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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 07 2012 06:37 GMT
#1
I suppose one thing that is a mystery that was introduced to me by the Internet is lucid dreaming. I've always viewed dreaming as you taking a back seat in your mind for once and just watch it work. Then, I learned about lucid dreaming and I was in awe at the the potential of it and just the phenomena that you can explore the unknowns, and do the impossible.

I however, have not tried to lucid dream out of fear of sleep paralysis and the effects that it may bring about because I'm pretty scared of the supernatural, or rather, what my mind thinks of the supernatural. I imagine some pretty scary insane shit that will be at my bedside.

Last night, I think I had my first lucid dream. Maybe not a complete one, as even though I could control what I wanted to happen slightly, things were still happening without my will. If I were to estimate the length of the dream, I would say that it would be around 4 to 5 hours.

In this dream, I was in a world of massive skyscrapers and the sky was of a magnificent amber hue, but the Sun was missing, and so were the clouds. It's something like the place in the move Inception where Molly was trapped. In the beginning, I was a mere observer, but slowly I began to take control of the dream. Buildings were collapsing and wreaking havoc amongst the pedestrians, there however, was no blood. Only people trapped under rubble, desperately screaming for help. I'm afraid of myself now that I realise how morbid my thoughts are. So much screaming and pain. I can still hear the screaming right now, and it's amazing. It's amazing how I can keep a memory like this.

The next and final world I dreamed of was the most fascinating. It's probably fuelled by my amazement of outer space. I could breathe and had perfect control over my faculties. I was on holding on to a cerulean balloon, orbiting Earth. The Moon was behind me, the Sun not to far away. Holy hell it's just amazing. It made myself descend towards Earth while still holding on to the balloon, passing through the atmosphere was like a little roller-coaster ride, blurry. Past the atmosphere, I just slowly landed on a massive grass field, Mary Poppins style, except I was still holding on to the balloon.

Man, if lucid dreams were always like this I would definitely learn to lucid dream seriously. I've heard of people being able to dream entire lives (80~90 years) in just a normal night's of sleep. Thinking about all the things I can do, + Show Spoiler +
teenager's libido :D
it's just amazing! I just wonder if everything you dream of must be based on what you know. It must be, right? I think it's impossible to read a book you have not read in a dream, or watch a movie you have not watched.


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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 07 2012 06:46 GMT
#2
heh if i could lucid dream, i would do my hw in my sleep
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 07 2012 06:48 GMT
#3
On May 07 2012 15:46 Kenpachi wrote:
heh if i could lucid dream, i would do my hw in my sleep


Yeah! Which brings me to the points I've raised in the last paragraph. Can we study subjects and learn new things while lucid dreaming? If we could it would be pretty awesome if you could read like 10 books in your lucid dream or study the entire syllabus for the year.
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mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
May 07 2012 06:49 GMT
#4
i had a lucid dream a little over 10 years ago and i still remember it. it was really an incredible feeling. being around 8 at the time i dreamed i was a pokemon (wartortle or something) and i evolved into a blastoise. it was actually super fun and i want to lucid dream more often.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 07 2012 06:52 GMT
#5
On May 07 2012 15:49 Malstriks wrote:
i had a lucid dream a little over 10 years ago and i still remember it. it was really an incredible feeling. being around 8 at the time i dreamed i was a pokemon (wartortle or something) and i evolved into a blastoise. it was actually super fun and i want to lucid dream more often.


Yeah I guess lucid dreaming is a pretty awesome and fun experience if it's done correctly. I can just imagine living in Hoenn and just going about on the Pokemon adventure with your gf/wife/crush/w.e/ and then, riding on Lugia.
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Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 07:05:57
May 07 2012 07:05 GMT
#6
I have had a few lucid dreams since I quit smoking weed (22-23 days now). I actually need to go to sleep right now, but I will try and remember to edit this post and put everything that I remember from them. I find it pretty hard to actually control the dreams for very long before waking up. I guess it feels like I control them for about 10-15 minutes (yay dream time). Its pretty hard to put a number on that though since its hard to remember every little detail of the dreams, even if they are very vivid.
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Ikidomari
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia485 Posts
May 07 2012 07:26 GMT
#7
Lucid dreaming can be ridiculously fun, but don't think it's easy to control, and you will always dictate what happens
Don't think about turtles
you just thought about turtles, didn't you?
that's what it's like to lucid dream, your mind goes off on it's own, and isn't always thinking about what you want it to.
if you have a particularly strong bad memory, in a lucid dream, you can expect to relive different versions of it. so be careful.

