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Protoss 6 Probe Rush - Too strong?

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Rucho
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 12:32:40
December 13 2011 12:13 GMT
#1
I was watching the GSL Blizzard cup just now and saw some great games. Unfortunately for+ Show Spoiler +
Naniwa - he quickly found himself tied for last place with Nestea, 0-3. In his desparation,
Naniwa broke out the forbidden, OP, and taboo build - the worker rush.

Obviously the only thing that had preserved the metagame so far was the progamers' gentlemen's agreement not to perform this tactic. with naniwa showing he's willing to do anything for a win, how will the spirit of competition in SC2 be preserved? will we have to go back to watching broodwar?

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antes los dollares eran bonitos, pero ahorra dollares ni ay
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
December 13 2011 12:16 GMT
#2
At least I can guarantee you that 5 worker rush is not OP at it.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Rucho
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 12:18 GMT
#3
this must be why all the BW guys tell me that BW competitions are better, with less cheese. In BW the worker rush is only 66% as strong since you start with less workers.
antes los dollares eran bonitos, pero ahorra dollares ni ay
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
December 13 2011 12:20 GMT
#4
Thanks for the spoiler
OGS:levelchange
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
December 13 2011 12:21 GMT
#5
On December 13 2011 21:18 Rucho wrote:
this must be why all the BW guys tell me that BW competitions are better, with less cheese. In BW the worker rush is only 66% as strong since you start with less workers.

Also in BW people don't randomly decide to throw a game no matter how dramatic it would be. Throwing a game like this in Proleague = insta-paycut.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Turbogangsta
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia319 Posts
December 13 2011 12:21 GMT
#6
when a player like naniwa can do this vers a player like nestea it really says something about the game. i propose that only 1 worker can leave the base and the rest are prevented by a forcefield that only affects workers. tho this forcefield cant affect oponents workers
Esports is killing Esports.
chingchong99
Profile Joined November 2011
Nauru64 Posts
December 13 2011 12:23 GMT
#7
So did he win?
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Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1254 Posts
December 13 2011 12:26 GMT
#8
On December 13 2011 21:23 chingchong99 wrote:
So did he win?

+ Show Spoiler +
no
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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
December 13 2011 12:30 GMT
#9
lmao
calm down.
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Rucho
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 12:31 GMT
#10
sorry guys this is my first blog, i intended it to be obviously facetious. hope you guys got a laugh. i chuckled while writing it
antes los dollares eran bonitos, pero ahorra dollares ni ay
NEgroidZerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States244 Posts
December 13 2011 12:33 GMT
#11
On December 13 2011 21:21 Turbogangsta wrote:
when a player like naniwa can do this vers a player like nestea it really says something about the game. i propose that only 1 worker can leave the base and the rest are prevented by a forcefield that only affects workers. tho this forcefield cant affect oponents workers


Why, and what does this "say about the game"?
Yeah
Imperium11
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States279 Posts
December 13 2011 12:42 GMT
#12
Nice spoiler. Thanks a lot man.
Turbogangsta
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia319 Posts
December 13 2011 12:52 GMT
#13
On December 13 2011 21:33 NEgroidZerg wrote:
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On December 13 2011 21:21 Turbogangsta wrote:
when a player like naniwa can do this vers a player like nestea it really says something about the game. i propose that only 1 worker can leave the base and the rest are prevented by a forcefield that only affects workers. tho this forcefield cant affect oponents workers


Why, and what does this "say about the game"?


=] got ya
Esports is killing Esports.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
December 13 2011 13:05 GMT
#14
the 6 worker rush is fine what Nani did was the 7 worker rush which is just on a whole other level and is almost taboo in Korea due to how strong it is (think 1-1-1 but you could warp in seige tanks using a protoss pylon)
NorthernRiver
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden107 Posts
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#15
It was only to give his opponet a fair chance of winning that Naniwa didn't micro the probes.
“All that we are is the result of what we have thought."
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37072 Posts
December 13 2011 14:35 GMT
#16
6 worker probe rush is not OP.

12 drone rush is OP
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:48:44
December 13 2011 15:47 GMT
#17
On December 13 2011 23:35 Seeker wrote:
6 worker probe rush is not OP.

12 drone rush is OP

Assuming that this is a serious comment, no.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Symmetry
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada294 Posts
December 13 2011 15:56 GMT
#18
I lol'd when I read the title. People are taking this too seriously and it's nice to see someone with a sense of humour.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
December 13 2011 16:13 GMT
#19
He could of at least did a proxy gateway rush 3 times in a row lol that would of been more interesting
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NEgroidZerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States244 Posts
December 13 2011 16:20 GMT
#20
On December 13 2011 21:21 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:18 Rucho wrote:
this must be why all the BW guys tell me that BW competitions are better, with less cheese. In BW the worker rush is only 66% as strong since you start with less workers.

Also in BW people don't randomly decide to throw a game no matter how dramatic it would be. Throwing a game like this in Proleague = insta-paycut.


How can you possibly think that comparison is fair? Proleague is designed to not have any games be meaningless.
Yeah
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 19:36:55
December 13 2011 19:32 GMT
#21
I saw a worker rush from a certain bw protoss and everybody thought he was a genius for winning it. Obviously done with more style and flair than naniwa's but this has been done before + Show Spoiler +
I know Naniwa lost but when you send all your workers at the start of the game generally you are SUPPOSED to lose.
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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
December 13 2011 19:42 GMT
#22
On December 14 2011 01:20 NEgroidZerg wrote:
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On December 13 2011 21:21 Djagulingu wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:18 Rucho wrote:
this must be why all the BW guys tell me that BW competitions are better, with less cheese. In BW the worker rush is only 66% as strong since you start with less workers.

Also in BW people don't randomly decide to throw a game no matter how dramatic it would be. Throwing a game like this in Proleague = insta-paycut.


How can you possibly think that comparison is fair? Proleague is designed to not have any games be meaningless.


if a team is locked into last place then all of their remaining games will be meaningless
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 19:55:17
December 13 2011 19:53 GMT
#23
sponsors wouldn't look kindly on throwing games. Let's not say throwing games, as that is more related to the betting scandal, etc. this is more of a case of "not giving a fuck" and putting 0 effort, and using a strat not likely to win at all. You could proxy 2 gate or 4 gate or whatever with same attitude yet those have a chance at winning. 12 drone rush can win as well, or worker rushing a terran and trying to stop barracks/supply depots from building, but no one is expected to win pvz with a probe rush ever.

so that's a pretty big deal; if you're a professional being sponsored by a company, you are expected to represent that sponsorship and act according to the code of conduct a professional would be--regardless of whether it's an ESPORT or golf or 0-15 detroit lions or whatever the fuck it is.

that's what being a professional is, if you're sponsored by something other than your own money.
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