EPTMindgames in GSL *spoiler* - Page 4
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sicajung
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CTFullstop
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-Kaiser-
Canada932 Posts
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jpank
United States23 Posts
Not everything is as it seems. | ||
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oFFoy
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Swap
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
On January 11 2012 09:26 chenchen wrote: The second depot is actually very very late in a normal gasless 1 rax FE. As far as I understand, you want to plot down the second CC well before your second depot. Wha? No it's not. If you did CC before 2nd depot you would get supply blocked at 19 supply and have a very hard time holding off early pressure. You can even just look at the basic build order in Liquipedia if you're unsure: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/1_Rax_FE | ||
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Notfragile
Greece713 Posts
The supernova vs MC one was obvious. I am honestly surprised the "show no gas + 1 bunker on low ground" is not used more ofter, since it's so easy and harmless to do. The ForGG vs MC one was delicious. Fast 3rd CC against a player known not to forgive greed requires well a well planned strat and balls of steel. The MC vs Leenock one was astonishing. As a matter of fact I play zerg and I deal with those timings all the time and yes, 5 zealots moving across map, no sentries, +1 done is definately a 4gate +1. I mean the other two games were mindgames. This one was deception at it's best. Extremelly well disguised attack. When watching live I was mad with Leenock's greed who made only 1 spine. Now I realised how it looked from Leenock's perspective... and it looked nothing like an all-in. Congrats to MC!! | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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pjw
Australia76 Posts
On January 11 2012 15:43 0neder wrote: pwj, youtube 'Casey fake FFE' on youtube and then come back and tell me that such clever tricks don't deserve a victory. =) The first time it deserves a victory. When stuff like this is repeated over and over and over again then it will just be a cointoss. It's not even that smart, it's essentially baiting. Seriously, just because this guy made a pretty post people are lapping this stuff up as some sort of amazing feat. This happens multiple times in every quake duel on a decent level. The only difference is a game isnt always decided after one wrong guess. I really hope this kind of thing eventually fades out for more methodical play(see supernova vs Leenock) as not only is it boring to watch, it's miserable to see clearly more talented players get 'metagamed' | ||
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Scrandom
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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Lunchador
United States776 Posts
On January 11 2012 13:53 sickoota wrote: You can only dress up coinflipping so much, sorry. If mindgames alone can dictate 4 out of every 5 games that is not a good place for a game to be in competitively. Denying scouting and putting a bunker on the lowground isn't some revolutionary, highly intelligent play, its just praying that dumb luck will favor you based on a couple of replays you watched of your competitor and it makes for a horrid spectator experience. You know, all competitions in life are all about the mind games. Fighting games, card games, physical sports, and even ye olde fist fight can be broken down to a mindgame, or that "coinflip" you so like to use. | ||
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Valckrie
United Kingdom533 Posts
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
Ive come across a few terrans who fake an expo with a bunker on the low ground. They usually die to my 1 gate expo into 3 gate pressure(does get a bit close sometimes) if i remember correctly after warpgate finished all Supernova had was 1 bunker with 4 marines on the low ground. all his other production buildings were constructing addons. At this point i thought MC's pressure would come, bust the bunker and he would throw down a robo asap after that, but for whatever reason it was slower.. (i remember MC walking units across the map instead of a proxy pylon) Protoss's need to tweak there builds so pressure comes before cloaked banshees if they havent actually seen a CC going down. Any sort of pressure will either bust the bunker or notify you that something is wrong. No other units & no scvs pulled, at this point you must throw down a Robo asap | ||
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Burns
United States2300 Posts
good job | ||
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
That was great | ||
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pampelmus
Switzerland215 Posts
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ThisWillBEz
United States120 Posts
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Flew
United Kingdom133 Posts
Well written and interesting to read, thanks. | ||
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