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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37065 Posts
March 02 2012 22:21 GMT
#121
Let's see dat immortal! 5/5
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
March 03 2012 11:59 GMT
#122
Those sculptures are amazing. Keep up the good work!
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sirkyan
Profile Joined July 2010
211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 12:50:24
March 03 2012 12:49 GMT
#123
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 01 2012 07:17 DanielHetberg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 06:39 sirkyan wrote:
As many others I am curious about the cost of something of this caliber.

I'm not looking to buy as you've explained you're not looking to sell, but could you give an estimated price to something of this detail/workload/materials? (or other variables that might be a factor). I'm really curious.

It all comes down to "how much do I want/need to earn per hour (and am I paying my taxes?)". From start to end, I think I spent about 20 hours on the baneling, about 100 or so on the ultralisk. In my professional life, I shoot for 25 euros/hour before taxes (which - when combined with social security payments - are fairly high in germany). Most professional artists get much less (let's not use the word "earn" in this context) but probably at least half of that. At 12.50 an hour, an ultralisk clocks in at 1250,- (about $1700), a baneling might go for $350. Raw materials are negligible in comparison, since stones are mostly dirt cheap. Including tool wear and tear might add a bit to the total cost, but not much.

Not sure about this, but pros might actually take _longer_ than me in terms of hours, because even though they're pros and better and faster at what they do, sculpting stones is physical work. I'm not sure you can do that for eight hours straight and maintain the speed and focus I can when doing two or three hours at a time, with plenty of rest in between.

This boils down to: Stone originals are prohibitively expensive (in my opinion).

One time-honored alternative is to make casts of the original. It's additional effort to create the mold, but you end up with something around 20 copies of your original. There are tons of materials to choose from, I'm going for something close to the original material and bought some (allegedly) high quality gypsum powder. I have read a book detailing the process, and in theory it's pretty straightforward, but I can't tell you how long it takes to create the mold, and how much time a casting takes (including finishing touches etc). If I was doing this professionally, one of my casts would go for (cost of original + cost of creating the mold) divided by (number of successful casts) + (material and time cost per cast).

For the baneling, a mold should be actually quite straightforward, with two parts and not much silicone material required - let's say a couple of hours, and the time effort for doing the casts (mixing material, pouring, removing air bubbles, de-casting, finishing) might come out to one(?) hour per cast, so one (numbered and signed!) cast might go for around $35. If I'm assuming I'm not able to sell the equivalent of 100% of my working time, as most craftsmen rightly assume, I'd mark that up to around $50. For the ultralisk, making the mold would probably be more time-consuming (10 hours?) but less so in relative terms (since it took 100 hours to make it). If I'm not totally off, a final figure for an ultra cast would be around $250.

Pros would further reduce the cost per cast by not making the original from stone, but rather from polymer clay (sculpey) which is way faster to work with, if you know what you're doing.

So there you go. Hand-crafting anything takes time, and if you pay the maker at least somewhat decently, it's accordingly expensive. Which is the reason why we typically played with mass-produced plastic barbie dolls or action figures as children. Or why mostly every big brand name you can think of exploits people in low-wage countries in order to provide us with cheap goods.



Thank you so, so much for answering.

Yes, it is expensive, but looking at the result, if I had the coin to spare and you were looking to sell, it's definitely worth it. It looks amazing!
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
March 03 2012 20:05 GMT
#124
So godlike. Keep up the great work!
niuage
Profile Joined October 2011
United States175 Posts
March 03 2012 21:23 GMT
#125
Amazing work. I think I'd pay hundred of dollars for this awesome Ultra made of real stone <3
Your post on the pricing was really interesting.
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TheOnlyNurSo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany50 Posts
March 04 2012 10:27 GMT
#126
Amazing project.
I love it when people are doing such creative things with the game
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 04 2012 10:41 GMT
#127
6/5
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Messi
Profile Joined September 2011
United States212 Posts
March 04 2012 15:11 GMT
#128
omg what the heck thats sso cooooooooool
good job!
TAAF
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland226 Posts
March 05 2012 10:58 GMT
#129
That is so good! 5/5 ofc
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Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
March 06 2012 02:00 GMT
#130
Wow fantastic work man, if you're thinking of good ways to part with the sculptures you can always do a charity auction, or something of a charitable nature, you'd probably be able to obtain express permission in those circumstances.
MaxFatality
Profile Joined November 2010
United States21 Posts
March 06 2012 02:41 GMT
#131
Amazing stuff! Can't wait to see more! :D
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PsyChoRo
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania85 Posts
March 06 2012 14:43 GMT
#132
so cool, great job !
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
March 06 2012 16:36 GMT
#133
Very Very kool. The immortal is going to look ssick. I hope you do a dark templar next in blue/green stone, maybe with a mix of amethyst or something for the blade. A+
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Cowpieguy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States97 Posts
March 06 2012 19:59 GMT
#134
On March 01 2012 00:15 Trolle wrote:
Next up, destructible rocks?

^Lol

Congrats on the job! And these are really freaking cool. Can't wait to see the next one. If you are able to make some molds, would you consider selling some?
BioVolt
Profile Joined October 2011
Portugal6 Posts
March 07 2012 06:01 GMT
#135
Awesome work
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 07 2012 16:05 GMT
#136
Wow very impressive. Going to check out other blogs now. Please keep it up
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Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
March 08 2012 18:30 GMT
#137
Wow, really nice, perfection itself 5/5. Are you a proffesional sculptor or something?
Korste
Profile Joined August 2011
United States64 Posts
March 08 2012 22:25 GMT
#138
cant wait to see the immo

baneling look sick !

terran one next ?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 08 2012 23:39 GMT
#139
Some people are mad skilled. I don't think I would have any fingers left after trying to make that.

5/5 so nice.
I had a good night of sleep.
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
March 09 2012 09:02 GMT
#140
Ice Green DT gogog!

gorgeous, as always, keep being awesome!
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