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Hyeon
Korea (South)462 Posts
[SPL] Woongjin Stars VS KeSPA Team Eight 2011-2012 SK Planet ProLeague Round #2 Week #4 1-28-2012 12:00 KST + Show Spoiler [Result] + (T)sin «Ground Zero » (P)Jaehoon (Z)ZerO «Chain Reaction » (T)BaBy (T)LighT «Electric Circuit » (Z)Killer (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey «Sniper Ridge » (T)Sea (P)Flying «Outlier » (Z)Jaedong VOD(whole game) There was an epic scene. This lasted for 8minutes, but Jaedong was Jaedong. Enjoy this EPIC image. ![[image loading]](http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/fileUpload/201201/1327760475.JPG) EDIT: Sorry guys, i didn't post the full game link :3   | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
This is one of the most tense games I've ever watched live, Flying had no idea what hit him when those new units were freed. | ||
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Xiron
Germany1233 Posts
Ok now I saw it on Sayle's stream and now, in context of the entire game, it made sense that it was just a failure and not fully on purpose like the title suggests. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On January 28 2012 23:53 Xiron wrote: Care to explain what the purpose for this wall is? uhhh its best if you watch the vod.. | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
On January 28 2012 23:53 Xiron wrote: Care to explain what the purpose for this wall is? + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RpUZK.jpg) for teh lulz | ||
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
On January 28 2012 23:53 Xiron wrote: Care to explain what the purpose for this wall is? Do you an idea about those creep blocks back in Dota where chen and crew with Dominators control units and block the ramp with it and make 1 big push after 10 minutes or so? yeah .... that happened LOL 5 STARS | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:00 Dexington wrote: I watched the vod, still do not understand. Either seriously trolling or seriously dumb? User was warned for this post | ||
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ETisME
12387 Posts
On January 28 2012 23:59 shaftofpleasure wrote: Do you an idea about those creep blocks back in Dota where chen and crew with Dominators control units and black the ramp with it and make 1 big push after 10 minutes or so? yeah .... that happened LOL 5 STARS but why can't he just set a rally point to somewhere else and group them together? I mean those units (the creep in dota) were auto spawned for free after all and so stacking made sense | ||
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JMave
Singapore1803 Posts
On January 28 2012 23:53 Xiron wrote: Care to explain what the purpose for this wall is? + Show Spoiler + he made a mistake by leaving the drones at the ramp. this blocked the units from 2 hatcheries for about 5 minutes or so, leaving a ton of units that could not move to the rally. jd was basically holding off the attacks with his small army while the rest of it was left blocked. | ||
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:04 ETisME wrote: but why can't he just set a rally point to somewhere else and group them together? I mean those units were auto spawned for free after all He didn't notice it until it became really big. He was constantly attacked from different angles by Flying and still Jaedong held it together with almost half of his units being stuck on that ramp, being useless. LOL | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
This was not on purpose, nobody would park 4 drones for the lulz, what are you guys thinking x_x Edit: Ok a few people explained while I was writing this  | ||
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:00 Dexington wrote: I watched the vod, still do not understand. where did you watch it? edit: ah okay i saw it in the OP, i thought the whole game was released somewhere | ||
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micronesia
United States24676 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
The drones were blocking the units from getting to their rally point outside the natural. Jaedong didn't realise as he was just macroing and dealing with harrass for 5 or so minutes. The units just kept building up and it's not like pros spend time looking at their own ramp in 4 base macro mode. His supply was also spread out defending at different spots on the map so he couldn't immediately tell his army was smaller than it should've been. He was in tears after the game. I'm guessing his pride couldn't handle such a public mistake. edit: people already explained. I was really worried he would gg without ever realising it. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13926 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:06 JMave wrote: + Show Spoiler + he made a mistake by leaving the drones at the ramp. this blocked the units from 2 hatcheries for about 5 minutes or so, leaving a ton of units that could not move to the rally. jd was basically holding off the attacks with his small army while the rest of it was left blocked. thanks. I didn't see anything but a mess of green and off green and a little brown. That is pretty funny that it happened. Was this on television? | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:22 micronesia wrote: The reason why people are confused is because it's not that clear whether it was an accident on JD's part or if he did it intentionally. You could make an argument either way (even though only one is correct). Yeah, I thought he was doing it on purpose, in which case it would make no sense to do that except to troll your opponent. | ||
