I would succgest you to invest in Quality and not Quantity. Therfor forget all the random crap people advise like H&M & such. If you are looking for a big change and look really DECENT I recommend you Hugo Boss for jeans & armani (125 /175€). Same thing with Hilfiger for anything else. Any decent italian leather jacket cobined with armani shoes. This might be a little bit over the top and you'll need time to get used to it, as it is a big change from your casual wardrobe toi have!
You will look classy and attract attention around you. Rotterdam will look miserable, as he is dutch and dutch people are usually miserable looking because they hate spending money and tend to stick to orange anyway
hahahahah, best post in the thread by far.
LOL! Best advice in this thread, that and the one from Iceland explaining accessories. But tbh if you wanna look professional I recommend looking at facial hair/hairstyle too. Jinro looked like a bum hairwise before he went to Korea, now he looks like the fucking Gorilla Terran!
My best advice as a fashionable swedish guy(yeah, we dress best in Europe!) is to enter a store with nice brands such as Hugo Boss, Tiger of Sweden, J.Lindeberg etc.. And ask the ppl working there to help you, they will make u try a lot of stuff and if you like it, buy it! The trick is to take your time, they won't give you clothes that you like every time. Maybe not even half of the time.
It's always healthy to do some research on cloth sites on the web, look for brands you like etc.. But typically Italian and North European brands equals fashionable and professional.
On December 21 2011 02:24 trias_e wrote: Don't worry about it. My only rule is to make sure my clothes fit and are clean, and inside this rule I wear whatever the hell I want without regard to anyone's opinion (note this doesn't apply to work/interviews, obviously).. There are far more important things to worry about in life. If you like to wear hoodies, wear em and be happy about it!
Normally I'd agree with you, but given the way e-sports is growing, I occasionally find myself in positions where how I'm perceived can have significant effects on not just me, but on our industry.
In other words: I don't want to cast a bad image on gamers because I'm always walking around in a hoody, and ten-year-old jeans. Some sponsors will never take us seriously if that's how we present ourselves.
On December 20 2011 23:27 MrBitter wrote: Ah, cool. Some really nice advice here.
People really don't like the facial hair, eh?
Fuck, I'm out of touch.
Oh, and I forgot to mention: Those specific shops for men often have people saying "Guys I don't know shit please help me" and they will help you for free and even take you to other shops sometimes, so just find a good one in your area and you can even get professional advice. You might need a translator though because I'm not sure if you want to deal with the average german's english.
This is rapidly becoming a truly epic thread. So much great advice.
I think I need to plan a shopping date with my wife at a Herrenausstatter sometime soon. Anyone else in the Düsseldorf/Köln area? Maybe we can do a mass manly fashion TL meetup :D
Edit: By the way, for formal occasions there's really nothing more excellent than a top hat. I have a real (read: €300-ish) top hat that I got for my wedding, and it's just the most awesome thing ever.
Something maybe like this? All you really need is a nice pair of well fitted jeans, a nice top (could be a sweater of some sort, button up, even flannel, or just a nice plain tee like in the pic), and nice jacket to complete the look! Good luck yo, you should post pics when you get a new outfit or something.
I'd say a nice pair of fitted slacks, any Docs or anything like that should do nicely.
I primarily wear dark ones / shades of grey / black, they tend to go with a lot of things and can look well in most situations. But a few pairs of light ones can't hurt.
As far as shirts go, like a lot of people have said, long sleeved button down shirts look the sharpest, but roll up the sleeves, or leave a few top ones unbuttoned to not look like a frumperton. Van Heusen makes great looking (and affordable) business shirts like that, that look good enough to wear out for the evening, but also not expensive, so you're worried about wearing them and spilling something on them.
I realize you said you were looking around cologne, but i'm not sure of the brands there (it's been too long since i was in germany for a summer ).
A pair of nice shoes won't have a deep shine to them, here's where i tend to struggle the most, so i'll let someone else take care of it.
As far as watches go, don't get a rolex or a folex, unless you want to spend a ton on watches. If you're wearing a rolex, and your regular clothes, people will realize it's fake or they'll think you waste your money on stuff.
Get a Seiko, or a Citizen (in the US, generally $150-500. But, since both are Japanese, I'm pretty sure. They have some EXTREMELY dignified & business like styles, that are very understated, which i love, and they don't break the bank like an actual rolex would. Plus, you can wear them around without worrying that you'll bust them up.
On the note of facial hair: If you've got a well defined Jawline, then it can be a nice little addition (if you have a little stubble). Either that, or grow a full blown beard. Don't grow something out half-assed and expect to look good. (Think the "cool" guy from the hangover, either that amount of stubble, or go zack galafernakis).
Little accesorries like watches can go a long way into helping complete an ensemble, if you're 90% of the way there, people can overlook a mediocre pair of shoes if you have a watch that just pops with it all.
