First 3 days back to SC2 ladder/progression.

R4ptur3d

Canada206 Posts

January 20 2012 08:43 GMT

Well from my last blog I had stated that I was getting crapped on by bronze league players and what not. I was pretty fucking beaten up about this shit at first, I had to just shrug it off.

I did not play at all today due having to help out the family back for their skidooing trip to Hudson Bay. I have the 3 dogs keeping me company tonight while I write this. Anyway back to the progression period. I was able to play 30ish games, Its not an unbelievable number but I have other thing going on as stated above. I really really want to play more and I'm just to tired to do so tonight, Its one o'clock in the morning.

I was able to finish my placement matches going into my terrible 2-3 record getting placed into mid silver. After a couple games I regained my ability to actually play slightly. I was not horrendously missing timings or messing up macro so pretty much the last 25 games or so have been straight wins, I got a couple losses to 4gates and what not. The funniest thing is I still haven't been promoted and its kind of egging me on since I should probably start playing people who are maybe closer to diamond. Not like diamond is great or anything, but being out of the loop has me not to clear on what the skill levels are like. It is terribly easy right now.

I've noticed a couple of my problems so far and I'm going to make a note of them in this blog. First off my Macro is fine on till I hit a Third base. I need more experience at this level in the game so I can fully understand what to have to spend my money on. BANK IS TO DAMN FULL. This may also have to do with my failure tech wise where I don't stray far from Gateway units. I actually don't like playing with colossi and sometimes i opt to try and go heavy gateway/force field type stuff. Fragile but a lot of fun. I see a bit of truth in this style but I cannot be for certain.

As of right now I'm super comfortable playing in PvZ, my friend ProdiG said its really no surprise it can be a fairly hard match up for Zerg. My PvT is not bad either, I just have to watch for those stupid stim timings I haven't seen. PvP could be better as all I know how to do is defence or offence 4gate my way to victory. I might have to take a look at some PvP VODs and absorb some damn knowledge.

I'm also having problems with how I should use my observers properly. Should I just leave 1 with my army, let one roam and let one follow their army? I tend to lose track of them if I overlap the hotkey. I better just start setting them key 8 to key 0 so I don't lose them so easily

As my final thoughts, This game is the best and I do enjoy playing it. I'm starting to enjoy the frustration and the whole pulling out my hair thing when everything I do doesn't go right or i miss a pylon haha.

Thanks to anyone who reads, Leave a comment if you want and be as nice as possible

have a good night all!~

-R4ptur3d

Solidarity

United States78 Posts

January 20 2012 08:55 GMT

As for your observers, leaving them positioned strategically around the map in order to see where and when the opponent moves out is invaluable information (of course, after you've gotten the intel you need from their main). As for PvP, it is definitely in your favor to learn the big three builds and their many variations (3 gate robo, blink, and phoenix). You'll definitely find that as you move on up through the ladder, your opponents will start having builds that are an assured counter to the most vicious of four gates.

It is hard to keep your money low on three bases. Hell, it's hard to keep it low on two. At the very least, don't concentrate so hard on keeping your money down on three bases, but moreso on having so many production buildings that if you're sitting on 200/200 for an extended period of time that when the big engagement comes, you have the necessary amount of robotics facilities and gateways to very quickly jolt back up to 200/200. By three saturated bases as Protoss you should also essentially have all useful tech (blink, upgrades, templar/storm, stuff like that).

tl;dr: On three bases, have tons and tons of production buildings and snatch up that tech. Learn more builds for PvP, you can't 4 gate forever

R4ptur3d

Canada206 Posts

January 20 2012 09:36 GMT

On January 20 2012 17:55 Solidarity wrote:
As for your observers, leaving them positioned strategically around the map in order to see where and when the opponent moves out is invaluable information (of course, after you've gotten the intel you need from their main). As for PvP, it is definitely in your favor to learn the big three builds and their many variations (3 gate robo, blink, and phoenix). You'll definitely find that as you move on up through the ladder, your opponents will start having builds that are an assured counter to the most vicious of four gates.

It is hard to keep your money low on three bases. Hell, it's hard to keep it low on two. At the very least, don't concentrate so hard on keeping your money down on three bases, but moreso on having so many production buildings that if you're sitting on 200/200 for an extended period of time that when the big engagement comes, you have the necessary amount of robotics facilities and gateways to very quickly jolt back up to 200/200. By three saturated bases as Protoss you should also essentially have all useful tech (blink, upgrades, templar/storm, stuff like that).

tl;dr: On three bases, have tons and tons of production buildings and snatch up that tech. Learn more builds for PvP, you can't 4 gate forever

Thanks for the information, Once I start having trouble in games I play hopefully people will be willing to maybe take a look at this stuff for me in a replay or something. I'm sure that people don't want to really look at a lower tier players play, but maybe ill get lucky

. Im going to learn those 3 builds and see what I can do about PvP. Such a bothersome match up T.T.

Solidarity

United States78 Posts

January 21 2012 02:53 GMT

I know exactly where you're coming from on the PvP front. One of the biggest mistakes you can do in that matchup at a low level is try to expand. The investment for trying to expand in a PvP doesn't pay for itself most of the time, because there has to be a ton of containment and harassment in order to pull it off. It's hard to give the advice to one base religiously, but in PvP it will likely cost you to try and expand. As for your replays, people are always willing to help if you come with real concerns and provide a replay of a game where you saw a strategy or a style that may have totally thrown you through a loop. Also, don't be a stranger to the Protoss "help me" thread. A lot of good stuff in there.

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