• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:42
CET 11:42
KST 19:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool42Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Explore the Palmistry Certificate Course at Bivs Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Soulkey's decision to leave C9 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ JaeDong's form before ASL [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group A ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2276 users

The ideal pocket calculator?

Blogs > [F_]aths
Post a Reply
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 11:55:40
May 24 2012 10:30 GMT
#1
Since 1995, I use pocket calculators quite frequently. I noticed that no calculator is optimal. Newer machines were even more convoluted. Who develops pocket calculators? Are those guys even using their own ones? I need the functionality to not get in my way when I want to perform easy calculations, yet I do need access to advanced functions, too.

Now in 2012, my quest seems to be over as I probably found my machine. Before I begin, let's state that this fine piece of technology probably isn't for you. Once, you cannot hide trailing zeros after the decimal point. Even worse, this calculator only operates in RPN mode. The commonly used algebraic mode isn't even an option! However I got used to RPN on another HP device and find it more efficient and more elegant than the algebraic mode.


[image loading]

5x3 inches case size means it fits in my shirt bag.



The mechanics

I bought an HP-15c Limited Edition. It cost me outraging 80 €. You can get calculators with a lot more functions for half the price. Still, I don't regret the purchase a single bit.

This calculator has a single-line display. No distraction with seeing two numbers at once. The single-line display keeps the form factor small and handy, I can actually put the 15c in my shirt bag. It is a true pocket calculator.

The display has very good contrast. It does NOT use dots to compose the digit glyphs, it uses a 7-segment display instead. One can swap point and comma for decimal separator and thousand separator. As I am from Germany, I use the comma as decimal separator.

Then the keyboard! Forget your cheap Casio keys. This machine has wedge-shaped keys which also give you some feedback when you press them. I doubt this re-release of the HP-15c offers the same mechanical quality of the original machine, but it's still above other calculators I own.


Layout

The best thing on this device is the extremely well thought-out layout. Keys are arranged in 4 rows and 10 columns. The entire right half is used for number entry and basic arithmetics. The Enter key spans two rows. The left part of the keyboard offers scientific functions and commands for programming.

I looked for something to complain, but didn't find a fault with anything. In fact I have to praise the logical stringency of the key assignment. Any single key position and function assignment feels natural. For example, the 1/x operation and the change sign operation are on keys next to each other.

The backspace key also offers to clear the entire X register with down-shift. The key to change the sign allows to cut any sign (calculate the absolute value) with down shift. FRAC and INT are on the same key, just with a different shift. Shifted functions like the FIX, SCI and ENG options are easy to find.

There are shortcuts to run programs. No “File” submenu or something. Anything can be reached directly through the keyboard.


Less use of the shift key

STO and RCL for variable usage are available without shift. It is also possible to perform some calculations to change a variable value without the need to recall it first. Register scrolling (an RPN feature) and X-Y register swapping are available without shift, too. 1/x and y^x are available without shift, again. I use those functions frequently.

Some operations need an function on a shift key while that shifted function is the only logical input from that key. The calculator smartly knows this so in this case one can omit the shift key.


Functions

The 15c offers most of the functions you expect from a scientific calculator. Percentage difference calculation is also offered. I need this rather often at work.

Complex numbers are supported, though the handling of them is a bit tricky since only one component (real or imaginary) can be displayed at a time. Most functions work seamlessly in complex mode, including trigonometric functions. The calculation of e^-iπ results in a small error in the imaginary part as π cannot be represented accurately with a limited number of digits.

Some functions like matrix operations are limited to real numbers though, but it is possible to effectively work with complex matrices with some extra steps.

The statistic functions are limited to linear regression. No other approximation is provided. The gamma function is offered, though. Numerical root-solving is available, too, as is numerical integration.

Considering the single-line display, matrix handling is surprisingly practical on the 15c. Many calculator operations work with matrices, it is also possible to calculate some norm forms or the determinant of a matrix. It is very easy to invert a matrix. So linear equations can be solved very efficiently. The calculator offers a user mode which automatically shifts the index one further when STO or RCL is used to set or recall matrix elements.