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deafhobbit
United States828 Posts
Also, i don't understand why anyone could think this was on purpose. If Jaedong just wanted to hold his army back, he would just have rallied them at the base of the ramp. | ||
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kaisr
Canada715 Posts
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
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how
United States538 Posts
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Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
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Hyeon
Korea (South)462 Posts
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
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rkffhk
474 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + There was a lot of standard DT nonsense from the Protoss that game and he wanted to safeguard his tech structures in his main, so he put the Drones on hold position so that he'd have more time to spot the DTs on the minimap, should they have actually come through that ramp at any point in the game. | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:43 rkffhk wrote: The reason why he had the Drones there in the first place on hold position was because + Show Spoiler + There was a lot of standard DT nonsense from the Protoss that game and he wanted to safeguard his tech structures in his main, so he put the Drones on hold position so that he'd have more time to spot the DTs on the minimap, should they have actually come through that ramp at any point in the game. This makes no sense whatsoever. Is it some weird joke? | ||
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Thienan567
United States670 Posts
Still hilarious and awesome that JD defended with just ling lurker and had like at least 30 supply blocked there. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:50 HopLight wrote: This makes no sense whatsoever. Is it some weird joke? whats there not to get. it makes perfect sense. | ||
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jlim
Spain943 Posts
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On January 29 2012 01:04 BLinD-RawR wrote: whats there not to get. it makes perfect sense. I still don't get it, why use drones to block, they can easily be one shot swiped by DTs which is the main purpose the DTs want to accomplish anyways. Why not block with hydras or at least the cheaper zerglings. Also why the hold position it makes no difference does it? Not to mention that since its drones there is no hold position unless you pair them with other units which like I said would have been a cheaper blocking alternative. | ||
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iSometric
2221 Posts
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
On January 29 2012 01:04 BLinD-RawR wrote: whats there not to get. it makes perfect sense. Actually, it's pretty counter-intuitive. The title suggests that JD did something really well (epic wall), when it's actually a failure. If this had been titled, Jaedong's blocked rally, then everyone would be ROFLing. | ||
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Rinny
United States616 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:28 deafhobbit wrote: The best part was right after the army rolled out, there was doom zoom on Flying with the best "Oh Shit" face I've ever seen watching BW. Also, i don't understand why anyone could think this was on purpose. If Jaedong just wanted to hold his army back, he would just have rallied them at the base of the ramp. Omg the zoomk in was so funny. All the koreans are going AHHHHH in the background, they zoom in on him, and an extra 60 supply comes out of nowhere and starting killing his archons. Cant wait for the winners interview. | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
It was really entertaining | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On January 29 2012 01:12 bearbuddy wrote: Actually, it's pretty counter-intuitive. The title suggests that JD did something really well (epic wall), when it's actually a failure. If this had been titled, Jaedong's blocked rally, then everyone would be ROFLing. That's the problem with sarcasm. How am I supposed to get the joke if you say the opposite of what you mean? | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On January 29 2012 01:44 hypercube wrote: That's the problem with sarcasm. How am I supposed to get the joke if you say the opposite of what you mean? wtf is sarcasm, the most important thing is we have accurate thread titles. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
"Who's there?" "25 hydras and 40 zerglings" | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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surfinbird1
Germany999 Posts
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:27 sermokala wrote: thanks. I didn't see anything but a mess of green and off green and a little brown. That is pretty funny that it happened. Was this on television? Yer it was, watched it live. Was really nervous he was going to gg without realising too... | ||
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
On January 29 2012 01:45 Condor Hero wrote: wtf is sarcasm, the most important thing is we have accurate thread titles. I'd choose sarcasm any day. | ||
