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A Decent Proposal - Page 26

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Wargable
Profile Joined April 2011
United States107 Posts
November 23 2011 05:17 GMT
#501
Wow, this seriously made me feel a little guilty that I kind of take that sit back and let other people build up the community approach. Awesome write up, iNcontrol. Actually very inspiring, and it has me reflecting on the amazing times I've had at MLG, meeting players, and watching streams and tournaments with friends and getting so psyched about sick games and plays.

I'm gonna give promoting and supporting everyone more effort. Everyone who has staked their livelihood on this game deserves it!

<3 Starcraft 2!
"That brings my piss to a boil."
Zeddicus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States239 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 05:45:06
November 23 2011 05:43 GMT
#502
Excellent blog Incontrol. What he is proposing does not go unnoticed:

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xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
November 23 2011 06:29 GMT
#503
On November 23 2011 14:43 Zeddicus wrote:
Excellent blog Incontrol. What he is proposing does not go unnoticed:

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That's actually a great way to promote SC2. Referrals and word-of-mouth are invaluable.
BioGenie
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore10 Posts
November 23 2011 06:37 GMT
#504
Just got referred to your blog via a community that we've got down under... Glad to have read it and way to go mate! Cheers!
ubk
Profile Joined November 2010
15 Posts
November 23 2011 06:37 GMT
#505
Are you saying to go around telling ppl that I didn't go to that thing Friday night because I was too busy being beyond nerdy and just watched some dudes playing computer games? ...I wasn't even playing computer games, I was watching other people do it, ladies and gents of the jury. Really how did you introduced your inner geek to your gf (btw well played sir, she's a babe) ? Ware you like, I do waste enourmous amounts of time playing on my computer but, in my defence, showing value, I am kinda pwning, thats how sexy I are...

SC is such a high level of geek that very few can attend, just like chess. Are chess players pulling all the babes? Cose that's what you need to transform SC from a cult to mainstream. Koreans made BW sexy by building an Idol TV culture around some progamers, and pulling in heaps of female teenagers which in turn made it socially acceptable.

That is the recepy for every mainstream competitive activity, the Stars get the babes and kids grow up wanting to be them, and, them too gettin the babes in their tents eventually. Very cynical put, but true; I highly doubt you can make SC sexy in the west for multiple reasons.

TLDR : I too had a dream I was a rock'n'roll star

ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
November 23 2011 06:38 GMT
#506
if anyone watches sotg, you would know that incontrol is the biggest contributor. what he says
truly show his love for starcraft. tyler is also one that really listens intently and undetstand everything. same goes for idra, because he is so locked into his gameplay, he doesnt focus on these matters.

he sacrficed a major part of his gameplay to bring starcraft to north america. we all witness his slump due to his VOLUNTARY withdrawal from korea, he literally threw away the title of a code S GSL player and he did it in thought of INTERNATIOnAL esport, his faith held in foreign fans cannot be forgotten. imagine all the events without IdrA, what would it like today.
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
kammeyer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 07:00:42
November 23 2011 06:52 GMT
#507
On November 23 2011 15:37 ubk wrote:
Are you saying to go around telling ppl that I didn't go to that thing Friday night because I was too busy being beyond nerdy and just watched some dudes playing computer games? ...I wasn't even playing computer games, I was watching other people do it, ladies and gents of the jury. Really how did you introduced your inner geek to your gf (btw well played sir, she's a babe) ? Ware you like, I do waste enourmous amounts of time playing on my computer but, in my defence, showing value, I am kinda pwning, thats how sexy I are...

SC is such a high level of geek that very few can attend, just like chess. Are chess players pulling all the babes? Cose that's what you need to transform SC from a cult to mainstream. Koreans made BW sexy by building an Idol TV culture around some progamers, and pulling in heaps of female teenagers which in turn made it socially acceptable.

That is the recepy for every mainstream competitive activity, the Stars get the babes and kids grow up wanting to be them, and, them too gettin the babes in their tents eventually. Very cynical put, but true; I highly doubt you can make SC sexy in the west for multiple reasons.

TLDR : I too had a dream I was a rock'n'roll star



What's your explanation for the popularity of NASCAR, bowling or pool? None of those have sex appeal or idolatry associated with them yet generate millions of fans. They aren't exactly the coolest hobbies either, lol.
Velocirabbi
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 08:56:49
November 23 2011 07:29 GMT
#508
Shaolin shadow boxing
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
November 23 2011 09:23 GMT
#509
incontrol, you're a great asset to ESPORTS.
UnceL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland73 Posts
November 23 2011 10:27 GMT
#510
great words, wise words! definitely something to think about! a lot!
Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
November 23 2011 10:45 GMT
#511
On November 23 2011 15:52 kammeyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 15:37 ubk wrote:
Are you saying to go around telling ppl that I didn't go to that thing Friday night because I was too busy being beyond nerdy and just watched some dudes playing computer games? ...I wasn't even playing computer games, I was watching other people do it, ladies and gents of the jury. Really how did you introduced your inner geek to your gf (btw well played sir, she's a babe) ? Ware you like, I do waste enourmous amounts of time playing on my computer but, in my defence, showing value, I am kinda pwning, thats how sexy I are...

SC is such a high level of geek that very few can attend, just like chess. Are chess players pulling all the babes? Cose that's what you need to transform SC from a cult to mainstream. Koreans made BW sexy by building an Idol TV culture around some progamers, and pulling in heaps of female teenagers which in turn made it socially acceptable.

