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This pledge emphasizes pragmatism, accountability and integrity.
This is not for everyone. This is for the members of the community that strive to improve eSports.
I will support my favorite tournaments to the fullest, expressing my support in whatever medium is available, and whenever it is financially viable.
I will inform their sponsors, when I am convinced that the tournament could not otherwise have been possible and when I feel strongly enough, that their support is invaluable, and as a viewer and supporter whole-heartedly hope that they continue to sponsor like events and future tournaments.
I will never unfairly criticize a tournament, but will give constructive advice when feedback is asked for. I will recommend my favorite casters, and always RESPECT the current casters, whether I support them or not.
I will never hack. I will never stream cheat.
I will cheer for my favorite player, watch their stream and games whenever possible.
(This includes tweeting them, posting in their fanclub, LR thread, facebooking, watching live, etc.)
I will never knowingly berate, pester, insult, or jeer a player, whether in-game, on a forum, or IRL.
I will contribute with whatever talents I feel can further the community and eSports. I will not be a lurker. I will be active in discussions and voice my opinions in a RESPECTFUL manner. I will create content.
I will not stand idly by, leeching off of others. I will be a do-er.
I understand by failing to uphold any of these promises I am doing injustice to myself, my favorite players, teams, casters as well as fellow community members.
- Signed
mizU
 
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wtf everything in that list that you just agreed to not do is what makes sc2 fun..
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No jeering? Not for me. Sorry.
Loser.
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-Signed
Lemonayd
I wish I could have this written on a poster. I would hang it above my computer so everytime I look up it would be there.
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Uhhhg. Where is the accountability and integrity if you can't criticise players and casters and teams and the like? It can't just be constructive criticism here. If you have this kind of attitude you will get shitty products because everyone sucks it up and doesn't actually avoid poorly organized tournaments. I suppose it depends on how far you think you can go with constructive criticism. "I didn't like that the casters did not know what they were talking about, the players were not on time, and the production values were incredibly poor for dadadada." Which is more easily summed up by "it sucked and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone or want to watch anything by them again." I definitely dislike this attitude of supporting something no matter what or being purely positive while ignoring negatives, because this is after all a business and if people are going to buy things no matter what, there's no incentive to improve since improving costs time and money.
OSL and Proleague and everything are so good because they were under heavy criticism in their formative years. The public had not yet even begun to really accept video games and you had to put up a damn good effort to make them believe there was something to what you were doing, and that you were improving. It's not the same now, when video games have become so much more popular and the teenagers of yesterday are the 20 something market of today. There's a lot of quick buck programs going on right now that are not going to improve, and esports fans need to be conscientious of that.
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United States12125 Posts
On January 26 2012 09:35 Chef wrote:
Uhhhg. Where is the accountability and integrity if you can't criticise players and casters and teams and the like? It can't just be constructive criticism here. If you have this kind of attitude you will get shitty products because everyone sucks it up and doesn't actually avoid poorly organized tournaments. I suppose it depends on how far you think you can go with constructive criticism. "I didn't like that the casters did not know what they were talking about, the players were not on time, and the production values were incredibly poor for dadadada." Which is more easily summed up by "it sucked and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone or want to watch anything by them again." I definitely dislike this attitude of supporting something no matter what or being purely positive while ignoring negatives, because this is after all a business and if people are going to buy things no matter what, there's no incentive to improve since improving costs time and money.
OSL and Proleague and everything are so good because they were under heavy criticism in their formative years. The public had not yet even begun to really accept video games and you had to put up a damn good effort to make them believe there was something to what you were doing, and that you were improving. It's not the same now, when video games have become so much more popular and the teenagers of yesterday are the 20 something market of today. There's a lot of quick buck programs going on right now that are not going to improve, and esports fans need to be conscientious of that.
I wasn't really saying everything should be fluffy pretty rainbows and sparkly. I was leaning more towards people should actually have the point of improving something rather than just ranting.
It was more the tone than just content. Like:
The players missed all of their games because the tournament organizers kept changing the times.
What can be done about this retroactively? Not too much. What can be done about this proactively for next time? Make sure the schedule is more concrete OR have people with the players to inform them, etc.
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WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
STUPID ASS TOURNAMENT never watching again shit like that should never happen in a tournament fucking retards
HUK couldn't play cuz this tournament is retarded
Understand?
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"I will never knowingly berate, pester, insult, or jeer a player, whether in-game, on a forum, or IRL. "
To an extent I dislike that. When a player makes a dumb mistake, I'm gonna point it out, and if I do it in a mean way, I don't really care.
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No, because in my eyes if it isn't a minor failure you need to punish them by not watching next time and telling others not to. Other organizers can learn from their mistakes, but they have had their chance and pissed it away with bad planning and wasting their viewers' time. I'm saying it shouldn't be forgiven so easily with hopes of slight improvements (which is really the talk of shills and terrible vendors, if you have experience with those). I think it's altogether too generous when there should be a high level of competition given the large number of tournaments. These aren't the days of the first TSL when everything was highly experimental and there hadn't been anything like it before. We're well past the point where amateur mistakes have to be a part of the territory (even though TSL was highly polished save for some delays in start time).
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