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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darkmighty
Brazil48 Posts
Hilarious to watch live. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
BTW, you spoiled set 3 and 4 for me since Jaedong did not play till set 5 and I saw this thread title on my way to the small VOD thread. Please use a more ambiguous title in the future (stars vs T8 spoilers) or something. Most frightening thing about it was that if Jaedong had lost people would have been raising pitchforks about matchfixing (realistic or not given the situation..). I am really glad Jaedong still won, even tho you could tell he wasn't sure how to feel after it was done (do I get high fives for that?? I'm not sure..). the drones where there to block DTs early game I think No... A DT would just kill them and keep walking. They were definitely left over from a rally point. | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On January 29 2012 03:51 darkmighty wrote: Oh god this just made me a fan of JD. The guy holds non-stop attack for like 5 minutes with a fraction of his army. I think this kind of thing can happen to anyone (the drones where there to block DTs early game I think), and he's such a macro beast, has this game so mapped out that he didn't even pass thought that particular area. Hilarious to watch live. then he threw away all that excess army in 1 stupid attack l0l | ||
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Rlentless
Hong Kong322 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:33 kaisr wrote: how did the drones get there in the first place? I've also forgotten cuz I haven't BWed in so long, do they have to be on hold position in order for allied units to not get through? Possibly a rally point mistake or perhaps a misclick in the mini-map. We don't know for certain unless we watch the fpvod (which obviously they will not release it). | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
Jaedong did it intentionally ftw | ||
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getSome[703]
United States753 Posts
On January 29 2012 01:04 BLinD-RawR wrote: whats there not to get. it makes perfect sense. No, it makes no sense at all. I see both you and the other guy joined TL only after SC2 was released so you may not be aware of some of the differences in BW. When a DT kills a unit in one hit (drone or probe), there is no warning or notification whatsoever. So putting three drones on a ramp to be safe from DTs wouldn't do anything but allow a DT to get three extra drone kills without JD realizing it (it's not like he kept looking back at the ramp.. lol) before they get into the main. | ||
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aogmxctm
64 Posts
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eci
Germany45 Posts
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trew
Sweden93 Posts
On January 29 2012 04:54 getSome[703] wrote: No, it makes no sense at all. I see both you and the other guy joined TL only after SC2 was released so you may not be aware of some of the differences in BW. When a DT kills a unit in one hit (drone or probe), there is no warning or notification whatsoever. So putting three drones on a ramp to be safe from DTs wouldn't do anything but allow a DT to get three extra drone kills without JD realizing it (it's not like he kept looking back at the ramp.. lol) before they get into the main. Seriously? When a DT is in one of your mineral lines one-shotting workers, you get no warning? | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + AND HE STILL WON! WHAT A BAWS!!! | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On January 29 2012 07:13 trew wrote: Seriously? When a DT is in one of your mineral lines one-shotting workers, you get no warning? You get none in sc2 either (in reference to the post you're replying to) | ||
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
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getSome[703]
United States753 Posts
On January 29 2012 07:13 trew wrote: Seriously? When a DT is in one of your mineral lines one-shotting workers, you get no warning? Nope, watch bisu vs savior (: DT galore On January 29 2012 07:30 MrCon wrote: You get none in sc2 either (in reference to the post you're replying to) Yes, you do. | ||
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
but what I don't understand, after watching the YouTube clip- why was the camera on that drone wall the entire 2:50. I mean even when the spectator clicked on another part of the minimap it's still at the drone wall. dafuq? | ||
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EienShinwa
United States655 Posts
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On January 29 2012 07:13 trew wrote: Seriously? When a DT is in one of your mineral lines one-shotting workers, you get no warning? I think it pings the minimap but makes no noise. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 29 2012 08:31 Bub wrote: I understand the wall but what I don't understand, after watching the YouTube clip- why was the camera on that drone wall the entire 2:50. I mean even when the spectator clicked on another part of the minimap it's still at the drone wall. dafuq? The places where the camera looked away were clearly edited out | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