Programming

I sometimes need the logarithm to the base of two, and the according anti-logarithm 2^x. So I programmed those functions to complete my calculator. One can use up to five letter labels (A - E) for programs, up to 10 number labels (0-9) and 10 more labels (with a leading decimal point.) The letter labels are the quickest to reach, the other 20 can be called with GSB (Gosub.) Thankfully, GSB doesn't require a shift.

In user mode, one does not even need to use the shift key to call a letter program. The original functions on those keys do not vanish in this mode, they are still available but through shift this time. Sometimes I need to add or subtract VAT or convert between currencies. Thanks to the user mode I can use the 15c like a simple business calculator, too, and perform these operations with a single keystroke.

The programming capability doesn't clutter up the keyboard by much, only 4 of the 39 keys are mainly used for programming.

Now you laugh about the calculator's memory of mere 448 free bytes, shared between programs and user data. A number occupies 7 bytes of the precious memory. Still the capacity is sufficient to actually write programs. The total memory capacity seems to be 512 bytes, but some memory is needed for the RPN stack and internal registers / flags.

There is even a good thing about the limited space: Both the count of instructions as well as the maximum data for matrices (up to 64 numbers spread over a maximum of 5 matrices) can be grasped by the human mind.

Of course, indirect addressing is supported for programming purposes. Conditional branches and user flags can be used. Looping and nested subroutine calls are available. The user also has control over the memory allocation. But all those things are not getting in the way when one wants to quickly record a macro to perform a sequence of calculations for different values.


Now it gets a bit silly

The key to _ch_ange _s_ign is not labelled +/- or (-). Instead it's CHS. I find +/- and (-) a bit distracting as I consider it a mathematical operation at a first glance. CHS is much better! Similar, the key to _e_nter the _ex_ponent is not just E, it is EEX. When I see “E” I often wonder if they mean e, but used a capital letter, or is it somehow a variable called E? EEX on the other hand is clear.

No matter if I use the calculator while it is placed on the desk, or if I hold it in my hands, I can reach the keys I need to use with easy. The size seems to be right. Keys are not too big and there is enough space in-between to avoid the accidental press of a wrong key.

The display has only 10 digits and the calculator also uses just a 10 decimal digits for the mantissa. So there are no hidden digits. I considered this a disadvantage at first, but then noticed that this lets me check for rounding errors after each operation. The 15c doesn't look fancy, it has a clear design which just tells you "use me to compute the value you are looking for."


Back to sanity

Is the 15c perfect? No, but mainly because one cannot have two things which are mutually exclusive.

Of course I own other calculators, offering a fraction mode, a way more convenient usage of complex numbers, a more powerful equation solver and other things. But almost any calculation I need to be done can be performed on the 15c with fewer keystrokes compared to other models I own. The neat thing is: When I just need to divide two numbers, I still use the 15c, because simple calculations can be performed in an efficient way, too. That is why this addition to my calculators became the most frequently used machine, by far. The programmability also expands the usage, for example I can have my binary logarithm. Or VAT calculations.

According to Wikipedia, the original 15c was released in 1982. That means: 30 years ago. The technology available at that time obviously limited the functionality which could be implemented at a particular price point, so HP really needed to choose. The development was probably done by guys who design calculators to use those themselves. The result is a feat of engineering which can hardly be praised too much.

Even when I do some simple math for Diablo 3 item bonus calculations, I use the 15c. When I need to compute the difference of two intervals on a musical scale, I use the 15c, too. For more complex calculation I can quickly program this machine without learning a programming language as I just record a sequence of keystrokes.

This device delivers an experience which transcends the everyday calculator. Instead of having the feeling to operate a machine, I just perform a calculation.

The limited edition number of my device is 21856. Why isn't this calculator still in normal production?

****
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 24 2012 11:48 GMT
#2
This might be a good calculator to actually work with, however for school exercises, I prefer a calculator where you can see what you just calculated (to check for errors). And that is the problem for calculators nowadays, I think. The vast majority are made for children in school, considering that most of the people who could be using one of these in their work, already work on a computer in the first place. :-/
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
May 24 2012 13:00 GMT
#3
My old boss had one of these.

