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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 27 2011 22:41 GMT
#41
On December 28 2011 07:25 HaruHaru wrote:
if sc2 came out first, esports would not exist


Yup cause WC3, CS, CoD, Halo, Dota wouldn't exist if it weren't for BW....... and ofc BW was so huge outside Korea that it had a massive impact on the western esports scene and without it, there would be no such thing......

If sc2 came out first, you have no idea what would have happened.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
December 27 2011 22:46 GMT
#42
Wouldn't play it. UI just sucks. Sorry guys.

More relevantly if we had had 10 years of SC2 patches and metagame improvement early SC1 AND the UI shittieness would make sc1 a nonstarter
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 27 2011 22:49 GMT
#43
And on the first day god said let thy be sc2 and there was. And on the second day god said let thy be sc:bw. O wait wrong book sorry brb.
Greed leads to just about all losses.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
December 27 2011 23:12 GMT
#44
On December 28 2011 05:53 Sm3agol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 05:44 XsebT wrote:
Do you guys honestly think the only reason we play bw is because of nostalgia?

Yes. If BW came out right now, and Sc2 was "SC1"...would you play it?

i play a good amount of BW right now. and i never heard of the game until months after i played SC2.

explain that to me please?
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 23:28:39
December 27 2011 23:27 GMT
#45
Plenty of people played or even switched to BW from SC2, most don't seem to have a problem with it.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 00:02:08
December 28 2011 00:01 GMT
#46
On December 28 2011 05:29 butchji wrote:
Everybody would be like: "Yeah, a game where I have to click workers individually to start mining - where there is no way to regain the health of my marines after I stimmed. Also very good that I have to click every single barracks to build marines and click on every single barracks + every single location to change the waypoint... and..."


Dude did you hear about medics? xD

On topic: daaamn i would whine.
I am Latedi.
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
December 28 2011 00:06 GMT
#47
One thing I don't think a lot of the sc2 community realizes is that before the ANNOUNCEMENT of sc2, teamliquid was quite a small place even relative to what it was may 2007-beta, much less to what it is now. Most of the people who are in the BW section nowadays are not old timers who have been on tl pre 2007 and are watching/playing bw for some nostalgic purpose (even though that's bullshit too.) They are (mostly) people who came to the bw scene because they were hyped for sc2 and it disappointed.

To address the OP, I doubt it would have turned into what BW turned into in korea. With things like no chat channels / LAN / making internet cafes pay $ to blizzard to run their game and so on it wouldn't have had a chance. That is disregarding the superior gameplay element all together.
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 00:56:52
December 28 2011 00:55 GMT
#48
On December 28 2011 05:32 juked wrote:
SC2 would most likely win because it has so many things (mechanically wise) that makes it easier and seems like it should be there.

ex. Boxing 100 unis compared to 12

And I agree with floor exercise.

That's why I'm shocked that SC2BW hasn't really taken off. If you say.... remade Brood War but with the same easier mechanics as SC2 and minor balance tweaks to compensate for this, then you'd see a beautiful e-sport.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
December 28 2011 01:05 GMT
#49
On December 28 2011 09:55 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 05:32 juked wrote:
SC2 would most likely win because it has so many things (mechanically wise) that makes it easier and seems like it should be there.

ex. Boxing 100 unis compared to 12

And I agree with floor exercise.

That's why I'm shocked that SC2BW hasn't really taken off. If you say.... remade Brood War but with the same easier mechanics as SC2 and minor balance tweaks to compensate for this, then you'd see a beautiful e-sport.


That's because SC2BW is a random custom map on the SC2 engine and Brood War is Brood War. They are nowhere near the same thing.
JoelE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States112 Posts
December 28 2011 01:46 GMT
#50
On December 28 2011 10:05 Daozzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 09:55 Clbull wrote:
On December 28 2011 05:32 juked wrote:
SC2 would most likely win because it has so many things (mechanically wise) that makes it easier and seems like it should be there.

ex. Boxing 100 unis compared to 12

And I agree with floor exercise.

That's why I'm shocked that SC2BW hasn't really taken off. If you say.... remade Brood War but with the same easier mechanics as SC2 and minor balance tweaks to compensate for this, then you'd see a beautiful e-sport.


That's because SC2BW is a random custom map on the SC2 engine and Brood War is Brood War. They are nowhere near the same thing.


Can you elaborate on why it can't work as a custom map in sc2? Dota comes to mind.
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 28 2011 02:13 GMT
#51
People would love the new bnet
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Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 02:14:37
December 28 2011 02:13 GMT
#52
oops
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
December 28 2011 02:17 GMT
#53
On December 28 2011 10:46 JoelE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 10:05 Daozzt wrote:
On December 28 2011 09:55 Clbull wrote:
On December 28 2011 05:32 juked wrote:
SC2 would most likely win because it has so many things (mechanically wise) that makes it easier and seems like it should be there.

ex. Boxing 100 unis compared to 12

And I agree with floor exercise.

That's why I'm shocked that SC2BW hasn't really taken off. If you say.... remade Brood War but with the same easier mechanics as SC2 and minor balance tweaks to compensate for this, then you'd see a beautiful e-sport.


That's because SC2BW is a random custom map on the SC2 engine and Brood War is Brood War. They are nowhere near the same thing.


Can you elaborate on why it can't work as a custom map in sc2? Dota comes to mind.


because pathing doesn't work the same and you can't muta or vulture micro
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
December 28 2011 02:38 GMT
#54
BW is so big becuase of how hard it is to play, how does it make sense to make it easier to play? isnt that what the B side keeps saying is wrong with SC2?
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