sleep paralysis is also super shitty, imagine hallucinating something which you're ridiculously scared of, knowing you're awake when you see it, and being unable to move

p.s. Don't look in a mirror, in your dream, you won't like what you see

p.s.s. if anyone wants to know anything at all about lucid dreaming feel free to PM me, I have quite a bit of experience with it.
Just break the rules, and you see the truth.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 07 2012 07:32 GMT
#8
On May 07 2012 16:26 Justicejimzor wrote:
Lucid dreaming can be ridiculously fun, but don't think it's easy to control, and you will always dictate what happens
Don't think about turtles
you just thought about turtles, didn't you?
that's what it's like to lucid dream, your mind goes off on it's own, and isn't always thinking about what you want it to.
if you have a particularly strong bad memory, in a lucid dream, you can expect to relive different versions of it. so be careful.

sleep paralysis is also super shitty, imagine hallucinating something which you're ridiculously scared of, knowing you're awake when you see it, and being unable to move

p.s. Don't look in a mirror, in your dream, you won't like what you see

p.s.s. if anyone wants to know anything at all about lucid dreaming feel free to PM me, I have quite a bit of experience with it.


Man that just scared me.
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Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 08:05:58
May 07 2012 07:50 GMT
#9
Ah, I am always jealous of people who can dream. I have never woken up remembering a dream, even a second of it. I also know from other people that I don't move much while in sleep or make any noises.

Maybe when I get my first dream it will be that much more awesome because I will experience it for the first time.

edit: second thought made no sense at all.

edit 2: i didn't think about a turtle.
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
May 07 2012 07:55 GMT
#10
On May 07 2012 16:26 Justicejimzor wrote:
Lucid dreaming can be ridiculously fun, but don't think it's easy to control, and you will always dictate what happens
Don't think about turtles
you just thought about turtles, didn't you?
that's what it's like to lucid dream, your mind goes off on it's own, and isn't always thinking about what you want it to.
if you have a particularly strong bad memory, in a lucid dream, you can expect to relive different versions of it. so be careful.

sleep paralysis is also super shitty, imagine hallucinating something which you're ridiculously scared of, knowing you're awake when you see it, and being unable to move

p.s. Don't look in a mirror, in your dream, you won't like what you see

p.s.s. if anyone wants to know anything at all about lucid dreaming feel free to PM me, I have quite a bit of experience with it.

I didn't think about the turtle when you said turtle :/
I hate all this singing
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
May 07 2012 08:12 GMT
#11
Ha it happened to me only once, I was able to tell when i tried to turn of the lights and they didn't turn off. It like clicked that I was still dreaming and just went with it. Had a fcking amazing dream : ) Sadly I haven't gotten it again tt
Greed leads to just about all losses.
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
May 07 2012 08:42 GMT
#12
On May 07 2012 16:55 brachester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 16:26 Justicejimzor wrote:
Lucid dreaming can be ridiculously fun, but don't think it's easy to control, and you will always dictate what happens
Don't think about turtles
you just thought about turtles, didn't you?
that's what it's like to lucid dream, your mind goes off on it's own, and isn't always thinking about what you want it to.
if you have a particularly strong bad memory, in a lucid dream, you can expect to relive different versions of it. so be careful.

sleep paralysis is also super shitty, imagine hallucinating something which you're ridiculously scared of, knowing you're awake when you see it, and being unable to move

p.s. Don't look in a mirror, in your dream, you won't like what you see

p.s.s. if anyone wants to know anything at all about lucid dreaming feel free to PM me, I have quite a bit of experience with it.