It's like a hipster calculator.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 13:50:18
May 24 2012 13:38 GMT
#4
On May 24 2012 20:48 JustPassingBy wrote:
This might be a good calculator to actually work with, however for school exercises, I prefer a calculator where you can see what you just calculated (to check for errors). And that is the problem for calculators nowadays, I think. The vast majority are made for children in school, considering that most of the people who could be using one of these in their work, already work on a computer in the first place. :-/

Since the 15c works in RPN mode, you see what you just calculated after each operation. Instead of entering 1 + 1 = you do it this way: 1 Enter 1 + (That is, first the operands, then the operation.)

Lets say you want to computer (2+3)*(4+5). You enter:

2 Enter 3 + 4 Enter 5 + *

No brackets, no operation priorities. It sounds complicated, but one gets used to it quickly. If also saves you keystrokes which makes both computing as well as programming quite efficient. After each operation you see the intermediate result so you can check for errors. You can swap X and Y registers and roll through X, Y, Z and T; the 15c also stores the last X register if you need to "undo" a wrong calculation. When you made a mistake you can instantly redo the operation, this time with the proper value.

I began to use RPN on another HP machine (which had a slightly different implementation) and didn't care about the stack behind it, I just computed some values. It looks strange but actual use is very straightforward.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
May 24 2012 13:53 GMT
#5
Out of curiosity, what do you actually use a calculator for (presumably at work)? I'm a grad student in math, and I don't see a point to owning a calculator beyond some weird sort of hipster cred, but you say you use it (and have for nearly two decades), so I'm curious what for.

If I need to calculate something simple, my phone has a basic scientific calculator built into it, and it's always in my pocket anyway. If I need to calculate something complicated, I can't imagine a situation where that would come up but I wouldn't be near a computer...
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 24 2012 13:56 GMT
#6
On May 24 2012 20:48 JustPassingBy wrote:
This might be a good calculator to actually work with, however for school exercises, I prefer a calculator where you can see what you just calculated (to check for errors). And that is the problem for calculators nowadays, I think. The vast majority are made for children in school, considering that most of the people who could be using one of these in their work, already work on a computer in the first place. :-/


Agreed. For the same price you can get a decent graphing calculator that allows you to do so much more than this thing. Check over your work, perform statistical calculation, converting to polar coordinates, even drawing when you get bored in study hall. I guess it's not technically a "pocket" calculator, but then again if size was a concern one could replicate all the function of this thing with a java app on a smart phone (which I'm sure someone has) so...
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 14:19:28
May 24 2012 14:15 GMT
#7
On May 24 2012 22:53 Iranon wrote:
Out of curiosity, what do you actually use a calculator for (presumably at work)? I'm a grad student in math, and I don't see a point to owning a calculator beyond some weird sort of hipster cred, but you say you use it (and have for nearly two decades), so I'm curious what for.

If I need to calculate something simple, my phone has a basic scientific calculator built into it, and it's always in my pocket anyway. If I need to calculate something complicated, I can't imagine a situation where that would come up but I wouldn't be near a computer...

I own this machine for some weeks only. I use pocket calculators more or less frequently since 1995 but never was truly happy. I got happier as I bought an HP-35s in 2009 (which was released in 2007) but that 35s is overloaded with functions and makes too much use of Shift for my taste.

The Windows calculator doesn't work in RPN mode. Even if I only want to see the scaling factor if I use a resolution below my monitor resolution in Xsplit for Video streaming, I want to get to the result fast.

Currently I take the 15c to work and back to home every day. Calculations at work are often simple. I work in the business of testing professionally overclocked hardware. If I want to see how many percent gain I have, I need to divide the new frequency by the default one. When I compare the price of hardware components, I have to include or exclude VAT depending on the source of the price.

At home I sometimes perform more complicated calculations with the use of logarithms, or I need to do a series of operations which I quickly can program a macro for (for example to calculate the monitor panel height using the diagonal and the aspect ratio as input.)
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
May 24 2012 16:09 GMT
#8
On May 24 2012 22:53 Iranon wrote:
Out of curiosity, what do you actually use a calculator for (presumably at work)? I'm a grad student in math, and I don't see a point to owning a calculator beyond some weird sort of hipster cred, but you say you use it (and have for nearly two decades), so I'm curious what for.

If I need to calculate something simple, my phone has a basic scientific calculator built into it, and it's always in my pocket anyway. If I need to calculate something complicated, I can't imagine a situation where that would come up but I wouldn't be near a computer...

