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AwfulPlayer
Profile Joined August 2010
249 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 22:06:09
April 18 2012 22:05 GMT
#41
i'm using vlc with screen capture recorder as directshow source for streaming (& ffmpeg to translate the rtsp into rtmp for own3d, but that should not be relevant for your tests).
it does not have the advantages of scene switching & such, but i'm not noticing any lag (i7-2600 & 560-ti). maybe an alternative test candidate for your analysis ?
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
April 19 2012 11:06 GMT
#42
Interesting. I'd be interested in reading something similar exploring more "pure hardware" style streaming - possibly splitting video out from one computer into a capture card on a second computer that does the conversion & streaming.

But then I've got 4 computers sitting around, and only use one of them. (3 of them cannot play SC2.)
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Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
April 19 2012 12:12 GMT
#43
Was curious if you could maybe run some tests on the gamesource function for streaming DOTA2? I was considering getting a license for xsplit to get the gamesource function but im a little worried after seeing the results here.
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Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
April 19 2012 12:21 GMT
#44
Dxtory is great. It's actually manageable to stream Dota with Dxtory + Xsplit on my AMD cpu. Also you guys might find this exciting. I read this on Reddit a few days ago from the AMA:

Why is dxtory superior to xsplits game source capture when it comes to dropped in-game fps performance?



[–]MSgtGunny[S] 6 points 4 days ago*

On the whole it tends to be better (although we have seen some cases where it caused a higher frame drop) than game source. Why I don't really know. What i do know is that the 64 bit version of game source will be part of version 1.1 which is penciled in for May and we are always optimizing it to try to reduce fps drop.

UmbraaeternuS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile476 Posts
April 19 2012 15:21 GMT
#45
DXtory is absolutely terrific. Improves framerate so much and lets you get rid of that pesky frame lag.
IMHO if you're serious about streaming quality/gameplay, it's a MUST; 50$ invested on streaming isn't that much for what you get.
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Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
April 19 2012 21:57 GMT
#46
I dont know how you guys manage to get better fps with dxtory. You sure you guys clicking add region and clicking the sc2 window and not using game source or dragging a region manually ? Xsplit gives me 40fps more than dxtory.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 20 2012 08:28 GMT
#47
Have anybody tried DXtory with LoL streaming?
Rainbow Cuddles
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States486 Posts
April 20 2012 08:52 GMT
#48
Just wanted to say thanks for making this post it clears up a lot of confusion for me about the different methods. Response issues are fixed now, all thanks to you.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
April 20 2012 09:23 GMT
#49
On April 20 2012 06:57 Avean wrote:
I dont know how you guys manage to get better fps with dxtory. You sure you guys clicking add region and clicking the sc2 window and not using game source or dragging a region manually ? Xsplit gives me 40fps more than dxtory.


I'm typically just clicking on my desktop, and it adds the 1366x768 region as "Screen Region". Are you using that or the Sc2.exe process?
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Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
April 20 2012 15:15 GMT
#50
Yeah it still adds as a region, but still xsplit is so much faster than dxtory. Must be CPU related or something. (i7-960)
yzzdups
Profile Joined September 2011
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 13:06:14
April 22 2012 13:00 GMT
#51
I have a question for R1CH because no one seems to know what would be causing my issue with Dxtory and Xsplit. I can capture video with Dxtory, and it works great. If I use direct show output to xsplit, and stream, it appears smooth in the xsplit window. The stream, however, seems to be dropping frames like crazy. This is with Battlefield 3. I don't bother using Dxtory with SC2 because I like to show my desktop. With BF3, screen capture lags way too much, so I'm trying Dxtory. Do you have any idea why the game would run fine, the xsplit preview would look ok, but the stream would lag when using Dxtory? I only have the problem with Dxtory. I have probably tried all combinations of settings between xsplit and dxtory without fixing it.

EDIT: To be more specific about the lag on stream, it's not a skip here and there. It's almost as if I'm broadcasting at a much lower frame rate than I am. I'm only resorting to asking because I can't think of any other settings to change. I've been over the settings off and on for a month or two now. Some settings change severity of the problem, but noting fixes it.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
April 22 2012 16:28 GMT
#52
Frame drops are caused by excessive CPU usage or poor network conditions. Try a different ingest server.
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khanan
Profile Joined July 2011
47 Posts
April 30 2012 16:55 GMT
#53
Sorry, but that FFMPEG stuff sounded interesting. Would it be possible to go from DXTory -> FFMPEG(h264) -> Own3d/Twitch?
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