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iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 15 2012 00:21 GMT
#1
sup tl. I have a bit of a conundrum. I have a girlfriend, but most of my friends are girls, and I'm attracted to some of them (and in most cases, I can tell the attraction is mutual). I'm faithful to my girlfriend (never cheated on a girl before and I don't plan on it), but how do you deal with this? it's made harder due to the fact that my girlfriend lives 2 hours away.

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"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
February 15 2012 00:25 GMT
#2
well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky
The original Bogus fan.
Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
February 15 2012 00:27 GMT
#3
If you don't plan on being lovers with these other girls. Then there is no problem. I think the problem you have is that you think you will cheat on your girlfriend. My suggestion: Have sex with the other girls.
aruno, arunoaj, aruno_aj | Those are my main aliases
Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 00:32:11
February 15 2012 00:31 GMT
#4
Set boundaries and enforce them.

When coming on to a girl the guy always has the choice to kick it up to the next level. Never making a move ensures that it doesn't happen.

If she is coming on to you then you politely turn her down.

Hanging out in a big group is fine. Hanging out 1 on1 is also fine. Whenever you have temptation don't give in. If you find yourself in a potentially bad situation (alone in a room, next to each other, and having a nice emotional bonding moment) then you want to get out of it as quickly as possible.

I have a lot of female friends, too. Most of them are respectful enough not to cross any lines. This was never an issue when I dated anyone else. Make sure you also talk to your girlfriend and find out what she is and is not cool with (like sleeping on a couch at their place, going out, etc.).
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
February 15 2012 00:46 GMT
#5
Whos hotter?
Who will rub your back when you ask and grab you a beer on command? Who will give you morning jobs without needing to be asked? Which one begs for your attention like a little puppy dog wanting to be petted?

Answer these questions and you will know what to do
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
February 15 2012 00:50 GMT
#6
You do the same things you would with your girlfriend, but you don't have sex with (or perform sexual activities) with the friend. Pretend like you don't want to have sex with other women as well, and you're set.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
February 15 2012 00:56 GMT
#7
just cruise
High Risk Low Reward
Plutonik
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada329 Posts
February 15 2012 00:57 GMT
#8
just "fool around" with your hot friends, your girlfriend lives two hours away so its not like shes going to be finding out, this is why long distance relationships never work. She could be doing the same to you for all you know
apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
February 15 2012 01:05 GMT
#9
Feeling suicidal?
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iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 15 2012 01:09 GMT
#10
On February 15 2012 09:57 Plutonik wrote:
just "fool around" with your hot friends, your girlfriend lives two hours away so its not like shes going to be finding out, this is why long distance relationships never work. She could be doing the same to you for all you know

could never do that. even if I knew for a fact she wouldn't find out, the guilt would still kill me. it's just hard for me to be "just friends" with girls because I have a naturally flirty personality, I think.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 15 2012 01:13 GMT
#11
On February 15 2012 09:21 iamahydralisk wrote:
sup tl. I have a bit of a conundrum. I have a girlfriend, but most of my friends are girls, and I'm attracted to some of them (and in most cases, I can tell the attraction is mutual). I'm faithful to my girlfriend (never cheated on a girl before and I don't plan on it), but how do you deal with this? it's made harder due to the fact that my girlfriend lives 2 hours away.



Find guy friends and play matchmaker.
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 15 2012 01:14 GMT
#12
On February 15 2012 10:13 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 09:21 iamahydralisk wrote:
sup tl. I have a bit of a conundrum. I have a girlfriend, but most of my friends are girls, and I'm attracted to some of them (and in most cases, I can tell the attraction is mutual). I'm faithful to my girlfriend (never cheated on a girl before and I don't plan on it), but how do you deal with this? it's made harder due to the fact that my girlfriend lives 2 hours away.



Find guy friends and play matchmaker.

a lot of my guy friends are either taken or forever alones... not many in the "single but dateable" realm. I can think of one guy though.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
February 15 2012 01:29 GMT
#13
What does date-able mean exactly??
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 15 2012 01:36 GMT
#14
On February 15 2012 10:29 rel wrote:
What does date-able mean exactly??

it's not exactly something I can put into words... more like a feeling you get from knowing them well. some of them just plain don't want girlfriends, and others are so shy/unconfident/unassertive that they can't attract most women. they're good friendzone material, but they're not very good boyfriend material yet (the shy ones, that is).
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 01:54:07
February 15 2012 01:41 GMT
#15
I'm gonna go off on multiple tangents in this post.

