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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 27 2012 09:02 GMT
#1
Hi, it's like in the title. I tried nicotine plasters but they stopped working after 4-5 days and I wanted to smoke even while wearing them. Should I try 2 plasters at a time or what?

Smoking makes feel sick, I sometimes even throw up after a cigarette depending on what I ate or drunk. I cough badly after each cigarette. I used to be able to run up stairs for several floors but now I am losing my breath and feel weakened.

I am currently smoking 15 - 20 cigarettes a day. When I'm laddering I can smoke as often as after each game played which means a cigarette every 15-25 minutes.
It's strong ones but menthol also.

I quit smoking 2 times for a total of 13 months but each time I was sick enough not to smoke.
1 time running helped but I am too lazy to start really doing that now.

I am really looking forward to your help, I could really use more money - it's a few weeks abroad trip a year for the amount of money I spend on cigarettes. When I'm laddering it also annoys me that I have to lose my time instead jumping right in into the next game.

Thank you for your help in advance!

*
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jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 09:17:27
February 27 2012 09:14 GMT
#2
you need consider to stop playing sc2 since it's a conduit for further smoking.
uhh you need to find another activity or geographic location that PREVENTS you from smoking. or something...

i have completely unqualified or knowledgeable in this field so.... as an argument / idea... i have NOTHING supporting what i just said so... yeah.

edit:or play sc2 in a place where you can't smoke...
im assuming you are playing at home and smoking at home... so... you are doing most of your smoking at home... so you need to avoid home? ahh idk..... im like... using the WORST logic ever... but... yeah T__T;;
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
February 27 2012 09:20 GMT
#3
The tips I can give you is to not use any of that stuff. I didnt really help me when I quit at all. What helped me was to get a good routine and get up and go out jogging for 30 mins the 4-5 times a week. When I started I was in really bad shape and could only run for 15 mins or so but I pretty much did it every morning for a month and I could feel I got better so that kept me fighitng the cigarettes as well. Who would like to take a cigarette after a 30 min jogging session ?! And who would like to ruin the pain and effort that was put into jogging. Ofcourse, some days I had trouble and in the afternoon I took a cigarette but I realiased that the more I trained the less I smoked and it helped me get rid of it. Make sure you dont have cigarettes at home and if possible that you dont live with a smoker. Also, try to get new routines and maybe you need to avoid the computer for a while if thats where you tend to smoke.

I used tabacco for about 6-7 years and I smoked a pack a day. I took almost a year to quit completly. At first I could only stay away from nicotine for a day or so. Then I could handle a week and then a month. I guess if you challange yourself and is awsome you could do it in one try though!

As a funny side note Im a huge tolkien fan and I use to think that it was sauron that was trying to control my mind by telling me to take a cigarette. Are you as strong as frodo ?
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 09:24:57
February 27 2012 09:24 GMT
#4
Try e-cigs maybe. I have been using them for a bit over 2 weeks now and have went from a pack a day to a pack every 4-5 days.

Edit: Also yes as mentioned above SC2 is going to make you want to smoke a bunch, I'd find a game you can play casually until ur getting somewhere with it.
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PowerDes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States520 Posts
February 27 2012 09:28 GMT
#5
Instead of smoking, stay the hell down and hit the find match button again.
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JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
February 27 2012 09:29 GMT
#6
Sounds like the nicotine addiction may be less of a factor than the actual act of smoking. Perhaps you could try biscuit sticks or a suitable alternative instead. There is a nicotine "cigarette" replacement device but it's quite expensive and (at least locally) only available at a (registered) pharmacy.
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2013 Posts
February 27 2012 09:37 GMT
#7
You may try to program yourself - for example:
1. Get a smell or a food that you find disgusting. Everytime you have a lust for cigarette you also need to "punish" yourself by eating/smelling the thing.
2. After you smoke a cigarette you need to do something - for example 30 pushups.
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
February 27 2012 09:39 GMT
#8
GL! there's some people here that might be able to help.
Beaza
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany203 Posts
February 27 2012 09:39 GMT
#9
A doctor or people that work in a pharmacy can give you much better advice.
asdfVSqwert
Profile Joined July 2006
Germany174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 09:49:46
February 27 2012 09:42 GMT
#10
Why do people nowadays need the easiest way out for every problem.. if you really want to get away of it get some balls and throw your cigs away and set a mindset to never touch it again. The easiest way is mostly the least effective one...My father and my grandpa did it that way..they smoked for 40 years, then stopped from one day to another and never touched a cigarette again.. if they can do it, you can do it to...if you can't make it, you probably dont wanna stop smoking.