I use a calculator at work all the time. It's faster than using my phone and it's more convenient than using the computer.
Moderator
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 18:18:30
May 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#9
Does it have a special key that plays a little melody?

+ Show Spoiler +

"See you space cowboy"
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
May 24 2012 19:11 GMT
#10
Maybe I'm having trouble getting the scale of this thing but how exactly is it better than a TI-83 (or 84 or 89 or whatever). Also the single line drives me crazy, I need to see what I put in
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 24 2012 19:39 GMT
#11
^ We don't talk about Texas Instruments calculators here, especially the 83...

O.O
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 22:39:08
May 24 2012 19:46 GMT
#12
On May 24 2012 22:56 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 20:48 JustPassingBy wrote:
This might be a good calculator to actually work with, however for school exercises, I prefer a calculator where you can see what you just calculated (to check for errors). And that is the problem for calculators nowadays, I think. The vast majority are made for children in school, considering that most of the people who could be using one of these in their work, already work on a computer in the first place. :-/


Agreed. For the same price you can get a decent graphing calculator that allows you to do so much more than this thing. Check over your work, perform statistical calculation, converting to polar coordinates, even drawing when you get bored in study hall. I guess it's not technically a "pocket" calculator, but then again if size was a concern one could replicate all the function of this thing with a java app on a smart phone (which I'm sure someone has) so...

I have a graphing calculator, but don't use it anymore. Too complicated to operate. It has way more statistic functions than the 15c and a multiline display. Once I programmed it to render the mandelbrot set in four colors (as red and blue are avaiable in addition to black and transparent.)

I bought it because I thought "WOW all those features", but later realized that don't need a computer replacement which is too big to fit in my pocket and too laborious to use. I did use the graphing calculator for 1-2 years during study though, but wasn't satisfied with the speed of my calculations.

On May 25 2012 04:11 n.DieJokes wrote:
Maybe I'm having trouble getting the scale of this thing but how exactly is it better than a TI-83 (or 84 or 89 or whatever). Also the single line drives me crazy, I need to see what I put in

The 15c is smaller in size and more efficient to use. The Ti-83 is a small handheld computer. The 15c is a scientific pocket calculator. It is put in a small case with the size of just 5.0" x 3.1".

The Ti-83 offers way more than I need. The 15c also offers more than I need but it doesn't get in my way when I don't need it.

The HP-35s (which I own, too) has two lines. As I bought it, I thought this would be nice. The more I used it, the more I got distracted by seeing two numbers at once.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
May 24 2012 20:27 GMT
#13
On May 25 2012 04:39 TheToast wrote:
^ We don't talk about Texas Instruments calculators here, especially the 83...

O.O

I was just about to make a TI joke...
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro24 Group B
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Afreeca ASL 8323
StarCastTV_EN212
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #124
Percival vs YoungYakovLIVE!
CranKy Ducklings66
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 199
ProTech119
SortOf 113
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 12785
Flash 5589
Bisu 4166
GuemChi 1764
BeSt 775
firebathero 562
EffOrt 334
Zeus 268
Pusan 266
Light 259
[ Show more ]
ZerO 219
Leta 214
actioN 208
Stork 204
HiyA 120
Rush 78
ToSsGirL 74
Killer 73
Mind 66
Sharp 56
PianO 49
Barracks 41
Nal_rA 25
Hm[arnc] 21
GoRush 21
Shinee 20
Bale 18
Terrorterran 14
yabsab 13
soO 11
Purpose 10
sorry 9
Noble 7
Snow 1
Dota 2
XcaliburYe267
BananaSlamJamma163
canceldota145
League of Legends
JimRising 340
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2104
shoxiejesuss656
byalli497
x6flipin245
Super Smash Bros
Westballz14
Other Games
singsing1929
ceh9673
Sick289
crisheroes227
Happy162
Livibee58
Trikslyr20
XBOCT7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick874
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 237
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream115
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH205
• StrangeGG 36
• LUISG 26
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
22h 18m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 18m
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
1d
Replay Cast
1d 13h
KCM Race Survival
1d 22h
The PondCast
1d 23h
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Platinum Heroes Events
4 days
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-23
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.