I'm a very.. flirtatious guy and consequently, I occasionally end up in the same conundrum. except, it's not actually a conundrum.

basically, if you hang around girls a lot, and you "get" that they like you, it's natural that you also end up liking them. we usually like people who like us (unless they come off as creepy, or unless they're just.. so bad in the first place that them liking you isn't sufficient to make you like them. ) as such, occasionally having thoughts of the nature "gdamn I wish I could penetrate the fucking fuck out of *x*", isn't weird, and you shouldn't hate yourself for having them. Essentially, you can't control what you think.

And while whether you have control over what you do is a wholly other philosophical debate, at least your actions have tangible consequences felt outside the realm of your own consciousness- and you'll be held accountable for them - also by yourself. By this I mean; you probably regard yourself as a good person. (I personally regard myself as awesome. ) What makes you good? Different people have varying definitions - but most will agree that integrity, non-douchebaggy honesty, and caring about other people are all positive traits. The fact that you come to this forum to ask this question, to me implies that you at the very least care about your girlfriend, that you care about preserving your integrity, and considering you haven't told her about the various degrees of crushiness you invariably experience, you're also not being a jerk camouflaged as a honest person. Now comes the crux of this post: Do you feel happy knowing that you are good? For me, the knowledge about my own perception of my own goodness, is like a constant ability to inject happiness into myself; whenever something less than awesome happens, or if I somehow felt like, today, life shafted me, I can just consciously think; well, at least I'm awesome. And then I am happy again.

Be awesome. Don't be a jerk. If you feel like your relationship with your girlfriend is not working out, that you would prefer having sex and developing feelings and creating temporary or lasting bonds with other girls than her, then that's a legitimate point of view. And then, you should break up with her before you pursue any of the other girls; breaking up because a relationship makes you unhappy, does not make you a jerk. Likewise, you can choose to stay with your girlfriend, because you for example feel that your emotional connectivity with her outweights the connectivity you have with any of your flirtees, or because you feel that she is a superior human being, and that while it is unfortunate she lives far away from you, your long-term happiness will be greater due to sacrificing sex with different girls right now to continue staying with her.

You don't meet that many people who love you through your life. For most people, it amounts to a small amount of handfulls. Knowing this, you should be exceptionally wary to hurt the people who love you through betraying them. And, while you can rediscover love through meeting new people, there's one person you'll always be stuck with; Yourself. If you give yourself a reason to doubt your own awesomeness, and cheating on someone you love and who loves you is a legitimate reason to consider yourself less than awesome, it'll be hard to get back that feeling: Once you've fucked yourself over like this, it might be hard to re-convince you that you are great, and you'll consequently be more likely to approach quick, external "fixes" to make yourself happy, rather than being able to consciously conjure the feeling.

Don't go down that road. Don't cheat. Flirt away. Be single if you must. But if you're in a relationship, you're in a relationship, and there's not a single lay in the world worth ruining your self-respect.
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
February 15 2012 01:49 GMT
#16
You need to ask yourself if you want to be with your GF or not. That's the only relevant question. Cheating should NEVER be a part of the equation. If you feel like you need to cheat to be happy, you shouldn't have a GF in the first place. If you want to be single and hit it with those girls, then do it, there's nothing wrong with it. What would actually be wrong is cheating.

If you're in a relationship, then you're in it, don't cheat, that's terrible dude. It's okay to be flirtatious though, if that's your nature. I have a lot of female friends but only rarely have this problem, but when I do, I just accept the mutual attraction as part of the relationship and choose NOT to act upon it and not lead the other person to believe I want to. I don't, I want my relationship with my GF, and I will protect it.

Know this: Cheating is never fine, and it's not an option.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4126 Posts
February 15 2012 01:54 GMT
#17
This blog reminds me of this video



Imo its possible to be just friends but you got to have self control and know when to draw the line. Most importantly, don't let feelings develop.

Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28650 Posts
February 15 2012 01:58 GMT
#18
I disagree with the notion that you should avoid letting feelings develop. Imo, a crush without a possible outlet, is an awesome foundation for a friendship. Crushes don't last forever, but you end up looking at the person from the nicest possible angle. Sure, sometimes you'll be a little torn, but imo, the best way to live life isn't trying to find the path of least resistance. Don't be afraid to love because you're afraid to be hurt.
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
February 15 2012 02:17 GMT
#19
On February 15 2012 10:58 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I disagree with the notion that you should avoid letting feelings develop. Imo, a crush without a possible outlet, is an awesome foundation for a friendship. Crushes don't last forever, but you end up looking at the person from the nicest possible angle. Sure, sometimes you'll be a little torn, but imo, the best way to live life isn't trying to find the path of least resistance. Don't be afraid to love because you're afraid to be hurt.

