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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
Chrono Trigger Breath of Fire 4 I have my fondest childhood memorys from those games. People can talk about nostalgia all they want,but those old games were so minimalistic in their visual presentation,yet they were so deep and so engaging like rarely any game after them. As people say that there are movies that you have to watch before you die,I would definitely say,as a gamer you have to give these old games a shot,they are worth every hour you spend in their world. | ||
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
This was an amazing read, thank you very much. | ||
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Jalle
Sweden149 Posts
This used to be so easy, you know? Just play a game and enjoy it for what it is. But then I played Planescape: Torment, which pretty much ruined gaming for me forever. I mean... damn. I'd write about that game, next, if I thought I'd be able to stop. Oh please do. It's not only the most underestimated, but also possibly the best CRPG/computer-game-in-general ever made <3 | ||
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flowSthead
1065 Posts
SPOILERS BELOW I'll use two examples to make my point: Final Fantasy IX and Final Fantasy X. I'll admit that the main character of Final Fantasy X is not the best main character, and I am not really a fan of his weird and awesome emo hair. But I don't think the central plot doesn't make sense. You have this giant monster Sin that comes every 10 years to threaten the world with destruction, and the only way these people know to stop it is to sacrifice a summoner to keep it asleep essentially. Then the central conflict between the main characters and the rest of the world happens because they don't want to sacrifice their summoner and they decide to attempt to actually kill Sin. They also become fugitives during this time, and it's not totally crazy since the summoner, Yuna, actually has some pretty damn powerful magics on her side. Also, despite Tidus's hair, FFX has one of the best WTF moments in that it turns out Tidus isn't even real! He's a dream that was touched by Sin and thus became partly real, but could only live so long as Sin lived. How is that not awesome? Final Fantasy IX on the other hand had a fairly typical plot for a JRPG. Yes, there were the weird moments with Zidane, the main guy, finding out that he's a spaceship, but it's not as weird as in FFX. And the final boss is literally catered towards the main characters so it also makes sense why it is them, but it's not super neat. The reason FFIX is awesome is because of the characterization. This game is why I can't take your criticism very seriously. I don't think there is a better characterized character in FF games that Vivi Orunitia. For an FF game that relatively few people played and had as their favorite (I did, but it's usually because it is the first FF game you play and most people started with FF7), Vivi still consistently made top 10 favorite character polls on the number of different websites I visited in my peak of FF fanhood. Vivi is one of the few characters in any video game that goes through actual changes and becomes a more mature "person" by the end of the story. He joins the characters sort of by accident, and by the end he has confidence and is actively trying to help them. That is a simple way to put it, but over 3 or 4 discs you can see these small scenes where his character really changes and has these moments of realization. It's an amazing game to play just for Vivi. Have you played the later FF games? Or did you stop with 7? I realize that the way some of these characters look may be a turn off, but I don't think many of them are actually weak games (except for FF13 that game sucked in everything you said and more). | ||
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Silverfoxx
United States184 Posts
...I don't fucking care. This game is fucking amazingly fun. also, best picture award goes to Tidus "Twinkfag" Lastname, as my friend so appropriately dubbed him when we were playing FF10 for some god-forsaken reason together. | ||
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Frajs
Sweden4 Posts
On November 14 2011 18:15 UniversalSnip wrote: You seem to have forgotten that just because elements like friendship power or the misfit protagonist are common to essentially bad games like the last several iterations of Final Fantasy doesn't mean they're what's fucking things up.How many awful fantasy novels were built with the same components that made up Harry Potter? I can think of atleast seven, they all start with "Harry Potter and the..." | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
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Carefree
United States1571 Posts
And you. | ||
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G
Canada69 Posts
One of the best RPGs I've ever played and finished, no doubt. My buddy never had a cartridge but it's his favourite game. He ended up buying one off ebay for $150-$200 and this was probably a couple of years back. | ||
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Krayze
United States213 Posts
You say you hate final fantasy but the game, if you left the names out, was final fantasy exactly. I'll take one quote in your conclusion and compare it to FF9 (my favorite game). "And so, in conceding defeat, I love it all, every last absurd and completely awesome minute of it. I love the tomboy princess. I love the robot that learns emotions. I love the brooding anti-hero. I love the floating mountains. I love the frog and his back-story. I love the epic goddamned music. I love the motherfucking flying steampunk time machine and the final showdown with the cosmic horror in the floating space fortress." Tomboy princess -> Dagger anyone? Robot that learns emotions -> Sounds like Vivi right? brooding anti-hero -> Kuja (kept thinking Kerigan, had to look it up lol) floating mountains -> check. Frog -> Cid, turned into a frog (isn't just a talking frog from conception) by his wife. epic music -> checkity check check. flying steampunk time machine you get at the end before the final battle -> Yes that's the same in FF9 as well. final showdown with the cosmic horror in the floating space fortress -> Yea pretty close there too. The stories seemed exactly the same, your bias is so heavy it angers me. Again, my bias is weighing in too since we're comparing some of our favorite games here. And since Chrono Dagger came out years before FF9 I can only assume FF9 copied all those ideas so I can't say much there. I'm just confused why a big part of your blog was dissing the FF series. I enjoyed the blog, take the flame away and would have been better, but I do like talking about FF so maybe it was worth it.  | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On November 14 2011 16:07 Aylear wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2S96D.png) 5/5 for Sluggy Freelance. Mana has to be my favorite JRPG, never cared for Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy much. Edit: I should say Mana is the closest thing to a JRPG I ever got into. I always preferred MUDs with Tolkien or sci-fi themes (like Alternity). | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
You say what we all think. I still listen to frogs theme sometimes as motivation. The music has the same effect on me. I can remember every moment in the game the music is played. I cried when crono was ressurected or when frog powers up the masamune both times. When lucca has to see her mom lose her ability to walk and subsequently be able to prevent it. God I fucking love this game. Ty for this. | ||
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dibban
Sweden1279 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
unfortunately my first experience of this game was not on the snes (didnt have one as a kid  ) but on the ds remake. there was a lot of hype and anticipation for the remake, but i wasn't clouded by any form of nostalgia. however, given that, i still fucking loved the game and to this day, it remains to be my most favorite rpg. THAT SOUNDTRACK <3 | ||
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Rudermensch
United States50 Posts
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Vansetsu
United States1452 Posts
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Meeply
30 Posts
Also, you should write for Cracked. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
I have metal joints Beat me up and earn 15 silver points. I lost you won, here's 15 silver points now wasn't that fun? Great write up. I feel the same way about FF7 as you do about CT. You have great taste. Chrono trigger shuffled around my top 3 for a long time as a kid, and its still one of the greatest games ever. Also thank you for pointing out how terrible FF games have been after the Square-Enix merger. <---- HOLY FUCK Thank you Edit: How did I know that people were gonna defend games like ff9/10 here against masterpieces of human kind like ff6/7/ct loooool it never ends | ||
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