Maybe a little help....at least it helped me a bit: think of it, you don't wanna be controlled by freakin little cigarette, which costs about nothing, and you for sure don't wanna be killed because of a freaking little cigarette which are there for no other reason than to make you addicted and bring the tabacco industry more money, where certain people will get your money. It is just a cigarette... nothing more, nothing less.
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
February 27 2012 09:45 GMT
#11
I've smoked for about 20 years now lol, since I was 17 and I've quit for periods of years (1-3 year stretches) and I do smoke occasionally still, but since the birth of by two kids, starting 4 years ago, I've kept smoking down to just social occasions. The most I use to smoke was about 2 packs a day- basically whenever I light up, I smoke 3 cigarettes and whenever I step outside I smoke a cigarette and when I drink, I'm literally smoking non-stop for 4 hours straight.

The ONLY time I ever really quit, quit- ( because most of the time I really haven't quit, I'm just trying not to smoke and there is a big difference from trying not to smoke and actually quitting )- was when I looked at a cigarette and thought it was disgusting that it was killing me. So when people were smoking around me or offering me a smoke, when I said 'no' I didn't have any feeling of missing out.

Truth is I loved smoking, I enjoyed every aspect of it and even when I felt sick from it, I'd just lay off for a few days and get back into it. But smoking for so long has had its impact on my health. My skin has aged considerably, and more importantly I had signs of early cardiovascular disease. Basically after I smoked a ciggy, I'd lose feeling in my hands and toes or sometimes I'd feel sharp pain across my forehead from the lack of blood circulation. What makes it a disease is that, even after I wouldn't smoke for a while, the effects wouldn't wear off.

Of course I had a major scare, but even then I didn't quit, wtf right? But once I really realized that it was killing me, that this was really crazy/disgusting and stupid shit that I was doing, I was able to just quit cold turkey because it just wasn't an option whatsoever. That being said, socially, I do smoke once in a while, and it is because I am healthier, but I've once again come into that mindset that ciggies aren't disgusting/killing poison, but just sharing the only time in my life where I really didn't touch or want to smoke and that was for about 3 years.

Cheers

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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 27 2012 09:46 GMT
#12
On February 27 2012 18:14 jodogohoo wrote:
you need consider to stop playing sc2 since it's a conduit for further smoking.
uhh you need to find another activity or geographic location that PREVENTS you from smoking. or something...

i have completely unqualified or knowledgeable in this field so.... as an argument / idea... i have NOTHING supporting what i just said so... yeah.

edit:or play sc2 in a place where you can't smoke...
im assuming you are playing at home and smoking at home... so... you are doing most of your smoking at home... so you need to avoid home? ahh idk..... im like... using the WORST logic ever... but... yeah T__T;;

hahahahahaha thanks for good laugh xD
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 27 2012 09:47 GMT
#13
MightyAtom you are red :D congrats man! OK reading everything now. Successful blog, damn.
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emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
February 27 2012 09:55 GMT
#14
e-cigs, they are seriously the business. My buddy smoked for 10+ years and got on blue light and hasn't looked back. Seriously, it's the fucking biznazzzz

Also I hear chocolate helps feed addiction since it releases endorphins in your brain which is the same chemical you get when you are addicted to anything.
NoctemSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States771 Posts
February 27 2012 10:01 GMT
#15
On February 27 2012 18:37 LastWish wrote:
You may try to program yourself - for example:
1. Get a smell or a food that you find disgusting. Everytime you have a lust for cigarette you also need to "punish" yourself by eating/smelling the thing.
2. After you smoke a cigarette you need to do something - for example 30 pushups.

You just explained how to train a dog sir.
The human brain is too logical to have a action-reaction train of thought.