I... half agree with you. I'd completely agree with you if we were talking about someone who isn't in a relationship, but since the OP has a girlfriend, letting feelings develop shows how little respect you have for your current relationship.

If you're single, sure, you might as well let it happen, but know that it is a risk, and it could potentially destroy your friendship.
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 02:19:24
February 15 2012 02:18 GMT
#20
really awesome posts from the last few people. I wouldn't cheat on my girlfriend ever (as you guys suggested, I'd break up with her first if I wanted to fool around). I'm mostly happy with my current relationship... I think it's hard for me because I'm a naturally physical person, and not being able to do physical stuff (I don't just mean sex) with my girlfriend on a regular basis can be hard to handle. I guess we'll see how things go when she moves here (soon).

also, on the subject of guys not being able to be friends (without some sort of sexual feelings) with girls, I agree except for a specific circumstance. I only have one really good girl friend that I'm attracted to (or was attracted to). I asked her out a long time ago and she said no, and things have been just peachy since then. the idea of sleeping with her makes me kind of sick because I see her as more of a sister type friend, if that makes sense.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 02:24:29
February 15 2012 02:23 GMT
#21
hey tl, i am a pimp with a girlfriend but i also have bunch of other female friends
and most of them want mah dick


oh and all the guys around me (except for one maybe) are losers and cannot ever hope to bang these chicks who want mah dick. suckass

is essentially what you are saying
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iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#22
On February 15 2012 11:23 phosphorylation wrote:
hey tl, i am a pimp with a girlfriend but i also have bunch of other female friends
and most of them want mah dick


is essentially your OP

I'm legit not trying to brag. It's hard to deal with because I'm constantly having mental battles when I'm hanging out with my friend girls.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
February 15 2012 02:26 GMT
#23
well, maybe you aren't. but minus the thing about the pimp and suckass, what i wrote is essentially what you wrote, just worded differently.

i thought it was an interesting observation
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28650 Posts
February 15 2012 02:30 GMT
#24
On February 15 2012 11:17 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 10:58 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I disagree with the notion that you should avoid letting feelings develop. Imo, a crush without a possible outlet, is an awesome foundation for a friendship. Crushes don't last forever, but you end up looking at the person from the nicest possible angle. Sure, sometimes you'll be a little torn, but imo, the best way to live life isn't trying to find the path of least resistance. Don't be afraid to love because you're afraid to be hurt.

I... half agree with you. I'd completely agree with you if we were talking about someone who isn't in a relationship, but since the OP has a girlfriend, letting feelings develop shows how little respect you have for your current relationship.

If you're single, sure, you might as well let it happen, but know that it is a risk, and it could potentially destroy your friendship.


how do you avoid letting feelings develop? how can I interact with a person while fully expressing myself emotionally (imo - important to develop a valuable friendship)? I mean, it's not like you meet someone and then you think "okay, I will only like this person to 60% of the extent I can like this person to avoid possibly being hurt or hurting someone in the future." Or, if you do, then you've just.. limited the scope of a future friendship from the get-go. what rather happens is that like, you interact normally with someone, and sometimes feelings develop. Then, if you're in a relationship, you don't act on them (which can feel "tough"), and if you're not, maybe you do. If being in a relationship means that you just can't make friends from the opposite sex, that's a terrible deal imo.
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
February 15 2012 02:38 GMT
#25
On the subject itself, I think it doesn't speak too well of your relationship when you are having these doubts. If you genuinely cared about your relationship with your gf, you would try hard to avoid getting so easily tempted by other girls in the first place. Being so liberal with opposite-sex friendships when you are already involved in a relationship is a slippery slope, I tell ya.

How old are you btw?
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rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
February 15 2012 02:58 GMT
#26
I love you eri.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28650 Posts
February 15 2012 03:02 GMT
#27
On February 15 2012 11:58 rel wrote:
I love you eri.


r u a girl cuz I can't reciprocate your feeling if u r
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rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
February 15 2012 03:05 GMT
#28
I'm a girl if you want me to be. Oh wait, was that what a girl would say???
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
February 15 2012 03:24 GMT
#29
no surprise that drone, the godless hippy, would take such a position
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 15 2012 03:27 GMT
#30
So you have mutual attractiion with girls that are right by you, yet you're dating a girl 2 hours away? I mean if theres mutual attraction witha multiple amount of girlsthen you already have a problem don't you?
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 03:37:39
February 15 2012 03:29 GMT
#31
On February 15 2012 11:30 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 11:17 mordk wrote:
On February 15 2012 10:58 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I disagree with the notion that you should avoid letting feelings develop. Imo, a crush without a possible outlet, is an awesome foundation for a friendship. Crushes don't last forever, but you end up looking at the person from the nicest possible angle. Sure, sometimes you'll be a little torn, but imo, the best way to live life isn't trying to find the path of least resistance. Don't be afraid to love because you're afraid to be hurt.