That is the recepy for every mainstream competitive activity, the Stars get the babes and kids grow up wanting to be them, and, them too gettin the babes in their tents eventually. Very cynical put, but true; I highly doubt you can make SC sexy in the west for multiple reasons.

TLDR : I too had a dream I was a rock'n'roll star



What's your explanation for the popularity of NASCAR, bowling or pool? None of those have sex appeal or idolatry associated with them yet generate millions of fans. They aren't exactly the coolest hobbies either, lol.


SC is already sexy in the West.
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
Sycro
Profile Joined August 2010
United States7 Posts
November 23 2011 11:51 GMT
#512
I've always really been on the fence on how much I want Starcraft and eSports to be a part of my life. It's posts like these that really push me closer and closer to devoting more of my time to this community. Excellent post, and I hope my twitter followers end up reading it too.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
November 23 2011 13:26 GMT
#513
The world is moving away from television, but I love your sentiment. The things I like the most about this are how inclusive you are being and how you want to "clean up" the community. It is so true that no matter what your talents are they can be applied to sc2. I hope people take this blog and use it as inspiration to get more involved. The only time I ever feel ashamed to be apart of this community is when I see stream chats. I don't know if mods need to be more strict or what. But the last thing on my mind, when trying to get someone into this amazing game, is to tell them to go to a stream. Some chats are just as bad as youtube comments and that has always made me sad.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
November 23 2011 13:34 GMT
#514
On November 23 2011 15:37 ubk wrote:
Are you saying to go around telling ppl that I didn't go to that thing Friday night because I was too busy being beyond nerdy and just watched some dudes playing computer games? ...I wasn't even playing computer games, I was watching other people do it, ladies and gents of the jury. Really how did you introduced your inner geek to your gf (btw well played sir, she's a babe) ? Ware you like, I do waste enourmous amounts of time playing on my computer but, in my defence, showing value, I am kinda pwning, thats how sexy I are...

SC is such a high level of geek that very few can attend, just like chess. Are chess players pulling all the babes? Cose that's what you need to transform SC from a cult to mainstream. Koreans made BW sexy by building an Idol TV culture around some progamers, and pulling in heaps of female teenagers which in turn made it socially acceptable.

That is the recepy for every mainstream competitive activity, the Stars get the babes and kids grow up wanting to be them, and, them too gettin the babes in their tents eventually. Very cynical put, but true; I highly doubt you can make SC sexy in the west for multiple reasons.

TLDR : I too had a dream I was a rock'n'roll star



Anything can be construed to be "nerdy." If you are comfortable with yourself, then it shouldn't bother you. Whenever I explain how much work players put into this game, people are baffled. They can't believe that people practice for 12 hours a day and still haven't mastered every aspect of sc2. No one wants it to be seen as sexy. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. We just want sc2 to be taken seriously, and for the skill it takes to be great at this game to be recognized.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
evaunit01
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States512 Posts
November 23 2011 15:25 GMT
#515
Very nice writeup Geoff. I will try and do my part to the best of my ability, 26 yr old professional.
Gamertag: William T. Riker - My life for Aiur!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
November 23 2011 15:29 GMT
#516
You are a great asset to your team, this community, and just eSports as a whole. Thanks for this blog.
[TLMS] REBOOT
rallypoint
Profile Joined October 2011
28 Posts
November 23 2011 15:33 GMT
#517
Geoff, i have tweeted to you good sir.

I have been apprehensive but very interested in spreading the passion for esports. Since SC2 came out, I've always had a gut feeling it would be huge, and 2011 did not disappoint.

In the past month or so I've really wanted to help and make an impression on the scene here in Toronto Canada. So a few friends and I are trying to host our very first SC2 Screening party (pseudo-Barcraft) and it's very exciting, daunting, and I really hope it goes well. I dont want to turn this post into a plug, so I wont link it here

The point is ever since planning, investing time and money into even a small event, I've been having doubts, and fears that it wont fly.

But it is posts like this that encourage me to follow through, and keep trying even if it fails

Thanks Geoff!
Follow me on twitter! -- www.twitter.com/rallypointsc
Barleyarley
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom20 Posts
November 23 2011 15:42 GMT
#518
I have just eaten 12 Mini Scotch Eggs and 2 Cadbury's Mini Rolls, I am now ready to contribute to eSports!
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
November 23 2011 15:59 GMT
#519
Speculating on bubbles and limits for this game and our community is a thing of the past. Or at least it should be. If you spend time predicting where this ends or how it won't succeed you have blinded yourself to the growth and stimulus we have experienced in this past year. SC2 has raised gaming to levels no other game has before. Simple as that. I welcome challenges to that statement but I would argue that by and large what SC2 has done in this past year for competitive gaming and the community around the game (casual, hobbyist or more) is unparalleled. My first challenge to you is to dare to dream.



Whilst your write up was very good. If you are comparing e-sports now to an established market, you would be able to easily predict a correction in the cycle. Nothing goes straight up.

A bubble must pop, no matter how big or small.

My harsh, but I feel true perception of this is "the removal of the leeches from e-sports".

Whilst I am unsure on your educational background Geoff, I know you are good at debates, and I am not. But I will inform you that economically and in terms of markets e-sports is in a bubble.

How big will the correction be? well, lets see what the first quarter 2012 have in store.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
November 23 2011 16:27 GMT
#520
5/5 Great structure that was really well done
Adapt and React I MKP, PartinG, EffOrt ♥
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