To the OP: When I quit my motivation was the day I visited my Dads house. I live on the east coast and I have to fly to the west coast whenever I want to see him. I had some time off work (by time off I mean laid off) so I went to visit him. During the night I woke up to hear my father coughing his lungs out. Literally, He was coughing up blood. He's too stubborn to go to the doctor. My Dad has been smoking for 30 years.
http://www.twitch.tv/noctemsc <--Most epic fun times
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 27 2012 10:05 GMT
#16
good advice here. I smoked on and off and the best thing was to stay away from sc2 and bw also, I try not to hang with my smoker buddies and run everyday. doing this gave me less reasons to smoke and gradually I cut it down quite a lot. i used to smoke like a chimney, but now since I took away all the factors that make me want to smoke, I don't have that urge.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
February 27 2012 10:09 GMT
#17
On February 27 2012 19:01 NoctemSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 18:37 LastWish wrote:
You may try to program yourself - for example:
1. Get a smell or a food that you find disgusting. Everytime you have a lust for cigarette you also need to "punish" yourself by eating/smelling the thing.
2. After you smoke a cigarette you need to do something - for example 30 pushups.

You just explained how to train a dog sir.
The human brain is too logical to have a action-reaction train of thought.

To the OP: When I quit my motivation was the day I visited my Dads house. I live on the east coast and I have to fly to the west coast whenever I want to see him. I had some time off work (by time off I mean laid off) so I went to visit him. During the night I woke up to hear my father coughing his lungs out. Literally, He was coughing up blood. He's too stubborn to go to the doctor. My Dad has been smoking for 30 years.


we're more like animals than you think. for instance I have a friend who auto-gags when ever you spit near her... it's just a weird reflex because she trained her mind to do something.... rather twisted
NukeTheStars
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States277 Posts
February 27 2012 10:15 GMT
#18
You'll always want to smoke. That's just something you have to accept. The longer you quit, the less you'll want them, but it will never really go away completely. My mom told my dad to quit smoking when they started dating, so he quit cold turkey. He basically just stayed grumpy for years and got less and less grumpy over time. If you want a cool, manly story to tell, go that route!

If you ever need some motivation, just remember that if you keep smoking your chances of dying in incredible pain are pretty good! One of the common justifications for smoking is "Well, I'm just cutting off the 10 worst years." That's not quite correct. You're moving forward the 10 worst years and making them much worse. Both my grandparents on my dad's side were smokers and both died early in terrible pain.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
February 27 2012 10:22 GMT
#19
my grandpa was a smoker for decades until the doctor told him to quit smoking or risk being dead soon. So he simply quit cold turkey it wasnt easy and my grandma told me some stories how he was running around the appartment late at night but he managed to do it.

So my advice would be just do it. There are no excuses
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
February 27 2012 10:28 GMT
#20
If it was me I'd watch a lot of movies like Braveheart to feel like a motherfucking hero.
En Taro Violet
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
February 27 2012 10:51 GMT
#21
Im not a smoker but this was the logic i had since i was tempted back then. Do i want to spend money on cigarettes or buy myself a nice meal?
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 27 2012 10:59 GMT
#22
On February 27 2012 18:20 Robinsa wrote:
The tips I can give you is to not use any of that stuff. I didnt really help me when I quit at all. What helped me was to get a good routine and get up and go out jogging for 30 mins the 4-5 times a week. When I started I was in really bad shape and could only run for 15 mins or so but I pretty much did it every morning for a month and I could feel I got better so that kept me fighitng the cigarettes as well. Who would like to take a cigarette after a 30 min jogging session ?! And who would like to ruin the pain and effort that was put into jogging. Ofcourse, some days I had trouble and in the afternoon I took a cigarette but I realiased that the more I trained the less I smoked and it helped me get rid of it. Make sure you dont have cigarettes at home and if possible that you dont live with a smoker. Also, try to get new routines and maybe you need to avoid the computer for a while if thats where you tend to smoke.

I used tabacco for about 6-7 years and I smoked a pack a day. I took almost a year to quit completly. At first I could only stay away from nicotine for a day or so. Then I could handle a week and then a month. I guess if you challange yourself and is awsome you could do it in one try though!

As a funny side note Im a huge tolkien fan and I use to think that it was sauron that was trying to control my mind by telling me to take a cigarette. Are you as strong as frodo ?

