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Pokemon MMORPG, Why You No Exist? - Page 2

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Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
January 26 2012 22:33 GMT
#21
There is an mmo for pokemon..

http://www.pokemonworldonline.net/

Not fancy graphics or anything, but pretty cool if you know friends or if you can organize TLers. I played awhile back but not anymore.
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:38:21
January 26 2012 22:36 GMT
#22
One of my brothers friends actually created something like this called Pokemon: Den of Ages. Im not sure if he still mantains the servers anymore but heres a link if anyone wants to check it out. http://pdoa.koneko-chan.net/

after looking I see its in closed beta. :/ nvm. From what I remember my brother playing they really kept it similar to the games graphics though
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:43:16
January 26 2012 22:41 GMT
#23
Not being a pokemon hipster/blinded by nostalgia and actually having played every gen of Pokémon, I'd be happy with any of them being used. Some of the new ones are shit (all of the Pidgey/Spearow clones spring to mind), some are interesting and have fun battle abilities/are cool (Arceus, Rotom being my favourites). Same as how some of the old ones were shit (Jynx and Mr. Mime immediately spring to mind). Never mind that if we just had the original 151, every team would be the same list of 4-5 pokemon with maybe 1 or 2 differences for flavour, but never anything too novel.

The thing is, in an MMORPG version of Pokémon they'd have to change shitloads about the game to make it not a case of just PvE grinding to level 100 on all your pokes after spamming eggs to get good IVs and natures. Plus ultra rare pokemon (Arceus and Darkrai being good examples) would either have to never be given out 'cause they can be so powerful...

I've often dreamed of a pokemon MMO, but whenever I've thought about how it'd actually be implemented, I've just ended up thinking it couldn't happen without changing what I love about the series.

EDIT: I should look into PWO again I guess, since last time I checked it was crap
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
January 26 2012 22:42 GMT
#24
They are introducing pet battles into world of warcraft. While it won't be a direct subsitute for pokemon, it will be a close replica that is likely to bring in a lot of pokemon fans.
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TheKerwin
Profile Joined November 2011
United States21 Posts
January 26 2012 22:44 GMT
#25
Funny that you mention this... the most successful mmo (World of Warcraft) is introducing a pet combat system in a similar likeness to pokémon in the next expansion. I know it's not the same, but a licensed Pokémon game won't happen any time soon.
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
January 26 2012 22:44 GMT
#26
Two factions only.

Horde Team Rocket Thugs
Alliance Pokemon Trainer Generation

savior & jaedong
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
January 26 2012 22:48 GMT
#27
The main premise of Pokemon is battling. You can already do that and Nintendo has been slowly improving it, although Nintendo doesn't care about competitive battling anyway.

Given this in mind, what does an MMORPG add to the experience? Nothing much. You can still battle each other, but can you imagine people camping for Pokemon spawns to catch them? Or grinding to level? How would Gyms and the rest of the world work? There's really just too much that takes away from a lot of the gameplay (ie: the nice thing you get from the "linearity") and too much of a pain to implement it properly)

Pokemon MMORPG IMO is a pretty bad idea.
AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
January 26 2012 22:50 GMT
#28
If it makes you feel any better, WoW is implementing pet battles in the next expansion. It's a direct ripoff of Pokemon so there's that at least until the real deal comes out.
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
January 26 2012 22:52 GMT
#29
On January 27 2012 07:32 Pandemona wrote:
I too have wondered like this, BUT do you think, if some company ever took this idea on and kept Nintendo up to date with it, cut them into the profits they would hook themselves in? I mean they have the structure there, half maybe even 3/4 of the work is done. Fanbase check RPG aspect check Pokemon check battle system check. Its crazy it just needs a push to the top and made bigger

Man i would love to see this, just like you. You have been waiting 10 years, me just over 6months of brewing in my mind. Maybe one day bro <3 one day

While there likely are third party companies that would undertake the endeavor, Nintendo is not known for licensing original franchise characters/games/content to the development of other companies. They like to keep their own hands on their product, or at the very least, on their most prominent titles of that product. mostly this is a good thing (and why the main Mario titles have likely kept up their quality for over 20 years... Shiggy doing his wonders of course).

