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Just a Couple of Thoughts

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February 21 2012 22:04 GMT
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1) It's interesting to see how quick people are to complain about a patch before even trying it, or thinking about it. I mean seriously how many complaints were there about the ghost change and how it 'wouldn't work' against Infestor/Brood Lord. Sorry but Terrans were already sniping Ultras and now BLs are 1 less shot than Ultras pre-patch and Infestors are also 1 less shot as well. Really it just means you now have to make marauders when going against ultras instead of more ghosts. Infestor/BL doesn't really change.

2) Also interesting is to see how Blizzard is setting up for HoTS already. The phoenix upgrade is clearly going to carry over and considering it is on the fleet beacon, they are all but telling you that you'll be able to get this capital ship and use it and then support it with Phoenix. Also think about this. Mass graviton beam + AoE AA attack from capital ship. I can already see the carnage...

3) The Swarm Host and the Shredder are the single best units to be added to HoTS. I love the idea of going back to a more BW style game (though I never played it, I started with War 2/3). Personally I can't wait to see more engagements happening all over the battlefield and maps like Cloud Kingdom. Here's to the game getting deeper/better.

4) The BW vs SC2 debate is ridiculous. Right now there are 2 big differences. SC2's skill cap seems lower as more players are scrunched together at the same level, with very few able to really break through and 'dominate.' The biggest reason for this is because mechanics don't matter as much as the ability to think, react and scout. People with the best mechanics usually won in BW. This is not the case in SC2. The other difference and the thing I want to see change is the 1 army hotkey syndrome I see with a lot of players. I didn't play BW, but even from War 3 I got used to using at least 2-3 hotkeys even as a terrible player. I really want to see better players doing this because games where both players just 1A are pretty terrible.

5) SC2 is not as 1A as most BW people say it is, nor is it as deep and complex as most SC2 people say it is. It is still developing, but the balance is starting to be found and really we're just seeing the start of it. That being said I really hope they don't F it up too badly with HoTS, but from everything I have seen so far the units being added/taken away won't destroy the balance of the game.

6) I am incredibly sad to see the carrier go. I love it as a unit, but unfortunately there are too many good units that crush it outright.

7) I am also sad to see that there will be another 'hero' unit added. Sorry, but really it's just not needed and honestly a rather terrible idea.

8) I have never played random in any game before SC2. Now though, I can never play anything else. I just love seeing all the game mechanics in action for myself and getting to use everything just a little bit more than makes up for the fact that I'll probably never see platinum while playing random.

Anyways, I know it's a rant and there is a bit of BW/SC2 things, but that doesn't mean that you (you know who you are) can come in here and start a shit storm about it all. Really I don't want any part of the discussion (read: BS dick measuring contest) for most of these. If you do have something to say on anything I wrote then my only request is that you don't be an ass. If you can't do that, then just rate the blog 1 star like you will and move along.

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