I... half agree with you. I'd completely agree with you if we were talking about someone who isn't in a relationship, but since the OP has a girlfriend, letting feelings develop shows how little respect you have for your current relationship.

If you're single, sure, you might as well let it happen, but know that it is a risk, and it could potentially destroy your friendship.


how do you avoid letting feelings develop? how can I interact with a person while fully expressing myself emotionally (imo - important to develop a valuable friendship)? I mean, it's not like you meet someone and then you think "okay, I will only like this person to 60% of the extent I can like this person to avoid possibly being hurt or hurting someone in the future." Or, if you do, then you've just.. limited the scope of a future friendship from the get-go. what rather happens is that like, you interact normally with someone, and sometimes feelings develop. Then, if you're in a relationship, you don't act on them (which can feel "tough"), and if you're not, maybe you do. If being in a relationship means that you just can't make friends from the opposite sex, that's a terrible deal imo.

Of course you can make a friend from a different gender while you're in a relationship, but letting "serious" feelings develop when you know it's happening is already acting on it to some extent. When you notice you're having feelings for a different person you should back off a bit, let it cool down, then go on with your friendship as normal.

Unless you blindly and suddenly fall in love with another person, you can always manage your feelings for someone, you need to remember that when you're in a relationship it isn't just about you anymore, it's about the partnership that you form with your couple, and that is something you must protect. You can't let yourself go and just let yourself feel stuff and say "oh but I won't stop this for fear of pain", because it's not only about you, there's someone else involved.

I agree you shouldn't stop yourself if you're single, and no one besides you and your friend can suffer the consequences. When you have a significant other you supposedly care for, and a relationship you're supposedly trying to nurture and support, it's wrong and disrespectful to expose it to this type of damage. If you can't be "just friends" with your friend, and you're risking your relationship, you either need to break up, or not be friends at all with this person, since you can't, at the very least you should make and respect clear boundaries with that person.

This is completely different from being flirtatious by nature, being flirtatious is completely unrelated to actually having feelings for someone.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28650 Posts
February 15 2012 03:37 GMT
#32
well ok, that sounds pretty similar to what I feel - e.g. act normally and if feelings develop then just, don't act on them, and after a while, you can expect them to cool down a bit. I'm just saying that, I will meet people with a smile, I'll compliment girls, and I'll appreciate compliments given to me by other girls. and then if I feel like my feelings for someone is growing beyond what's managable, then I should avoid masturbating to their facebook pictures or actively trying to end up in situations with them where we're drunk and alone together. but I don't think I should be cautious pre-attraction.
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iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 15 2012 03:48 GMT
#33
On February 15 2012 11:26 phosphorylation wrote:
well, maybe you aren't. but minus the thing about the pimp and suckass, what i wrote is essentially what you wrote, just worded differently.

i thought it was an interesting observation

never said anything bad about my friends dude. I said most of them are either taken or happy being single. only a few are the forever alone type.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 15 2012 03:55 GMT
#34
On February 15 2012 11:38 phosphorylation wrote:
On the subject itself, I think it doesn't speak too well of your relationship when you are having these doubts. If you genuinely cared about your relationship with your gf, you would try hard to avoid getting so easily tempted by other girls in the first place. Being so liberal with opposite-sex friendships when you are already involved in a relationship is a slippery slope, I tell ya.

How old are you btw?

also, I never said I was doubting my current relationship. I'm happy with it, but I don't think there's any way to avoid developing slight feelings for other people.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
February 15 2012 06:42 GMT
#35
you can either commit suicide or be silent with them...my experience, selfish bitch lol
Yenticha
Profile Joined July 2010
257 Posts
February 15 2012 08:14 GMT
#36
You could also have an "open" relationship? Like, keep the relationship as it is, except you and your current gf agree that you can have sex with other partners. That works for some of my friends (wouldn't work for everybody though).
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
February 15 2012 09:18 GMT
#37
On February 15 2012 17:14 Yenticha wrote:
You could also have an "open" relationship? Like, keep the relationship as it is, except you and your current gf agree that you can have sex with other partners. That works for some of my friends (wouldn't work for everybody though).