I didn't think about the turtle when you said turtle :/


How could you not think about a turtle when you read turtle? Otherwise you didn't actually read what he said
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 07 2012 08:52 GMT
#13
So can people actually prove there's such thing as lucid dreaming or is that another faux blind belief.
I always find it amusing when people go all logic warring against religion but when it comes to stuff like that, ey lets be gullible and willing now!
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Knap4life
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Slovenia333 Posts
May 07 2012 08:57 GMT
#14
I hate dreams , i wish i had no dreams. Seriously , i god damn hate them. Every night when i go to bed and sleep i dream about the most horrific things.My friends turning against me , trying to put me in jain , kill me , strangers trying to burn my house down. demons trying to take me to hell , Dinosaurs eating my family , Murderers hidding in my house and the list goes on.

Another thing i hate is when i jump off a cliff , building or any high object i get that gravity pressure and i wake up all sweaty , the force is actually so strong that it have to sit up and i am like "fuck".
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 09:11:05
May 07 2012 09:10 GMT
#15
On May 07 2012 17:52 Steveling wrote:
So can people actually prove there's such thing as lucid dreaming or is that another faux blind belief.
I always find it amusing when people go all logic warring against religion but when it comes to stuff like that, ey lets be gullible and willing now!


Are you only saying this because you haven't had any lucid dreams before? Isn't it just post hoc ergo propter hoc?


On May 07 2012 17:57 Knap4life wrote:
I hate dreams , i wish i had no dreams. Seriously , i god damn hate them. Every night when i go to bed and sleep i dream about the most horrific things.My friends turning against me , trying to put me in jain , kill me , strangers trying to burn my house down. demons trying to take me to hell , Dinosaurs eating my family , Murderers hidding in my house and the list goes on.

Another thing i hate is when i jump off a cliff , building or any high object i get that gravity pressure and i wake up all sweaty , the force is actually so strong that it have to sit up and i am like "fuck".


:|

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Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
May 07 2012 09:30 GMT
#16
On May 07 2012 17:52 Steveling wrote:
So can people actually prove there's such thing as lucid dreaming or is that another faux blind belief.
I always find it amusing when people go all logic warring against religion but when it comes to stuff like that, ey lets be gullible and willing now!


Excuse me, but what the fuck are you talking about? You have a hard time believing the people can be conscious while dreaming? Is that some hokus-pokus magic to you? If you wanna be a smart ass, you should at least know what you are talking about. Do MRI/NMRI/CAT scans of people and compare the brain activity between people that are awake, regular sleepers and lucid dreamers - quick way to prove or disprove that.

On May 07 2012 17:57 Knap4life wrote:
I hate dreams , i wish i had no dreams. Seriously , i god damn hate them. Every night when i go to bed and sleep i dream about the most horrific things.My friends turning against me , trying to put me in jain , kill me , strangers trying to burn my house down. demons trying to take me to hell , Dinosaurs eating my family , Murderers hidding in my house and the list goes on.

Another thing i hate is when i jump off a cliff , building or any high object i get that gravity pressure and i wake up all sweaty , the force is actually so strong that it have to sit up and i am like "fuck".


Thats messed up, if you only have those dreams i feel bad for you. However, it is usual that people remember those high tensity dreams due to the stress that induces. You can have the time of your life, but you dont end up remembering any of it when you wake up. The brain can be a bastard sometimes


Back to lucid dreams. I used do that a lot when i was 15-18 (hard time getting "high" by other means). I had a great time. I peaked with being God (or at least omnipotent) and built a world in similar to minecraft) in the sky and added what ever i felt like. I could 3d rotation of the whole thing and the spires and tall ancient/magical looking buildings was beatiful. Amazing experience. But i quit because i slept only 5-6 hours a day (school/friends/gaming) and you really need some time off. After you do it for an extended period of time you (or at least I) felt like i never got a break or pause from my own consciousness and there seemed to be no clear division between the days. I still retain some of the skill (7-9) years later, because i can (sometimes) rewind my dreams (like a VHS tape) and go down a different path if i dont like how the dream turns out.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 07 2012 09:40 GMT
#17
Aphasie,

