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On December 28 2011 07:25 HaruHaru wrote: if sc2 came out first, esports would not exist
Yup cause WC3, CS, CoD, Halo, Dota wouldn't exist if it weren't for BW....... and ofc BW was so huge outside Korea that it had a massive impact on the western esports scene and without it, there would be no such thing......
If sc2 came out first, you have no idea what would have happened.
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Wouldn't play it. UI just sucks. Sorry guys.
More relevantly if we had had 10 years of SC2 patches and metagame improvement early SC1 AND the UI shittieness would make sc1 a nonstarter
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And on the first day god said let thy be sc2 and there was. And on the second day god said let thy be sc:bw. O wait wrong book sorry brb.
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On December 28 2011 05:53 Sm3agol wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 05:44 XsebT wrote: Do you guys honestly think the only reason we play bw is because of nostalgia? Yes. If BW came out right now, and Sc2 was "SC1"...would you play it? i play a good amount of BW right now. and i never heard of the game until months after i played SC2.
explain that to me please?
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Plenty of people played or even switched to BW from SC2, most don't seem to have a problem with it.
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On December 28 2011 05:29 butchji wrote: Everybody would be like: "Yeah, a game where I have to click workers individually to start mining - where there is no way to regain the health of my marines after I stimmed. Also very good that I have to click every single barracks to build marines and click on every single barracks + every single location to change the waypoint... and..."
Dude did you hear about medics? xD
On topic: daaamn i would whine.
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One thing I don't think a lot of the sc2 community realizes is that before the ANNOUNCEMENT of sc2, teamliquid was quite a small place even relative to what it was may 2007-beta, much less to what it is now. Most of the people who are in the BW section nowadays are not old timers who have been on tl pre 2007 and are watching/playing bw for some nostalgic purpose (even though that's bullshit too.) They are (mostly) people who came to the bw scene because they were hyped for sc2 and it disappointed.
To address the OP, I doubt it would have turned into what BW turned into in korea. With things like no chat channels / LAN / making internet cafes pay $ to blizzard to run their game and so on it wouldn't have had a chance. That is disregarding the superior gameplay element all together.
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On December 28 2011 05:32 juked wrote: SC2 would most likely win because it has so many things (mechanically wise) that makes it easier and seems like it should be there.
ex. Boxing 100 unis compared to 12
And I agree with floor exercise. That's why I'm shocked that SC2BW hasn't really taken off. If you say.... remade Brood War but with the same easier mechanics as SC2 and minor balance tweaks to compensate for this, then you'd see a beautiful e-sport.
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On December 28 2011 09:55 Clbull wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 05:32 juked wrote: SC2 would most likely win because it has so many things (mechanically wise) that makes it easier and seems like it should be there.
ex. Boxing 100 unis compared to 12
And I agree with floor exercise. That's why I'm shocked that SC2BW hasn't really taken off. If you say.... remade Brood War but with the same easier mechanics as SC2 and minor balance tweaks to compensate for this, then you'd see a beautiful e-sport.
That's because SC2BW is a random custom map on the SC2 engine and Brood War is Brood War. They are nowhere near the same thing.
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On December 28 2011 10:05 Daozzt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 09:55 Clbull wrote:On December 28 2011 05:32 juked wrote: SC2 would most likely win because it has so many things (mechanically wise) that makes it easier and seems like it should be there.
ex. Boxing 100 unis compared to 12
And I agree with floor exercise. That's why I'm shocked that SC2BW hasn't really taken off. If you say.... remade Brood War but with the same easier mechanics as SC2 and minor balance tweaks to compensate for this, then you'd see a beautiful e-sport. That's because SC2BW is a random custom map on the SC2 engine and Brood War is Brood War. They are nowhere near the same thing.
Can you elaborate on why it can't work as a custom map in sc2? Dota comes to mind.
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People would love the new bnet
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On December 28 2011 10:46 JoelE wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 10:05 Daozzt wrote:On December 28 2011 09:55 Clbull wrote:On December 28 2011 05:32 juked wrote: SC2 would most likely win because it has so many things (mechanically wise) that makes it easier and seems like it should be there.
ex. Boxing 100 unis compared to 12
And I agree with floor exercise. That's why I'm shocked that SC2BW hasn't really taken off. If you say.... remade Brood War but with the same easier mechanics as SC2 and minor balance tweaks to compensate for this, then you'd see a beautiful e-sport. That's because SC2BW is a random custom map on the SC2 engine and Brood War is Brood War. They are nowhere near the same thing. Can you elaborate on why it can't work as a custom map in sc2? Dota comes to mind.
because pathing doesn't work the same and you can't muta or vulture micro
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BW is so big becuase of how hard it is to play, how does it make sense to make it easier to play? isnt that what the B side keeps saying is wrong with SC2?
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