Dude where you live ? somewhere in Asia? Which mysticals creatures your friends date?
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
February 15 2012 12:29 GMT
#38
Oh so you and concert girl (from what i remember in ILK's thread) are still going out? If i remember correctly weren't you guys having issues? What happened there? Haven't seen any updates in that thread so...
Lemonayd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States745 Posts
February 15 2012 13:16 GMT
#39
On February 15 2012 10:54 Dante08 wrote:
This blog reminds me of this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA&nomobile=1

Imo its possible to be just friends but you got to have self control and know when to draw the line. Most importantly, don't let feelings develop.


that video was entertaining xD
son1dow
Profile Joined May 2009
Lithuania322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 13:29:32
February 15 2012 13:29 GMT
#40
Whatever you do, do not spit on anybody's face.
Play more Quake.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 15 2012 13:45 GMT
#41
To OP:

Stop being delusional. Those women do NOT want to sleep with you.

Cheers,
Suff
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Glaceau
Profile Joined February 2012
Wales333 Posts
February 15 2012 15:29 GMT
#42
if you can't be friends with the opposite sex while your in a relationship it means you guys have trust issues, got some friends with the same problem. If you can just be content with the fact that you guys are only seeing each other then its easy to be friends with multiple women. If you have problems containing yourself then maybe relationships arent for you.
Cmon, swing it
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
February 15 2012 15:39 GMT
#43
If you aren't worried about your self control ever....then it isn't a problem? I don't understand the OP.
pestilenz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Denmark379 Posts
February 15 2012 16:08 GMT
#44
Just the fact that you actually worry about stuff like that, when you say yourself that you are faithful to your gf makes it like you want a valid reason to cheat on her. I do not know if you are looking for such a reason but if that is the case, I suggest you jerk off until your dick is bleeding, and the thought about sex makes your dick hurt, or leave you gf.

You could also just pull yourself together, but since other people already suggested that I will not be talking about that.
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Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
February 15 2012 18:56 GMT
#45
I dont understand the OP's problem either. I mean, if you want your gf, stay away from the other girls. If you want the other girls, stay away from you gf. Dont try to convince yourself that finding a median between both is a solution. It's not.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
February 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#46
On February 15 2012 22:45 Sufficiency wrote:
To OP:

Stop being delusional. Those women do NOT want to sleep with you.

Cheers,
Suff


True, men tend to sexualize their environment and interaction.

I personally gradually got rid of girls I used to talk with, after sealing the deal with my girlfriend. I love her, and the easiest way to avoid being a hypocrite to her is to not put me into such situations. I still talk with a few, but I dropped all the 1 on 1 relationships I could've had before.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
February 15 2012 19:37 GMT
#47
On February 16 2012 04:28 Kukaracha wrote:
True, men tend to sexualize their environment and interaction.


Women don't?
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
February 15 2012 20:04 GMT
#48
On February 16 2012 04:37 Xiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 04:28 Kukaracha wrote:
True, men tend to sexualize their environment and interaction.


Women don't?


I believe that women actually do the reverse, which is why they can have "best friends" who want to have sex with them. They're able to overlook the sexual desires of their friend and cuddle without second thoughts.

Men, on the other hand, will interpretate a look in the eye as "she wants the cock" even though it simply was a look in the eye.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
February 16 2012 01:42 GMT
#49
I'm having this same problem, sort of -- I'm coming out of depression & withdrawal so once I can feel happiness again I think being with my gal will be phenomenal. I'm realizing its more about cultivating such a great relationship with your girl that, yeah, they're hot and you could do it, but why would you give up your girl? It's when she's worth so much more to you that others pale. If you've tried and tried and it isn't working, then be honest. But you have to give your relationship 100% and know that you did before you can honestly deal with this.

LDR's are hard, man. You gotta figure out a way to consistently use up all that energy or it will tear you apart
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
February 16 2012 02:29 GMT
#50
actually ive got a gal coming over tonight to play cod with before my gf arrives drunk or w/e. I could imagine sleeping with her, maybe, but it honestly would make me sick. I'm noticing a deviation to this same feeling with other women slowly.

for me, I just needed/need to meet more girls & keep not fapping. I'd stop objectifying, see shit for what it is, and once you've gotten in control of your sexuality the energy can be diverted anywhere you choose. I think your mind is weak at saying no because you don't do it many other places in your life and that's what is really scaring you. You wonder if when you come up to the cliff, you'll take the wrong plunge. Just gotta find other cliffs to walk up to, look over, and even if you like what you see walk away so you know you can. then you're good to go
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
February 16 2012 05:12 GMT
#51
On February 15 2012 10:58 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I disagree with the notion that you should avoid letting feelings develop. Imo, a crush without a possible outlet, is an awesome foundation for a friendship. Crushes don't last forever, but you end up looking at the person from the nicest possible angle. Sure, sometimes you'll be a little torn, but imo, the best way to live life isn't trying to find the path of least resistance. Don't be afraid to love because you're afraid to be hurt.