Without going too much off topic, i think some of this holding very closely to their own products stems from Nintendo's original success in the early 80's after the video game crash. back then third party developers destroyed the quality of gaming as there was little regulation on game releases and the quality for many games was terrible as they wanted to cash in on the video game craze. The mass production of shitty games eventually led to the market tanking. Nintendo revived faith in console gaming by requiring third parties to go through rigorous processes to release games for their system which may be some cause for them not liking other people's hands on their things.

Also as someone else mentioned I believe, the target audience for Pokemon is young kids, which also leads to problems for age-rating their game as I'm sure you can imagine.

Some day an MMO, or something else similar and large scale, will come to Pokemon fans, though I don't think it will be in the near future unfortunately. I think there needs to be a change in business philosophy itself for that to likely happen, and that sort of change can take a long time.

When that day comes... hopefully they don't screw it up!
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 26 2012 22:57 GMT
#30
On January 27 2012 07:48 Milkis wrote:
The main premise of Pokemon is battling. You can already do that and Nintendo has been slowly improving it, although Nintendo doesn't care about competitive battling anyway.

Given this in mind, what does an MMORPG add to the experience? Nothing much. You can still battle each other, but can you imagine people camping for Pokemon spawns to catch them? Or grinding to level? How would Gyms and the rest of the world work? There's really just too much that takes away from a lot of the gameplay (ie: the nice thing you get from the "linearity") and too much of a pain to implement it properly)

Pokemon MMORPG IMO is a pretty bad idea.


Yeah i understand your point. But the game basis is PvP based. You get a Pokemon game now, i have most of them. You beat all the Gym Leaders whilst following the story through, you get all 8 badges (16 in some) complete the story, go battle the Elite Four and your done, just sat with Pokemon you have leveled through out the game and have no other option. In the DS versions you can now battle over WiFi connections vs other people. But all the people you will ever face have maxed out level 100 Pokemon, so unless you grind yourself to that level there is nothing more to Pokemon on DS/Gameboy

What can be a possibility though with an MMORPG, is people to chat too, physical battles to help level your Pokemon. Dueling people becomes a way of getting XP to help level. You get the 8Gym badges maybe 16 who knows, possibilities are endless in that category. You put the gyms basics in the excat same way as the other version. Level 20 Gym Level 30 etc etc as high as you want to go maybe every 5 levels. You can add in professions where you collect stuff in the game and give people to make Pokeballs or to sell items for lots of money. You can implement that as a farming exercise for professions. People camping for spawns of Pokemon would happen if you turned it into an online game you cant stop that people on wow for example camp for pet spawns, I don't have a problem with that personally.

When you get all the badges you will be at a certain level, you could even cap it at that level or make it 5 levels or so more, and then add in a PvP based function of Pokemon League, where every 1hour what ever you can join up and battle people and PvP your way through the league and get more rewards etc and a nice trophy.

To say its to much trouble to make this, is a bit of a lie surely? They have the basics there, everything they need to be able to work on it and within a year have a full game Beta running quite easily. But hey i was only dreaming
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
January 26 2012 23:23 GMT
#31
The fact that there isn't one yet points to GameFreak and Nintendo not being completely in it for the money. I get the feeling an MMO of Pokemon would blow everything out of the water easily.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
ssi.bal-listic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States568 Posts
January 26 2012 23:29 GMT
#32
OMG thats what i was thinking the whole time
Although im not an avid pokemon fan, I was wondering why Nintendo never released any pokemon mmorpg's (or maybe it did but we just don't know?)
"It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you" "The strong one doesn't win, the one that wins is strong"
Seth_
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Belgium184 Posts
January 26 2012 23:37 GMT
#33
They're just waiting for good virtual reality technology and progress in artificial intelligence.

