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HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
January 26 2012 18:22 GMT
#1
"Make me a coffee."
"No."
"sudo make me a coffee."
"Ok."


I am losing my mind. I'm in my Linux Server Administration course and I feel like I haven't learned anything at all after 3-4 weeks. I've failed two tests, barely scraped by on my project, and I doubt I'll retain any of it. It's such a frustrating operating system. It basically expects you to know precisely what you are doing at all times. This is rough in a self-paced school program. My teacher has sat with me to try to explain this stuff, and by the time he is done, my head is spinning like a top.

I get that it's extremely stable, flexible, and secure, but this has to be one of the most tedious things I've ever had to learn.

Why would you make things so complicated >_<

2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9538 Posts
January 26 2012 18:31 GMT
#2
You should play some BW to relax.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 18:34:19
January 26 2012 18:33 GMT
#3
Its not complicated (ok yes it is), its precise, that's the beauty of linux, the complexity of the system means you can tell it *exactly* what to do with no ambiguity. Yes that makes it hard to learn, and a lot of it is tedious, but learning how to use linux is one of the most useful skills I've picked up.

Trust me, its worth learning, the best way to make yourself learn is to replace all your OS with linux so you *have* to learn how to use it properly. Setup a minecraft server, I guarantee you'll learn a ton in the process, the best way to learn linux is to make it do all the awesome things you want to do. That's how I learned at least
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munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
January 26 2012 19:29 GMT
#4
Err... Linux really isn't that complicated compared to Windows when you look under the hood. To make a car analogy, it's kind of like the difference between a motorcycle engine and a car engine. Linux is the motorcycle, Windows is the car. For most people, Windows is easier to use, just like a car is easier to drive. But when something goes wrong, with Linux it's much easier to understand and fix the problem, just like it's easier to understand and work on a motorcycle engine.
Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
January 26 2012 19:30 GMT
#5
I find that people who try and learn Linux and don't come from a programming background have a very difficult time. Lots of the Linux command arguments follow a very specific logic, which programming in general teaches to yo be pendantic about. And sadly, that is what you have to do in Linux. Nothing wrong with that, its just the way it is.

I agree with doing something with it yourself. Setting up a Minecraft server is a great idea. I ended up setting up creating a fileserver for my house that ran on linux. You will quickly find that you have no idea what to do in a certain situation, and as tempting it is to look it up on an internet forum, I would recommend really trying and learning from the man pages. Tough to stomach at first but very useful once you get the hang of it.
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
January 26 2012 19:47 GMT
#6
Out of all my classes from 6 years of college, my Linux (red hat fedora with Gnome/KDE gui) was probably one of my favorites out of the 160-180 credits I took. I got really good with doing all the assignments in the Linux terminal thing.

I mean not trying to be a dick however if you're already failing tests only a few weeks in, then you should probably just drop the course now as it will probably get more advanced into networking/setting IPs/Ports/etc.

Aren't you just learning the basics on how to like add/remove/copy files and shit? o.o

I dunno man everytime I had a problem I just read the book or googled it. Good luck.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
January 26 2012 20:13 GMT
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HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
January 26 2012 20:30 GMT
#8
On January 27 2012 04:47 Nizzy wrote:
Out of all my classes from 6 years of college, my Linux (red hat fedora with Gnome/KDE gui) was probably one of my favorites out of the 160-180 credits I took. I got really good with doing all the assignments in the Linux terminal thing.

I mean not trying to be a dick however if you're already failing tests only a few weeks in, then you should probably just drop the course now as it will probably get more advanced into networking/setting IPs/Ports/etc.

Aren't you just learning the basics on how to like add/remove/copy files and shit? o.o

I dunno man everytime I had a problem I just read the book or googled it. Good luck.


I took Linux Fundamentals before and scraped by with 70%. Even that course was intense. Server administration on Server 2008 was a walk in the park by comparison for me. It just feels like trying to learn another language in 3 weeks with little to no help. Blarg
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
January 27 2012 00:00 GMT
#9
Take a spare machine and trying installing Gentoo or Arch. The documentation walks you through step by step what to do, and in the process you get used to navigating your way around with the terminal. Then at the end you get the satisfaction of booting up a fresh new OS that you've tinkered with extensively.
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