Yeah man, fuck the ring!
On February 27 2012 18:24 Diamond wrote:
Try e-cigs maybe. I have been using them for a bit over 2 weeks now and have went from a pack a day to a pack every 4-5 days.

Edit: Also yes as mentioned above SC2 is going to make you want to smoke a bunch, I'd find a game you can play casually until ur getting somewhere with it.

I'm not playing SC2 THAT much yet and for some time I'm going to be playing even less because I need to find a 2nd job.
I did buy an e-cig but it doesn't make me smoke less and it makes my throat dry as hell.
On February 27 2012 18:29 JFKWT wrote:
Sounds like the nicotine addiction may be less of a factor than the actual act of smoking. Perhaps you could try biscuit sticks or a suitable alternative instead. There is a nicotine "cigarette" replacement device but it's quite expensive and (at least locally) only available at a (registered) pharmacy.

I tried the alternatives but I still want to feel that cig. Never heard of the device, I will ask about it.
On February 27 2012 18:37 LastWish wrote:
You may try to program yourself - for example:
1. Get a smell or a food that you find disgusting. Everytime you have a lust for cigarette you also need to "punish" yourself by eating/smelling the thing.
2. After you smoke a cigarette you need to do something - for example 30 pushups.

I need something different, I'm too lazy to do that. Maybe jogging.
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 27 2012 11:05 GMT
#23
On February 27 2012 19:15 NukeTheStars wrote:
You'll always want to smoke. That's just something you have to accept. The longer you quit, the less you'll want them, but it will never really go away completely. My mom told my dad to quit smoking when they started dating, so he quit cold turkey. He basically just stayed grumpy for years and got less and less grumpy over time. If you want a cool, manly story to tell, go that route!

If you ever need some motivation, just remember that if you keep smoking your chances of dying in incredible pain are pretty good! One of the common justifications for smoking is "Well, I'm just cutting off the 10 worst years." That's not quite correct. You're moving forward the 10 worst years and making them much worse. Both my grandparents on my dad's side were smokers and both died early in terrible pain.

Yeah, I'd rather avoid terrible terrible pain.
On February 27 2012 19:01 NoctemSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 18:37 LastWish wrote:
You may try to program yourself - for example:
1. Get a smell or a food that you find disgusting. Everytime you have a lust for cigarette you also need to "punish" yourself by eating/smelling the thing.
2. After you smoke a cigarette you need to do something - for example 30 pushups.

You just explained how to train a dog sir.
The human brain is too logical to have a action-reaction train of thought.

To the OP: When I quit my motivation was the day I visited my Dads house. I live on the east coast and I have to fly to the west coast whenever I want to see him. I had some time off work (by time off I mean laid off) so I went to visit him. During the night I woke up to hear my father coughing his lungs out. Literally, He was coughing up blood. He's too stubborn to go to the doctor. My Dad has been smoking for 30 years.

Nasty story and another reason why I want to quit but not strong enough to make me just quit without any help.
On February 27 2012 19:28 Stratos wrote:
If it was me I'd watch a lot of movies like Braveheart to feel like a motherfucking hero.

hehehhehe
On February 27 2012 19:51 Leeoku wrote:
Im not a smoker but this was the logic i had since i was tempted back then. Do i want to spend money on cigarettes or buy myself a nice meal?

I would buy an ASUS Titan computer and go to Caribbean. I'm not that poor that I have to decide whether to buy food or cigs but still...
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
February 27 2012 11:09 GMT
#24
Quit Cold Turkey.

Seriously that's the only reliable option. Just takes a lot of willpower. If you really want to quit then it will work. If you don't really want to quit you will smoke again.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
February 27 2012 11:11 GMT
#25
E-Cigs seem like a pretty popular option, you can read about djWheat's experience with em here: The technology behind Quitting Cigarettes (TL.net Blog) and it's pretty convincing.

It likely won't cure your nicotine addiction, that's a tougher ask, but it will certainly help control cravings and isn't as lethal, hopefully won't make you sick after each one either.

beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 11:13:10
February 27 2012 11:11 GMT
#26
On February 27 2012 20:09 Jayme wrote:
Quit Cold Turkey.

Seriously that's the only reliable option. Just takes a lot of willpower. If you really want to quit then it will work. If you don't really want to quit you will smoke again.