Would you mind explaining a bit about how you learnt to lucid dream, and your experiences while in the process of learning? Were there any scary stuff, sleep paralysis and whatnot?
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 07 2012 09:45 GMT
#18
I'm curious now, what happens when you look in the mirror in a dream?
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 07 2012 09:55 GMT
#19
On May 07 2012 18:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm curious now, what happens when you look in the mirror in a dream?

you see yourself inside out. the answer to your next question is yes.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 10:12:45
May 07 2012 10:12 GMT
#20
Penis. You mean the penis right?
Also, that would make it seem like our dreams are governed by a universal law of dreams.
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Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 11:31:37
May 07 2012 10:38 GMT
#21
On May 07 2012 18:40 Azera wrote:
Aphasie,

Would you mind explaining a bit about how you learnt to lucid dream, and your experiences while in the process of learning? Were there any scary stuff, sleep paralysis and whatnot?


I just did the stuff i read online, i bet you can find it anywhere. But it basically is a three step program:

1. Remembering your dreams. You always remember your dreams better when youre in the process of rejoining the waking life. So the first couple of minutes you wake up, dont get out bed, but try to remember what you dreamt. The more details the better. I also recommend keeping a dream journal. Its a diary of all your dream and helps you remember. At first you'll probably have a hard time remembering most of your last dream (before you woke) but with practice you can remember 5-6 dreams. Once you can remember most of your dreams vividly, the hard part is over.

2. Realizing youre dreaming. There are some techniques but i dont remember any. Looking at yourself in the mirror is one i guess. It came naturally to me. Because through the training you try to remember dreams as youre dreaming them, so you (or at least I) was able to say "Hey because im trying to remember this, its probably a dream".

3. Then you start experimenting, change things a little by little. For instance follow the flow of the dream, and because you should be self-aware at this point. If youre about to walk through a door, stop, picture in your minds eye what the room should look like, and when you go through the door (eventually) it will look like just that. Start out by changing small things, incrementing over time. After a while you will get better at it. Full creative consciousness (like the city in sky) was a rarity for me (and took away some of the adventure). I liked being placed within a context and changing what i dont like. Your sub-consciousness is more imaginetive (or novel) than the regular consciousness (my experience at least) so going with the flow can be much nicer.

About bad experiences: Yes I have had sleep paralysis. Its in the nature of the game, it makes sense because youre struggling to get conscious and havent yet learned the skills to decide what to do. It is frightening, sure, but a lot of cool things are. And also (in the start) when you try to remember dreams, the bad part is that you also remember nightmares. I remember one time i was forced at gunpoint to do a snuff movie. And that girl... she... fuck. It was just outright disgusting. For ref. ive never seen anything like that, but imagine something like the guy and the prostitute in Se7en (movie) or American psycho (the book) and take it from there. Ive never forgotten that dream. But its hazards of the game and for me the reward was worth the risk. It like doing drugs, you do it out of your own volition. Its worth it from my experience.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 07 2012 10:42 GMT
#22
Thanks for the reply!

I guess I'm in a dilemma now, to try or not to try? I'm really scared about seeing those frightening supernatural things and I have them locked up in a pretty deep place in my brain and I can't imagine what I'll do if I unlock that cage. I'll probably scream, shout, and piss myself.
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Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 11:29:18
May 07 2012 11:26 GMT
#23
Well, the good thing is that its only a dream (so to speak). If things get too intense its a good chance you'll wake up. Just fiddle around a couple of minutes 'till its out of your system. Really theres nothing to be afraid of, no permanent damage will happen, think about it like a more intense and free version of your own imagination.

Go for it!
Ikidomari
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia485 Posts
May 07 2012 11:39 GMT
#24
Actually, when you see yourself in a mirror in your dream (While lucid) you're supposed to see what you, actually deep down, think of yourself
I haven't tried it because:
a) I don't like lucid dreaming due to sleep paralysis
and b) when i do lucid dream, i either don't think to try, or am too scared
So i can't confirm if it's true, but I've heard from a few people that it is.
Just break the rules, and you see the truth.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 07 2012 11:52 GMT
#25
I'm too scared of ghosts sorry.
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Flyingsnow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Japan208 Posts
May 07 2012 16:20 GMT
#26
ahh i used to lucid dream. It was so fun. It usually had near complete creative control over it too. I would always someone figure out it was a dream (usually ground was too bouncy) and then begin to fly. I'd be in a white room them and anything I thought of would be possible though sometimes unexpected things did happen like walking through a liquid wall.