 .anyway it was incredible seeing JD made that mistake and still held off every single attack the protoss made. The protoss face in the end is just way too funny. Im glad i watched this live with friends via teamspeak :D | ||
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
On January 29 2012 08:39 Demonhunter04 wrote: I think it pings the minimap but makes no noise. Wrong. No warning at all in BW. You get a warning if it attacks say, a Hydra, but not a drone. Warning will say(if sound is on) : "Your units are under attack!" etc. Zerg has a slightly different announcement I believe, but you get the jist of it. Also, ROFL. Watched the "wtf" face 10 times :D | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On January 29 2012 09:13 3FFA wrote: Wrong. No warning at all in BW. You get a warning if it attacks say, a Hydra, but not a drone. Warning will say(if sound is on) : "Your units are under attack!" etc. Zerg has a slightly different announcement I believe, but you get the jist of it. Also, ROFL. Watched the "wtf" face 10 times :D Because if a DT kills someone in one hit technically that unit is not under attack, it is dead. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On January 29 2012 09:42 Condor Hero wrote: Because if a DT kills someone in one hit technically that unit is not under attack, it is dead. Indeed if i dt 1 shots a drone how can that drone possibly have a chance to warn his buddies? | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
On January 29 2012 09:51 ninazerg wrote: During his first-person view, which was shown twice during the match, I never saw him look at his ramp once, which suggests to me that it was accidental. I can't imagine why he would do that on purpose. I was accident for sure, that's why its so funny... | ||
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ultimatenewb
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
On January 29 2012 08:54 Cyber_Cheese wrote: The places where the camera looked away were clearly edited out Yeah, was that necessary? I think not.. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
Unless there's something about the map I overlooked | ||
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JMave
Singapore1803 Posts
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kc
Canada212 Posts
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SkimGuy
Canada709 Posts
The reason for it was that he made a muta/scourge switch to try and reduce the corsair numbers, and rallied them to his ramp to be safe. Then when he switched back to hydraurk/ling/defiler, he forgot about that rally and all he ended up blocking his own units. In the interview, he says that the reason he saw it was that he was approaching max supply but couldn't find any of his units, so he looked around and saw it xd | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On January 29 2012 23:53 SkimGuy wrote: It was clearly a mistake. The reason for it was that he made a muta/scourge switch to try and reduce the corsair numbers, and rallied them to his ramp to be safe. Then when he switched back to hydraurk/ling/defiler, he forgot about that rally and all he ended up blocking his own units. In the interview, he says that the reason he saw it was that he was approaching max supply but couldn't find any of his units, so he looked around and saw it xd This is correct, I rewatched the game and the block happened immediately after the switch like you said. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 29 2012 17:42 JMave wrote: i am absolutely sure it was a rallying mistake. maybe some units were moving in the way and the drones were blocked and stopped there. No no, I mean, why make the wall in the first place. It's obvious that keeping it was a mistake, but he never really had enemy forces sneaking through that ramp... Edit: Oh derp, read the second next comment. Thanks :D | ||
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babysuperga
Vietnam49 Posts
At first, I thought JD was up to something but when the number of blocked creatures multiplied I began to scream bad words LOL | ||
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dongmydrum
United States139 Posts
On January 29 2012 10:06 GohgamX wrote: I was accident for sure, that's why its so funny... uhh............ | ||
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
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icclown
Denmark270 Posts
Jaedong is running like a clockwerk! He'll never suspect that anything is wrong, neither would he go look for any missing units like you and me, if he produced them, they have to be there somewhere!!! I remember he made an annoyed face just momentarily after he released all of the units, any pic of that? | ||
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WaterTower
France138 Posts
Light: Oh. My. God. How'd you remake your army so fast? JD: *takes a puff from a cigar* Just trollin. Weren't you humiliated when I held you off without half my army? Light: Why, you little dick JD: Actually, I am the big Bad dong. Who just went out with Tossgirl. | ||
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Azera
3800 Posts
On February 03 2012 18:44 WaterTower wrote: After the game... Light: Oh. My. God. How'd you remake your army so fast? JD: *takes a puff from a cigar* Just trollin. Weren't you humiliated when I held you off without half my army? Light: Why, you little dick JD: Actually, I am the big Bad dong. Who just went out with Tossgirl. Ok what. | ||
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