legitimate ways to prevent yourself from ranting at your opponent after a loss? And can we please suggest serious suggestions at improving this in general for the community? I mean all I've heard so far in terms of actual advice is "play to improve, not to win" but I cannot get myself into this mindset at all.
  
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I raged a lot of times too, never got banned for it though cause I don't swear or spam heavily.
It's ok to rage if you do it the right way, just be creative with it in a way that it offends your opponent without being overly offensive (like calling him a retard, telling him to die or spamming you suck, you mad x 20 times).
Alternatively, if there's something you really like, like some snacks or cigarettes if you are a smoker:
Just reward yourself for losing and don't for winning. At least you will have a reason not to rage cause there's a positive side to it too. And it will also train your discipline in a better way than simply 'not raging'.
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On May 28 2012 08:41 Cattivik wrote:
I raged a lot of times too, never got banned for it though cause I don't swear or spam heavily.
It's ok to rage if you do it the right way, just be creative with it in a way that it offends your opponent without being overly offensive (like calling him a retard, telling him to die or spamming you suck, you mad x 20 times).
Alternatively, if there's something you really like, like some snacks or cigarettes if you are a smoker:
Just reward yourself for losing and don't for winning. At least you will have a reason not to rage cause there's a positive side to it too. And it will also train your discipline in a better way than simply 'not raging'.
I think that would be a start.
Thing is people hate ragers. I mean look at why my blog post was given a 1 almost immediately after posting.
I don't want to rage. At all. I mean not throwing offensive insults to the point where I get banned would be a start...
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Really, this is a problem you need to solve yourself, but I'd be happy to put you on the path to solving it. You see, "Rage" is not a single problem that I can tell you how to deal with. There are many forms of rage, and they each require different solutions. Yes, extreme willpower can be used to stop you from expressing your rage, but not only is this impractical for most, it does not solve the real problem. Here are some examples:
Rage due to high expectations of yourself: This can be either because you judge yourself by your own best play, and so when your play naturally fluctuates down, you get pissed at yourself (This is my problem, though it's not as bad as yours.) or you judge yourself by the pros and want to play like them. It's a real problem in that we watch our own replays, maybe, and we watch pro games. We don't have somewhere in between to aim for.
Rage due to caring too much about your ladder score.
Rage due to poor circumstances in your own life.
Rage due to self-loathing. (This seems really emo and suicidal, but it's really not. This kind of rage is when you rage not at your opponent, but at yourself. Instead of "Fucking cheesing noob" it's "Fucking hell, I lost to that shit, I am so fucking terrible.")
I'm certain there are more. The fact is, the best way to deal with rage is to find out what's causing you to rage in the first place, and try to fix the underlying issue. That may not fix the rage, at least right away, but if you at least start to fix the underlying problem, it should be easier to exert self-control to avoid BMing people.
Congratulations, by the way. It takes guts to ask for help again after the kind of responses you got, and most people who rage like you never realise they have a problem. It's much more common than people think: MOBAs are just awful, and you'll get someone raging hard every couple of games.
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I'm confused. Are you somehow not in control of your own actions? When you lose a game, you just go UOGHAUAUAOGH and your eyes go red and your hands type racial slurs in all caps of their own accord? Pretend you're playing against a AI, and no one is going to hear whatever you type into chat. If you really need some sort of outlet, get in the habit of doing something else. Every time you lose, hit enter, type gg, hit enter, hit f10, hit n, stand up and go for a walk. Or go do 20 pushups, or whatever.
Take a few minutes to chill out, remind yourself it's just a game and nobody gives a fuck whether you won or lost, or what league you're in or how many ladder points you have. When you go back to your computer, hit find match and play that game as though it were your first game of the day. You're not trying to prove anything to yourself, you're trying to play a game you enjoy. So do it. Games are supposed to be fun. If you're not having fun, go do something else until you feel like you'd have a good time playing another game.
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I've been starting each game with a glhf♥ to get myself in a good mood at the start of every game. I also end *almost* every game with a gg or gg wp. I get alot of bm, especially from making the ♥, along with balance whine, but being manner and not getting upset over losses and to just keep playing is much more important than acting like an idiot on the internet. Maybe doing something like that might help change your attitude and make playing more enjoyable - I know it has for me.
glhf♥!