Then we'll all get sucked into this game forever untill humankind dies out since everybody will be playing instead of working. (my solution to the Fermi Paradox)
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 26 2012 23:49 GMT
#34
...IdrA said that his progaming career would be ended by one of these... i understand why
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
January 27 2012 00:03 GMT
#35
On January 27 2012 07:14 Durp wrote:
Would this game allow me to join Team Rocket?
How about going on a Pikachu killing rampage?

If not, no dice.

edit; agreed with dude above me. The game must restrict to the first 150 pokemon (fuck Mew, seriously. Such a bitcH)

If you joined Team Rocket, do you start with a Meowth? I could imagine that being the only story line where you don't want to rip your ears off, since Meowth speaks english as opposed to high pitched squeaks



team rockets meowth is a special talking meowth, they dont all talk.



just sayin'
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 27 2012 00:11 GMT
#36
I like all the new pokemon i hate haters
cause haters gonna hate
and they gotta sk8
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 27 2012 00:38 GMT
#37
I'd give it a shot. Original 151 would be my preference, but I wouldn't mind the additional 100 (or was it additional 101?) of the second generation. Anything beyond that, toooo much.
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Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
January 27 2012 00:47 GMT
#38
I've dreamt of a Pokémon MMO for years; sadly, I think it's never happening.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 02:00:24
January 27 2012 01:57 GMT
#39
On January 27 2012 07:14 Durp wrote:
Would this game allow me to join Team Rocket?
How about going on a Pikachu killing rampage?

Hell yeah! Team Rocket could basically be like pirates in Eve, ambushing random people to steal their pokemon/loot.

Edit: Oh, and also instead of just having X amount of gyms, maybe each region has it's own system of gyms and leagues like in the actual pokemon (Johto, Orange Islands, etc.)
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
January 27 2012 02:46 GMT
#40
On January 27 2012 07:57 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:48 Milkis wrote:
The main premise of Pokemon is battling. You can already do that and Nintendo has been slowly improving it, although Nintendo doesn't care about competitive battling anyway.

Given this in mind, what does an MMORPG add to the experience? Nothing much. You can still battle each other, but can you imagine people camping for Pokemon spawns to catch them? Or grinding to level? How would Gyms and the rest of the world work? There's really just too much that takes away from a lot of the gameplay (ie: the nice thing you get from the "linearity") and too much of a pain to implement it properly)

Pokemon MMORPG IMO is a pretty bad idea.


Yeah i understand your point. But the game basis is PvP based. You get a Pokemon game now, i have most of them. You beat all the Gym Leaders whilst following the story through, you get all 8 badges (16 in some) complete the story, go battle the Elite Four and your done, just sat with Pokemon you have leveled through out the game and have no other option. In the DS versions you can now battle over WiFi connections vs other people. But all the people you will ever face have maxed out level 100 Pokemon, so unless you grind yourself to that level there is nothing more to Pokemon on DS/Gameboy

What can be a possibility though with an MMORPG, is people to chat too, physical battles to help level your Pokemon. Dueling people becomes a way of getting XP to help level. You get the 8Gym badges maybe 16 who knows, possibilities are endless in that category. You put the gyms basics in the excat same way as the other version. Level 20 Gym Level 30 etc etc as high as you want to go maybe every 5 levels. You can add in professions where you collect stuff in the game and give people to make Pokeballs or to sell items for lots of money. You can implement that as a farming exercise for professions. People camping for spawns of Pokemon would happen if you turned it into an online game you cant stop that people on wow for example camp for pet spawns, I don't have a problem with that personally.

When you get all the badges you will be at a certain level, you could even cap it at that level or make it 5 levels or so more, and then add in a PvP based function of Pokemon League, where every 1hour what ever you can join up and battle people and PvP your way through the league and get more rewards etc and a nice trophy.

To say its to much trouble to make this, is a bit of a lie surely? They have the basics there, everything they need to be able to work on it and within a year have a full game Beta running quite easily. But hey i was only dreaming


What I meant with camping pokemon bit is that you'll eventually have Pokemon being sold and there being an economy around it. I'm pretty sure nintendo wont like that one bit.
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