Then one day they stopped and I have trouble having them now. I had a dream where the dream shattered and I fell for a long time down a dark tunnel. Now whenever I try to lucid dream I just see black and hear thunder or static. If I realize its a dream normally then I just end up waking up.

I did have a crazy multilayer dream though. 3-4 times waking up and still dreaming. Really made me question whether everything was real for a while.
Mattson
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Canada188 Posts
May 08 2012 00:28 GMT
#27
Alright... some things to clear up.

First of all, a lucid dream isn't just something that comes at you for you to take in. You need to be alert. The second you hang back to enjoy the sights is the second the dream takes over and your lucidity is gone.

You need your wits about you to be successful in a lucid dream. At first, you're going to be lucid for a very short period of time... you're probably going to wake up upon realizing you're lucid dreaming from the adrenaline that rushes through your body that first time. The biggest obstacle to successful lucid dreaming is you... and once you overcome that obstacle you soon realize you don't need to lucid dream anymore... but I'm getting ahead of myself so I'll digress.

Instead of giving you a full walk through I'll tell you what you need to work on first. Your dream recall, it is necessary to becoming proficient at lucid dreaming. Buy a journal and use it religiously.

Secondly, your dreams... they're awesome right? Unfortunately the dreams themselves are only awesome for you. We lack your frame of reference and we can never have YOUR frame of reference. Even if you had a mastery of language you can never sufficiently 'recreate' a dream with words... so cut that shit out. If anything, instead try to focus on your emotions during the dream... metaphor and analogy works well here.

Can you learn in your lucid dreams? Well not in a traditional sense. You can't practice math... I mean you can if you want to but nothing meaningful can be gained from it. You can however learn about your self... and please pardon my description in advance as it may sound vague and rather New Age/Hippy-ish.

You can overcome your fears in a dream. What ever makes you tick you can overcome. Do you get nervous when asking a girl out? You can sort that shit through lucid dreams. It's just impossible to predict what form your fears will manifest as whilst dreaming... but you can beat them.

You'll learn that all your fears come from ignorance... all of them. You learn that in order to control your fears you have to come to terms with your ignorance... I wish I could more thoroughly explain this as it's the most important part.

Lucid dreaming taught me nothing about the universe except where I fit in... and from there you can evaluate your worth to the universe.

In the end, you're only going to learn about yourself through lucid dreaming. The ultimate goal is to get fully acquainted with yourself so you can kill that person and start over.

Cynicism isn't wisdom; it's a lazy way to say that you've been burned. Seems if anything you'd be less certain after everything you ever learned.
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
May 08 2012 01:17 GMT
#28
On May 07 2012 16:26 Justicejimzor wrote:

p.s. Don't look in a mirror, in your dream, you won't like what you see


Holy balls, that gave me hardcore chills. :O
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Mattson
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Canada188 Posts
May 08 2012 01:37 GMT
#29
On May 08 2012 10:17 Dalguno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 16:26 Justicejimzor wrote:

p.s. Don't look in a mirror, in your dream, you won't like what you see


Holy balls, that gave me hardcore chills. :O


It can be scary but if you're lucid it is your duty to confront it.

Jump through the mirror and engage it in what ever way your brain deems necessary.

Mirrors actually act as portals to completely new dreamscapes... I actually find it fascinating how many different people encounter this same mechanic. It's like the most obvious common denominator I've run into in my time learning about lucid dreaming.