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There was once a blog named 'We get outplayed more than what you think'. Go look it up when you have time.
You just have to open up your mind and look at the the match you just played not just from your point of view. Quite frankly, at your league (Gold?), you may have your basics of 'macro' (ie: you build sufficient workers, spend your money, have units etc.., nothing to brag about) but remember, you do not know your enemy, thus you submerge yourself in rage/anger on your loss.
Starcraft Mentality Rule Number 1: Respect your enemy.
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+ Show Spoiler [My Background] + I'm in your boat, but in BW. Thankfully, I can't be banned there, and I have never been voided,banned,muted,or warned due to my rage(BW is almost never moderated). If you are punished in brood war, its usually for doing things like loading up bots on different Keys to spam/fill up chat channels, and then you are almost always just muted or voided(forced to be stuck in a heavily moderated channel where u can't even talk to or see anyone else in the channel).
I rage after losses, mainly versus terran. I rage like no other. And yet, I always look to improve myself. I have a little over 25 (max amount of friends that can be added on BW) active friends and well over, possible even twice that amount in inactive friends on battle.net. And yet, I also have an unknown and uncounted number of enemies.
Some from people mistaking me for the guy that drop hacked them(I own a mac, I have no hacks, AHs, or detectors). Some from actual hackers raging at the fact their windows-only crash hacks fail against me, not realizing I have a mac. Some from raging at hackers that use their hacks to ruin the game for me and/or my friends. Very few from raging at people who beat me in 1v1. Only 1 from TL, you know who you are :/. Note: These are all in-game friends/enemies, some I know on other sites, such as TL, but mostly I only know them from the game itself, or maps my friends have made.
So, I've been through most of what you have in terms of that huge NEED to rage. It is like I have to rage. It is hard to explain. It is like that feeling you get when there is an emergency. That rush. So strong that you barely have time to think. If the opponent rages at me first, I often reply in turn because it just makes that rush that much stronger.
Some tricks I've learned over the years:
-STOP
-Stop
Stop, before you type that "**** YOU"
Think about what you should do instead
Opt out of the game/conversation/situation. Don't rage, leave. Or just ignore them. IRL walk away.
Progress. Put your plan into action. If you can't find a reason not to rage, do steps 1-4 again.
If I do rage, which is often, I do it jokingly. I sometimes do spam "**** YOU" abbreviated but I make sure to do it in a way that my opponents/allies know I don't mean it. I do this safely by doing it with those that have already played with me when I raged/joked. I've called allies noobs by saying "Lol look at teals' mass pylons, he is totally pro." in a 3+ player game. Offensive to him, but to everyone else is a joke. There are much better ways to do this, but I can't think of any good examples at this moment.
Anger Management, tips to control@4th page. Should also help.
I still struggle with this but I've gotten better. Sometimes in BW I'm forced to 1v1 a terran and I warn them I will rage/lose. A lot of people rage when they lose, so don't feel alone. Most people on TL have raged at one time or another, some more than others, even if they are afraid to admit it. At least you don't try to ignore it, but take a step forward. 5/5'ed
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On May 28 2012 10:24 ArcticMuse wrote:
I've been starting each game with a glhf♥ to get myself in a good mood at the start of every game. I also end *almost* every game with a gg or gg wp. I get alot of bm, especially from making the ♥, along with balance whine, but being manner and not getting upset over losses and to just keep playing is much more important than acting like an idiot on the internet. Maybe doing something like that might help change your attitude and make playing more enjoyable - I know it has for me.
glhf♥!
I'm not the only one that types <3 often? :o
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It's a little odd that you are capable of writing such a well-written and understandable post but can't control yourself from abusing people for no reason. Why do you need to unbind hotkeys? You're still going to be mad as shit after a loss.
Instead start learning to play the game better and stop being obsessed with winning. If you lose you should learn from it and seek to keep improving. If you take this attitude you can rank up leagues in no time rather than just sitting in the same league in a cycle of rage. With this attitude of self-improvement you can take your losses in stride, calmly.
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