And that's the reason I want something more to help me. I want to quit but I don't have the willpower. Maybe I'll start jogging.
On February 27 2012 20:11 Dingobloo wrote:
E-Cigs seem like a pretty popular option, you can read about djWheat's experience with em here: The technology behind Quitting Cigarettes (TL.net Blog) and it's pretty convincing.

It likely won't cure your nicotine addiction, that's a tougher ask, but it will certainly help control cravings and isn't as lethal, hopefully won't make you sick after each one either.


I have one, maybe I should buy a liquor with more nicotine in it because it doesn't make want to smoke less.
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RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
February 27 2012 11:22 GMT
#27
Replace with jellybeans? XD

Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7863 Posts
February 27 2012 11:28 GMT
#28
Read Golden Holocaust. You'll find it here:

http://www.amazon.fr/Golden-Holocaust-Cigarette-Catastrophe-Abolition/dp/0520270169

You feel so much disgust for the sons of bitches who are ruling cigarettes companies since one century that you will rather cut your own hand rather than touch one of their product ever again.

Few things to give you a taste. In the 50's, when scientist have discovered the link between smoking and cancer, the bosses of the five biggest cigarettes companies have met in a cafe in Brooklyn to discuss how to prevent this discovery to spread. It is estimated that with propaganda in the culture businesses and plain corruption of many scientists they have delayed public knowledge for ten years. If you look at the graphs, you can estimate the cost of what they did that day to 8 million lives in ten years. That's more than the fucking Nazi genocides.

You also learn that tobacco kills more than wars, malaria, AIDS and terrorism put together? Yep, that's right.

I read this book the other day, and I just threw my cigarette pack. Because what you learn there is fucking gross.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
February 27 2012 11:39 GMT
#29
I would have told you you should try snus but it might be illegal in poland... joke laws :p I didn't even particularly want to quit smoking but once i started using snus my will to smoke went away in a matter of weeks or maybe a month or so. Not everyone is the same though but i would suggest you try some nicotine substitute you will still want to smoke but at least getting your nicotine fix will spare you the feeling annoyed as hell part so it will be easier^^ lots of coffee might help those times when you feel particularly in need, allthough it's more like duct tape than a permanent solution.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 12:18:34
February 27 2012 12:09 GMT
#30
I smoked continiously for 10 years before I quit. I tried slowly lowering the amount of cigarettes I smoke, but that doesn't work. Frankly, the nicotine addiction isn't the problem, it's the habit of doing the motions with your hands. Your body should be able to get rid of any nicotine residue in a day, and recover from the withdrawal in one additional day. Maybe a bit more, if you're older. Your best bet is to quit cold turkey and find something that keeps your hands busy... like playing a lot of computer games? It worked for me. Incidentally, I've stopped chewing my fingernails as well

I have to say, the biggest hurdle to pass was not smoking when drinking, since I've never drank anything without having a ciggarete. Most people over here smoke as well, so whenever you're drinking, you get tons of smoke on you, and it's a bit hard to resist. That's down to self-control more or less.

And to be completetly honest, I haven't quit at 100%, but it's been 10 months since I quit, and for that duration I've only smoked 3 cigarettes and 2 cigars (which were at a wedding).

So yeah, you just have to quit, at least from my experience that's the only thing that works.

Edit: About e-cigs: don't bother. If you really want to quit, they'll help you about as much as starting to smoke lighter cigarettes.
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1677 Posts
February 27 2012 12:09 GMT
#31
Remember that every time you buy a cigarette, you are giving your hard-earned cash to some unscrupulous fuck who would, will and does happily kill you and anybody else just to fill their wallet. The whole industry of it makes me feel sick, and I've never even touched a cigarette.
EleGant[AoV]
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
February 27 2012 13:21 GMT
#32
On February 27 2012 18:42 asdfVSqwert wrote:
Why do people nowadays need the easiest way out for every problem.. if you really want to get away of it get some balls and throw your cigs away and set a mindset to never touch it again. The easiest way is mostly the least effective one...My father and my grandpa did it that way..they smoked for 40 years, then stopped from one day to another and never touched a cigarette again.. if they can do it, you can do it to...if you can't make it, you probably dont wanna stop smoking.