This is kind of dangerous (from experience). I got really close to a girl during last year and she had a boyfriend. I knew I should have kept my distance, but we had this ridiculously strong bond that I thought would develop into something more. Long story short, we end up sleeping together, I wanted to pursue a relationship, she said we were just friends, and I ended up being completely torn asunder as I had invested so much into that relationship.

I mean, it was worth it from her point of view - she got what she wanted and had a relationship to fall back on. From my position, it really really sucked. I would be wary of doing what has been done to me, so it's probably best to keep your distance.
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forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 05:21:03
February 16 2012 05:15 GMT
#52
Just ask her to enter into an "open relationship", believe me she'll understand
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 05:47:01
February 16 2012 05:45 GMT
#53
On February 15 2012 22:45 Sufficiency wrote:
To OP:

Stop being delusional. Those women do NOT want to sleep with you.

Cheers,
Suff

never said they "want to sleep with me." I said there's some mutual attraction there and I could easily make something of it if I wanted to. also, I think "don't be friends with girls" is a pretty silly solution. the more I think about this, the more I think that it stems from me not being entirely happy with my current relationship (just mostly happy). it's pretty complicated, but suffice to say, I feel like I could be happier with someone else. it's tough... I'm mostly happy now, and my girlfriend accepts my quirks and loves me for who I am, but those thoughts still creep up in the back of my head.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Yenticha
Profile Joined July 2010
257 Posts
February 16 2012 06:09 GMT
#54
On February 15 2012 18:18 Corsica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 17:14 Yenticha wrote:
You could also have an "open" relationship? Like, keep the relationship as it is, except you and your current gf agree that you can have sex with other partners. That works for some of my friends (wouldn't work for everybody though).


Dude where you live ? somewhere in Asia? Which mysticals creatures your friends date?


Haha, although I don't live there at the moment, the friends I'm referring to live in France. They are not very mystical. Just practical I guess. Like each other but logistics work against them (distance separates them every now and then for various durations).
Sex doesn't have to be so sacred. Or like an extremely precious thing girls hand out to handsome princes as some sort of reward. Going steady/faithful should be a real decision. Not something everyone does because Disney said so.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 16 2012 07:26 GMT
#55
On February 16 2012 14:45 iamahydralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 22:45 Sufficiency wrote:
To OP:

Stop being delusional. Those women do NOT want to sleep with you.

Cheers,
Suff

never said they "want to sleep with me." I said there's some mutual attraction there and I could easily make something of it if I wanted to. also, I think "don't be friends with girls" is a pretty silly solution. the more I think about this, the more I think that it stems from me not being entirely happy with my current relationship (just mostly happy). it's pretty complicated, but suffice to say, I feel like I could be happier with someone else. it's tough... I'm mostly happy now, and my girlfriend accepts my quirks and loves me for who I am, but those thoughts still creep up in the back of my head.


Honestly if that is your thought process it'll never last so you might as well break up now and get with one of those girls that you're so sure you can get with.
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
February 16 2012 08:04 GMT
#56
precisely. personally i just think he's a teenager (or an immature adult) involved in one of those glib "relationships"
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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
February 16 2012 08:35 GMT
#57
On February 15 2012 17:14 Yenticha wrote:
You could also have an "open" relationship? Like, keep the relationship as it is, except you and your current gf agree that you can have sex with other partners. That works for some of my friends (wouldn't work for everybody though).


I think this is probably the rarest thing in the world, and I'm pretty sure I would not want to date a girl who was cool with being in an open relationship.

I also like that video haha. I also believe that it is impossible for guys and girls to be just friends(on the guys side at least) unless there is like zero chance you'd ever be attracted to that person.
Jieun <3
pestilenz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Denmark379 Posts
February 16 2012 09:59 GMT
#58
On February 16 2012 17:04 phosphorylation wrote:
precisely. personally i just think he's a teenager (or an immature adult) involved in one of those glib "relationships"



Agree so much
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iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 16 2012 13:40 GMT
#59
On February 16 2012 17:04 phosphorylation wrote:
precisely. personally i just think he's a teenager (or an immature adult) involved in one of those glib "relationships"

lol. you know the old saying about when you assume...

just saying. you know nothing about me or my relationship, so it makes you look silly when you make giant leaping assumptions like that. I could go really indepth and explain everything, but I'm less inclined to do so when I'm dealing with someone who'll just jump to conclusions.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
February 16 2012 15:14 GMT
#60
On February 16 2012 22:40 iamahydralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 17:04 phosphorylation wrote:
precisely. personally i just think he's a teenager (or an immature adult) involved in one of those glib "relationships"

lol. you know the old saying about when you assume...

just saying. you know nothing about me or my relationship, so it makes you look silly when you make giant leaping assumptions like that. I could go really indepth and explain everything, but I'm less inclined to do so when I'm dealing with someone who'll just jump to conclusions.