It is such a mind fuck... imagine stargate. (sorry for incepting you)
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summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
May 26 2012 08:37 GMT
#30
i just had my first lucid dream ever, awesome

ive been keeping a dream diary for around three months. yesterday evening i transferred a month's worth of dreams into my computer dream log, so i guess thats what might have triggered it

i dreamed i was lying in bed in our old house, and then it occured weird to me that im home, since in reality im still in india and i could remember that my flight is only in two days. i tried to rationalize this by thinking i would go back to india and then take a flight back in two days, but that seemed weird and wasteful. thats when i started to ask myself wether i was dreaming or not.

i was pretty convinced i wasnt dreaming since everything looked so real but thankfully i did a reality check, looking at a digital clock next to the bed. not only was i unable to add up the numbers on the clock, but also they kept shifting, it looked almost exactly as in the movie waking life. thats when i realized i was dreaming and the dream got lucid.

first i closed my eyes in the dream and tried to imagine what i wanted to do, but then i just opened my eyes and willed a change in scenery and it totally worked. the first thing i did was have sex obviously , then i flew through some awesome landscapes and was impressed by how high-res everything looked, i guess when your not limited by your eyes you can see sharper, the dream got less lucid towards the end and i had trouble thinking up things i wanted to do, towards the end i knew that i could wake up whenever i wanted and i was about to wake up anyways

awesome awesome, after reading about lucid dreams and trying techniques for months i finally got one, i just hope it wasnt a singular event
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 26 2012 09:11 GMT
#31
On May 26 2012 17:37 summerloud wrote:
i just had my first lucid dream ever, awesome

ive been keeping a dream diary for around three months. yesterday evening i transferred a month's worth of dreams into my computer dream log, so i guess thats what might have triggered it

i dreamed i was lying in bed in our old house, and then it occured weird to me that im home, since in reality im still in india and i could remember that my flight is only in two days. i tried to rationalize this by thinking i would go back to india and then take a flight back in two days, but that seemed weird and wasteful. thats when i started to ask myself wether i was dreaming or not.

i was pretty convinced i wasnt dreaming since everything looked so real but thankfully i did a reality check, looking at a digital clock next to the bed. not only was i unable to add up the numbers on the clock, but also they kept shifting, it looked almost exactly as in the movie waking life. thats when i realized i was dreaming and the dream got lucid.

first i closed my eyes in the dream and tried to imagine what i wanted to do, but then i just opened my eyes and willed a change in scenery and it totally worked. the first thing i did was have sex obviously , then i flew through some awesome landscapes and was impressed by how high-res everything looked, i guess when your not limited by your eyes you can see sharper, the dream got less lucid towards the end and i had trouble thinking up things i wanted to do, towards the end i knew that i could wake up whenever i wanted and i was about to wake up anyways

awesome awesome, after reading about lucid dreams and trying techniques for months i finally got one, i just hope it wasnt a singular event


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BabyToss!
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic588 Posts
May 26 2012 09:54 GMT
#32
I used to have these lucid dreams quite often few years back, but they seem to disappeared... maybe my frequent depressions have something to do with that? Really wondering about that...
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 11:01:45
May 26 2012 10:28 GMT
#33
I had a sleep paralysis this morning, I induced it voluntarily. For me, SP is not horrifying, I don't have hallucinations and shit. Well, then I did a reality check and I tried to stand up with my dream body several times and walk around. But this is incredibly hard, much harder than a normal lucid dream, but if I can master it, then it will be much more rewarding.

And by the way, mirrors are not scary, you will see there what you expect to see. If you are afraid of mirrors, then you will see horrifying things.
The first time I looked into a mirror in a lucid dream, my mirror image was totally normal, I even looked a bit better than usual.

On May 26 2012 18:54 BabyToss! wrote:
I used to have these lucid dreams quite often few years back, but they seem to disappeared... maybe my frequent depressions have something to do with that? Really wondering about that...

Yes, stress and depression (no motivation) kill lucid dreams.

tl; dr: about Sleep paralysis: if you don't expect horror, horror will not come. All placebo.

Ok, maybe I further explanation: There are two big "schools" of lucid dreaming: DILD (becoming aware in a dream that you are dreaming) and WILD (going directly from awake into a lucid dream). The latter is the one that uses Sleep paralysis as means, and people who try to WILD become desperate to achieve SP, because SP also usually means that one has become successfull with the WILD attempt. Lucid Dreaming forums are full of threads like "How do I induce Sleep Paralysis?".
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
May 26 2012 12:43 GMT
#34
On May 26 2012 19:28 blubbdavid wrote:
I had a sleep paralysis this morning, I induced it voluntarily. For me, SP is not horrifying, I don't have hallucinations and shit. Well, then I did a reality check and I tried to stand up with my dream body several times and walk around. But this is incredibly hard, much harder than a normal lucid dream, but if I can master it, then it will be much more rewarding.