Maybe a little help....at least it helped me a bit: think of it, you don't wanna be controlled by freakin little cigarette, which costs about nothing, and you for sure don't wanna be killed because of a freaking little cigarette which are there for no other reason than to make you addicted and bring the tabacco industry more money, where certain people will get your money. It is just a cigarette... nothing more, nothing less.

Good thing for your dad and his dad. Fact of the matter is that you have no idea of what youre talking about so dont say "just throw them away". Its simply just not possible for a lot of people. Maybe your dad had it easy? I didnt have it THAT tough but it took me several months and LOTS of energy. I was able to create a quite stress-free enviorment during this time and Im pretty sure thats why I was able to do it. Im not sure it would even have been possible to do working full time etc.
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eohs
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States677 Posts
February 27 2012 15:18 GMT
#33
Its probably been said but try the E-cigarettes they work well.. I just washed mine in the washer and now cant use it and dont want to spend the money on a new one lol.
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 27 2012 18:31 GMT
#34
On February 27 2012 20:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Read Golden Holocaust. You'll find it here:

http://www.amazon.fr/Golden-Holocaust-Cigarette-Catastrophe-Abolition/dp/0520270169

You feel so much disgust for the sons of bitches who are ruling cigarettes companies since one century that you will rather cut your own hand rather than touch one of their product ever again.

Few things to give you a taste. In the 50's, when scientist have discovered the link between smoking and cancer, the bosses of the five biggest cigarettes companies have met in a cafe in Brooklyn to discuss how to prevent this discovery to spread. It is estimated that with propaganda in the culture businesses and plain corruption of many scientists they have delayed public knowledge for ten years. If you look at the graphs, you can estimate the cost of what they did that day to 8 million lives in ten years. That's more than the fucking Nazi genocides.

You also learn that tobacco kills more than wars, malaria, AIDS and terrorism put together? Yep, that's right.

I read this book the other day, and I just threw my cigarette pack. Because what you learn there is fucking gross.

On February 27 2012 21:09 ImbaTosS wrote:
Remember that every time you buy a cigarette, you are giving your hard-earned cash to some unscrupulous fuck who would, will and does happily kill you and anybody else just to fill their wallet. The whole industry of it makes me feel sick, and I've never even touched a cigarette.

It's pretty interesting but it doesn't move me enough, honestly. We live in times of suing cigarette companies and multi million compensations for those who got cancer so it's not like justice haven't been served to those fucks. Really.
On February 27 2012 20:39 nttea wrote:
I would have told you you should try snus but it might be illegal in poland... joke laws :p I didn't even particularly want to quit smoking but once i started using snus my will to smoke went away in a matter of weeks or maybe a month or so. Not everyone is the same though but i would suggest you try some nicotine substitute you will still want to smoke but at least getting your nicotine fix will spare you the feeling annoyed as hell part so it will be easier^^ lots of coffee might help those times when you feel particularly in need, allthough it's more like duct tape than a permanent solution.

Hey I found it on allegro.pl , Polish equivalent of ebay ^_________^ gotta try thank you!!
On February 27 2012 21:09 Nikon wrote:
I smoked continiously for 10 years before I quit. I tried slowly lowering the amount of cigarettes I smoke, but that doesn't work. Frankly, the nicotine addiction isn't the problem, it's the habit of doing the motions with your hands. Your body should be able to get rid of any nicotine residue in a day, and recover from the withdrawal in one additional day. Maybe a bit more, if you're older. Your best bet is to quit cold turkey and find something that keeps your hands busy... like playing a lot of computer games? It worked for me. Incidentally, I've stopped chewing my fingernails as well

I have to say, the biggest hurdle to pass was not smoking when drinking, since I've never drank anything without having a ciggarete. Most people over here smoke as well, so whenever you're drinking, you get tons of smoke on you, and it's a bit hard to resist. That's down to self-control more or less.

And to be completetly honest, I haven't quit at 100%, but it's been 10 months since I quit, and for that duration I've only smoked 3 cigarettes and 2 cigars (which were at a wedding).

So yeah, you just have to quit, at least from my experience that's the only thing that works.

Edit: About e-cigs: don't bother. If you really want to quit, they'll help you about as much as starting to smoke lighter cigarettes.