You could simply say how old you are.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
February 16 2012 15:31 GMT
#61
I wish i had OP's problem lol. How can girls liking you ever be a problem? unless you have absolutely 0 self control.
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 16 2012 15:51 GMT
#62
On February 17 2012 00:14 Kukaracha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 22:40 iamahydralisk wrote:
On February 16 2012 17:04 phosphorylation wrote:
precisely. personally i just think he's a teenager (or an immature adult) involved in one of those glib "relationships"

lol. you know the old saying about when you assume...

just saying. you know nothing about me or my relationship, so it makes you look silly when you make giant leaping assumptions like that. I could go really indepth and explain everything, but I'm less inclined to do so when I'm dealing with someone who'll just jump to conclusions.


You could simply say how old you are.

Age has nothing to do with it. I'm committed to this girl like you wouldn't believe and it's anything but immature. That doesn't change the fact that feelings for other people naturally develop, though. It just creates tension is all.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
February 16 2012 15:56 GMT
#63
On February 17 2012 00:31 Onlinejaguar wrote:
I wish i had OP's problem lol. How can girls liking you ever be a problem? unless you have absolutely 0 self control.


it's difficult to not have sex with a lot of girls when you're in a good relationship with someone, it's murphy's law..
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
February 16 2012 16:00 GMT
#64
Of course age has to do something with it. With different steps in one's life come different questions. Add to this the fact that 2 hours is a "long distance relationship" to you and the question itself ("I want to have sex with my friends but I have a GF, what do I do"?)
And the fact that you changed your writing when people asked your age.

Important relationships can either be long and "serious" or short and "passionate". The rest is fun and games and should not be taken too seriously.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 16:43:51
February 16 2012 16:36 GMT
#65
On February 17 2012 01:00 Kukaracha wrote:
Of course age has to do something with it. With different steps in one's life come different questions. Add to this the fact that 2 hours is a "long distance relationship" to you and the question itself ("I want to have sex with my friends but I have a GF, what do I do"?)
And the fact that you changed your writing when people asked your age.

Important relationships can either be long and "serious" or short and "passionate". The rest is fun and games and should not be taken too seriously.

No idea what you mean by "I changed my writing." And two hours IS a long distance, especially when you only get to see that person every other weekend because you're both busy with work and school. It may not be as bad as being thousands of miles away from each other, but don't try to act like the distance isn't an issue.

And also, that's not even the question. I didn't even mention sex and you're automatically assuming that's what I'm talking about. Believe it or not, I'm not the type of guy who has random sex with random girls unless there's some deep feeling there. The question is "how do I have tension free relationships with girls when I know there's some mutual attraction there but I won't let myself act on it?"
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Amanebak
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Czech Republic528 Posts
February 16 2012 17:34 GMT
#66
On February 17 2012 00:56 Endymion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 00:31 Onlinejaguar wrote:
I wish i had OP's problem lol. How can girls liking you ever be a problem? unless you have absolutely 0 self control.


it's difficult to not have sex with a lot of girls when you're in a good relationship with someone, it's murphy's law..

ROFL. Really? This is the best murphy's law I ever heard of.
BW
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
February 16 2012 18:00 GMT
#67
I'm jumping to conclusions here, yes, but I think they are reasonable conclusions based on what you wrote.
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iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 16 2012 19:23 GMT
#68
Jumping to conclusions is never reasonable because you don't have enough info to make a proper judgment. Just saying.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
February 16 2012 19:37 GMT
#69
On February 17 2012 04:23 iamahydralisk wrote:
Jumping to conclusions is never reasonable because you don't have enough info to make a proper judgment. Just saying.


So you ask for advice, but you don't give enough information to give an appropriate answer, but if someone takes the time and makes conclusions, you just write him off?
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 16 2012 19:55 GMT
#70
On February 17 2012 04:37 Xiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 04:23 iamahydralisk wrote:
Jumping to conclusions is never reasonable because you don't have enough info to make a proper judgment. Just saying.


So you ask for advice, but you don't give enough information to give an appropriate answer, but if someone takes the time and makes conclusions, you just write him off?

If someone doesn't have enough info to make a valid judgment on something, they shouldn't make a judgment at all. I'm plenty willing to give more info to people who actually make constructive posts (which he hasn't).
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 16 2012 19:57 GMT
#71
Plus I'm posting from my phone atm and I'd rather not type out a long post cause touchscreen is a pain in the butt.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
February 16 2012 22:14 GMT
#72
Our perception of the world is judgmental. The only thing we have control over is wether we voice our opinions and intuitions or not.

