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BotD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States136 Posts
April 05 2012 11:38 GMT
#1
I don't know, my title probably has been done a million times over, I'm sure other people have addressed this issue in the past. I don't even know how to fairly apporach it. I'll just say this - STOP BITCHING AT THE FIRST GUY TO MAKE A MISTAKE. IN ANY GAME. EVER. Hi, I play Ghost in Squadron TD. On occasion I expect to leak and that's okay. When you shit yourself and make the entire team turn on me, I no longer want to play with you, I just want to sabotage everything you're doing and make you lose. Hope you don't mind!

Oh, you do? Well, then maybe next time you decide to be a total fucking dickshit towards the guy that had to deal with 3 marines and a roach on round 3, you'll think twice and not call him names.

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BotD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States136 Posts
April 05 2012 11:40 GMT
#2
Buhh, this wasn't supposed to be posted in blogs, hoped to be gone before anyone around for a call
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Wortie
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands212 Posts
April 05 2012 12:11 GMT
#3
Reminds me of the time I was experimenting in some other mod. Everyone was getting mad, only in the end I had the most efficient army to took on a wave. And the others had things like 4 collosus and stuff. Anyway, don't know what you so mad about. It seems to me that sabotaging their efforts makes you just as mature as your teammates who bm you.
TheArtOfFugue
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada187 Posts
April 05 2012 13:05 GMT
#4
Your behavior is even more condemnable and childish than the guy who pointed out your mistake in the first place.

I know when I play dota 2 and there's a feeder on the team, I cannot help myself pointing out what he's doing wrong ( no wards, bad item choices, bad positioning ). It's actually constructive criticism, if your not willing to listen and learn from your mistakes from someone who knows his stuff and take it as a personal affront , you will not get better and just get more frustrated.

74% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
April 05 2012 13:23 GMT
#5
On April 05 2012 22:05 TheArtOfFugue wrote:
Your behavior is even more condemnable and childish than the guy who pointed out your mistake in the first place.

I know when I play dota 2 and there's a feeder on the team, I cannot help myself pointing out what he's doing wrong ( no wards, bad item choices, bad positioning ). It's actually constructive criticism, if your not willing to listen and learn from your mistakes from someone who knows his stuff and take it as a personal affront , you will not get better and just get more frustrated.



Constructive criticism in Dota is "fuck we have a noob."
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
AegonC
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
April 05 2012 13:24 GMT
#6
Lol, it's squadron TD: a meaningless game inside of a slightly more meaningful but altogether meaningless game. Calm. Down.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10960 Posts
April 05 2012 13:36 GMT
#7
From reading your blog i only get that every guy that BM's you seems to have the right idea of how to deal with you.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28900 Posts
April 05 2012 13:37 GMT
#8
I don't think I've ever seen someone who "gave constructive criticism without being prompted to do so" who was actually "giving constructive criticism". I mean, it might've been the intention, but if you're not asked for help, don't offer it. it'll almost always be considered something else, be it whining, bm, or whatever, and the advice you give will almost never be heeded. if anything, talk about strategy or whatever before something is supposed to be done, and don't complain about something not being done after something was not being done.

I think intentionally sabotaging after some guy is being a fucktard is perfectly fine. In fact, I think following him around and just ruining every game he joins is awesome. but only if it's a 2v2 game - if there are more people then you'd end up punishing the others as well, and then it's not cool.
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Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
April 05 2012 15:36 GMT
#9
I would have done the same thing
If people are dicks in a pointless game because you're losing it then it is really tempting to just really fuck up stuff
But then again that is the nature of UMS. Usually some of the players have played the map ilke 100 times and are only really interested in the end game. When the noobies fuck up a bit early they freak since that means they just wasted 15 minutes and have to start over.

I usually try to give out advice about best practice strategies when i see that someone does not know how to play good enough to succeed.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
April 05 2012 16:38 GMT
#10
BM exists everywhere but if you sabotage then you're just as low as them. Just realize that there are more passionate people than you.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
April 05 2012 16:44 GMT
#11
I don't know what to think on one hand their is liquid`drone, and on the other there is TheArtofFugue. I guess it depends on how bad the BM is.
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