And by the way, mirrors are not scary, you will see there what you expect to see. If you are afraid of mirrors, then you will see horrifying things.
The first time I looked into a mirror in a lucid dream, my mirror image was totally normal, I even looked a bit better than usual.

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On May 26 2012 18:54 BabyToss! wrote:
I used to have these lucid dreams quite often few years back, but they seem to disappeared... maybe my frequent depressions have something to do with that? Really wondering about that...

Yes, stress and depression (no motivation) kill lucid dreams.

tl; dr: about Sleep paralysis: if you don't expect horror, horror will not come. All placebo.

Ok, maybe I further explanation: There are two big "schools" of lucid dreaming: DILD (becoming aware in a dream that you are dreaming) and WILD (going directly from awake into a lucid dream). The latter is the one that uses Sleep paralysis as means, and people who try to WILD become desperate to achieve SP, because SP also usually means that one has become successfull with the WILD attempt. Lucid Dreaming forums are full of threads like "How do I induce Sleep Paralysis?".


Man, it takes ages to exercise WILD, and the 1st and only time i was getting into sleep paralysis, i breathed a little too consciously and it stopped. It really is freakin hard, and i quit trying since then. But every time i read about LD, i feel i need to try more.

I wish i had some sort of drug able to induce them. I've read about calea zacatechichi, but its legal status isn't clear and i don't wanna order it, it might even not work cause the shop sells a wrong type.
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
May 26 2012 14:43 GMT
#35
I used to lucid dream a lot, now I just have sleep paralysis about 3-4 times a week, it kind of sucks . This morning I woke up with sleep paralysis, closed mouth, and filled nose, wasn't pleasant to say the least, no worries though, not breathing for a while was enough to stop the sleep paralysis.

Also, to answer this:
On May 07 2012 17:52 Steveling wrote:
So can people actually prove there's such thing as lucid dreaming or is that another faux blind belief.
I always find it amusing when people go all logic warring against religion but when it comes to stuff like that, ey lets be gullible and willing now!

There is nothing supernatural about lucid dreaming, I'm a materialist and my lucid dreaming by no way rubs that belief, I'm unsure why there even should be considered to be something supernatural about lucid dreaming. Of course some claim they can see the future and so in dreams togheter with their claims of controlling themselves in their dreams and being aware of their dreaming (the two last being what is lucid dreaming), but that the first one is supernatural and most likely untrue doesn't make the last two claims supernatural at all.
ins(out)side
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
220 Posts
May 26 2012 21:47 GMT
#36
I absolutely LOVE lucid dreaming! When you can do anything you want you'd be surprised how amazing the experience can be even if you know its not real. Having the powers of a Dragon Ball character and being able to take control of airplanes and crash them into battle ships on the water is by far better than any video game. In fact, now that I think of it, most of my lucid dreams revolve around video game type themes. I guess the 23 hours a day spent playing PC and console games is taking its toll on my subconscious. Whatever, my dreams kick a whole lot of ass and so do I while I'm in them.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 22:56:27
May 26 2012 22:47 GMT
#37
I used to lucid dream almost everyday when i was younger and now i rarely do it but when i do lucid dreaming i fucking absolutley love it and cherish it, i hate getting sleep paralyse i used to lay down for 45min once was so fucking scary

Most people nowdays hear of lucid dreaming and think OMFG that dream i had yesterday was tottaly lucid dreaming!
Some of my friends think they do it all the time they got no clue what this is actually about,

What's weird when i lucid dream is that at some point of my dream I allways see a classmate a female or a guy somewhere in my dream doing nothing but walking and not talking, it's like it will allways be there and i cant do anything about it, i somehow think im doing it unconsciously to make sure that i am infact lucid dreaming or not, then my subconcious sure is a smart fella
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