We wrote our intuitive opinion based on the little information you gave us, that is all. Maybe you are a teenager and you're pissed by the caricature, maybe you're not, it's not that important to us. You were the one asking questions.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
February 16 2012 22:30 GMT
#73
On February 15 2012 10:41 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I'm gonna go off on multiple tangents in this post.

I'm a very.. flirtatious guy and consequently, I occasionally end up in the same conundrum. except, it's not actually a conundrum.

basically, if you hang around girls a lot, and you "get" that they like you, it's natural that you also end up liking them. we usually like people who like us (unless they come off as creepy, or unless they're just.. so bad in the first place that them liking you isn't sufficient to make you like them. ) as such, occasionally having thoughts of the nature "gdamn I wish I could penetrate the fucking fuck out of *x*", isn't weird, and you shouldn't hate yourself for having them. Essentially, you can't control what you think.

And while whether you have control over what you do is a wholly other philosophical debate, at least your actions have tangible consequences felt outside the realm of your own consciousness- and you'll be held accountable for them - also by yourself. By this I mean; you probably regard yourself as a good person. (I personally regard myself as awesome. ) What makes you good? Different people have varying definitions - but most will agree that integrity, non-douchebaggy honesty, and caring about other people are all positive traits. The fact that you come to this forum to ask this question, to me implies that you at the very least care about your girlfriend, that you care about preserving your integrity, and considering you haven't told her about the various degrees of crushiness you invariably experience, you're also not being a jerk camouflaged as a honest person. Now comes the crux of this post: Do you feel happy knowing that you are good? For me, the knowledge about my own perception of my own goodness, is like a constant ability to inject happiness into myself; whenever something less than awesome happens, or if I somehow felt like, today, life shafted me, I can just consciously think; well, at least I'm awesome. And then I am happy again.

Be awesome. Don't be a jerk. If you feel like your relationship with your girlfriend is not working out, that you would prefer having sex and developing feelings and creating temporary or lasting bonds with other girls than her, then that's a legitimate point of view. And then, you should break up with her before you pursue any of the other girls; breaking up because a relationship makes you unhappy, does not make you a jerk. Likewise, you can choose to stay with your girlfriend, because you for example feel that your emotional connectivity with her outweights the connectivity you have with any of your flirtees, or because you feel that she is a superior human being, and that while it is unfortunate she lives far away from you, your long-term happiness will be greater due to sacrificing sex with different girls right now to continue staying with her.

You don't meet that many people who love you through your life. For most people, it amounts to a small amount of handfulls. Knowing this, you should be exceptionally wary to hurt the people who love you through betraying them. And, while you can rediscover love through meeting new people, there's one person you'll always be stuck with; Yourself. If you give yourself a reason to doubt your own awesomeness, and cheating on someone you love and who loves you is a legitimate reason to consider yourself less than awesome, it'll be hard to get back that feeling: Once you've fucked yourself over like this, it might be hard to re-convince you that you are great, and you'll consequently be more likely to approach quick, external "fixes" to make yourself happy, rather than being able to consciously conjure the feeling.

Don't go down that road. Don't cheat. Flirt away. Be single if you must. But if you're in a relationship, you're in a relationship, and there's not a single lay in the world worth ruining your self-respect.


This advice is so fucking good. Not even just for the topic of girls, but life in general. LiquidDrone - God among men.
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
February 16 2012 22:51 GMT
#74
On February 17 2012 07:14 Kukaracha wrote:
Our perception of the world is judgmental. The only thing we have control over is wether we voice our opinions and intuitions or not.

We wrote our intuitive opinion based on the little information you gave us, that is all. Maybe you are a teenager and you're pissed by the caricature, maybe you're not, it's not that important to us. You were the one asking questions.

Not a teenager bro. Here's a tip: If you don't have enough information to make a qualified judgment, why don't you ASK for more info instead of jumping to conclusions and likely making a very misinformed judgment.

On the subject of the actual topic at hand: I have no problem being faithful to my girlfriend because I have self control. I just like having a lot of friends and it's understandable (and expected) that some of them will be girls. I've just never really been in this position before (being able to attract women) because I used to be a forever alone myself (I got out of that by going to the gym and updating my fashion. confidence way up). I guess my original question was somewhat of a rhetorical one, but I was just curious to see how other TLers handle the natural attraction that develops between two people who have a chance to be attracted to one another (meaning two heterosexual people or two gay people) when you can't act on that attraction. If any of you are actually curious about the details of my relationship, I'll make an update post in this thread:

www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=247260

I feel like that's a better place to put it.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
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