Hope that helps at all. If you make it home to the states for Christmas, you can pick (all of) that stuff here.
Dockers: 20-50 a pair (depending on sales) Van Heusen: i usually get them ~$20 a shirt Citizen watch: 150-500
Just to ballpark a few of those things, that's what I wear to work every day, and I work at an investment bank, and look pretty good, IMO.
Springfield Last time I visited the Cathedral in Cologne there was a shop within 10min walking distance. I'm sure there are other stores in Cologne that are a bit cheaper than this.
I know your in Europe where skinny jeans are very popular. just remember skinny jeans were originally made to make girls legs look slimmer, not guys legs. But if you want to wear them, go for it (i think they look terrible, and secretly laugh at those that wear those pants).
If you want somethign casual yet stylish wear something like this.... Black blazer(or another color if you wish) Graphic T Jeans(nothing shredded unless it ends up looking really good) A pair of hushpuppies.(make sure they match the blazer or your going to get laughed at by people with actual fashion sense)
Also, you might to steer away from a shaved head unless you can pull off the bald look like khaldor. It just says lazyness all over.
I can't dress for shit either Mr.Bitter. But if you are doing something new years eve or something. Just get a black suit, black tie and a white shirt. That's just fine for the most part. Regular shoes is okay, even though classy shoes fits the suit better.
I'm in the same boat as you though, I absolutely have no idea what suits me well. Well except for the tie and suit.
best thing to do is to go around shops, for example a store where they only sell jeans ect... & just ask them what's really popular today & they will guide you around.
Now, I know a lot of people who wear only what's popular... But that doesn't mean it looks good on them. So don't go & make that mistake as well.
I personally somewhat have my own style when it comes to clothes.. Now, if I'd mention some brands in my possession (theory, diesel,...) people would say i'm following the fashion scene, well.. I'm not, i don't care what others wear but I do have some sort of taste & sense on what looks good on myself but I would never even try something that looks kind of silly imo or something that i'd be like i can't imagine myself wearing that even though it's really popular.. Then I just don't buy it.
Now, another option, for someone who doesn't have any sense in how to dress himself.. Is to take a look at how people dress themselves & just mix it up a bit.. Just make sure the mixing goes well together or you'd just make yourself look silly. Grab a fashion magazine (even though people would think it's mainly for women.. there are parts in those magazines where it's aimed for men so..) & just take a look at what's "in" today & read on what kind of shirts & jeans ect... are really the thing to wear nowadays & go from there.
My own brother had his girlfriend taking him all over the place for clothes.. So that's another option, let your girlfriend transform you but make sure you like it yourself because wearing something you don't like will make you look uneasy most of the time.. & that's not your goal.
EDIT: This isn't an exhaustive list, and I think people in this thread have already given you good advice, but your main goal here is how you look when you are at tournaments live, since for online tournaments most of the time you are not going to be on camera. As for whether you dress like a hobo when you go out with your bros drinking, well that shouldn't matter to you unless you are looking to meet someone. If you like the hobo look, stick with the hobo look when not working.
This site will be great for your look at tournaments. Frankly, most casters look ridiculous on camera because they are poor dressers. Tastosis wearing their handsome nerd shirts may be good product placement, but they don't look particularly good on camera. If you follow the advice from this site, you'll definitely be the best dressed caster (unless TLO decides to cast of course).
In terms of jeans, you should definitely find something slim fitting. NOT skinny jeans, or girl jeans...but not KawaiiRice jeans either. Levi's 514's have a nice, slim fit (for me anyway). That's my 2 cents Expect to spend about 50$ per pair
On December 21 2011 05:05 flowSthead wrote: So easy. Just use this site for all your fashion needs: http://artofmanliness.com/category/dress-grooming/ No joke, they have great articles about looking good.
EDIT: This isn't an exhaustive list, and I think people in this thread have already given you good advice, but your main goal here is how you look when you are at tournaments live, since for online tournaments most of the time you are not going to be on camera. As for whether you dress like a hobo when you go out with your bros drinking, well that shouldn't matter to you unless you are looking to meet someone. If you like the hobo look, stick with the hobo look when not working.
This site will be great for your look at tournaments. Frankly, most casters look ridiculous on camera because they are poor dressers. Tastosis wearing their handsome nerd shirts may be good product placement, but they don't look particularly good on camera. If you follow the advice from this site, you'll definitely be the best dressed caster (unless TLO decides to cast of course).
Hm, I personally love clean looks on guys, think it would work well with what you're looking for. I always get my guyfriends cardigans or sweaters from jcrew, they always have simple but classy looking clothes My brother works at bonobos and I've checked out some of their stuff, perfect for casual, clean looks. I'd recommend both of those~
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