Thank you for your help.
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ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
February 27 2012 19:27 GMT
#35
I have no idea. My father has smoked for 35 years and has had two heart attacks yet we both smoke. My sister smokes etc

I smoke a pack a day. I have pneumonia right now so I can't! I doubt I'll quit. I want to but not bad enough apparently. Thanks for this thread. I'll be reading!
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7863 Posts
February 27 2012 21:24 GMT
#36
On February 28 2012 03:31 beetlelisk wrote:
It's pretty interesting but it doesn't move me enough, honestly. We live in times of suing cigarette companies and multi million compensations for those who got cancer so it's not like justice haven't been served to those fucks. Really.

Read this book to realize how fucking wrong you are
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
djWHEAT
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States925 Posts
February 28 2012 01:38 GMT
#37
On February 27 2012 20:11 Dingobloo wrote:
E-Cigs seem like a pretty popular option, you can read about djWheat's experience with em here: The technology behind Quitting Cigarettes (TL.net Blog) and it's pretty convincing.

It likely won't cure your nicotine addiction, that's a tougher ask, but it will certainly help control cravings and isn't as lethal, hopefully won't make you sick after each one either.



I need to update my article as I believe there are now better eCIG solutions that have helped myself and others really kick the habit!

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1a
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada36 Posts
February 28 2012 02:30 GMT
#38
get an e-cig
start off with a higher concentration of nicotine and then every few weeks lower the concentration
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
February 28 2012 02:32 GMT
#39
Chew a fuckload of gum, thats what my friend who was addicted did and it helped ALOT. The sugar in gum is naturally healthy for you and it keeps your mouth occupied. Try citrus flavors
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Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
February 28 2012 03:24 GMT
#40
@op thats exactly the logic i mean. everytime u get a craving to smoke, think of the thing u really want to buy. and just throw that money into a collection to reward urself with that asus computer instead of n packs of cigs. like a swear jar
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 28 2012 03:35 GMT
#41
The more you think about how to quit, the harder it will be to actually quit. Thinking about how it is killing you, or thinking about how nice it would be to have one last smoke, or romanticizing it in any way (smoking or quitting) all make it much harder. The only thing you can do is accept that for a few weeks you will feel sick from your body adjusting being without nicotine, and then just try not to think about it at all from then on, leaving it totally and firmly in your past.

The people who relapse, I've found, are the people who talk about quitting too much. Goes for pretty much anything. You can try replacing it with something else, but then you're just finding something else to abuse your body with.
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 06:21:03
February 28 2012 06:20 GMT
#42
Hmmmmm after reading djWheat's blog I'm reconsidering e-cigs, I need to find mine and just buy stronger nicotine liquor for starters
but
I also like the idea of snus that nttea posted about. OK there is hope for me
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 28 2012 10:08 GMT
#43
On February 28 2012 15:20 beetlelisk wrote:
Hmmmmm after reading djWheat's blog I'm reconsidering e-cigs, I need to find mine and just buy stronger nicotine liquor for starters
but
I also like the idea of snus that nttea posted about. OK there is hope for me


can u link me that blog? id like to see, i love djwheat
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 28 2012 10:26 GMT
#44
On February 28 2012 19:08 Golgotha wrote:
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On February 28 2012 15:20 beetlelisk wrote:
Hmmmmm after reading djWheat's blog I'm reconsidering e-cigs, I need to find mine and just buy stronger nicotine liquor for starters
but
I also like the idea of snus that nttea posted about. OK there is hope for me


can u link me that blog? id like to see, i love djwheat

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=261189
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shanuzal
Profile Joined March 2011
1 Post
February 29 2012 06:03 GMT
#45
It might sound silly but read or audio book Allen Carr's "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking". I had tried a lot of things but couldn't kick the habit, and nicotine gum, patches, e-cigaratte, anything like that are just as bad for you because you never really break the addiction. This book has worked for me and all my friends who I've recommended it to, so good luck!
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 29 2012 06:12 GMT
#46
On February 29 2012 15:03 shanuzal wrote:
It might sound silly but read or audio book Allen Carr's "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking". I had tried a lot of things but couldn't kick the habit, and nicotine gum, patches, e-cigaratte, anything like that are just as bad for you because you never really break the addiction. This book has worked for me and all my friends who I've recommended it to, so good luck!

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