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Not sure where people are getting the idea that I write a lot of blog entries, but I figured it was due for one (or others do and I'm just resigning into doing it.
It won't be towards anything in particular. In fact, I get bouts of writing everytime I hear a song that has someone given me a surge of desire to express myself. I can't compose, I don't have a good ear for music and if you watch my stream: I sing like a dying cat. So this "writing" thing will have to do.
Welcome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE9qu7cL-7Y&feature
Happy birthday to Mahnini and thank you very much for this song...
In life, we set boundaries for our daily doings; these little reminders that have now dissolved like flavoring in seltzer water. We don't live by then but we know ignoring or overlooking these safety precautions will only have us constantly tripping, falling flat on our own mistakes; an indulgence to think of ourselves rather than looking a bit farther and seeing how it can benefit more with little to no effort on our part.
These reminders aren't life-changing, they're not game-changing and they don't necessarily make your pursuit for whatever aspect in life you want to succeed: whether financial, social or personal. I guess in reality, they are lessons in life that you just abide by, rely on to save your skin from issues that will never arise if you follow them.
Before I go any further; yes, these rules are from my three fathers: One who would chant the same optimistic drivel I'd whine about constantly in our 7-hour drives from New Jersey to my Mother's house in Quebec, Canada. The windows cracked open, on my left: eroded round mountains of green, green and more green. The Appalachians never changed, regardless of the season: they always surrounded us and the bending road that we followed for what would feel like an eternity.
My second father would only communicate with us through anecdotes, stories about his experiences. Passing down his cardinal rules to live by, he was a second coming of Aesop with his business stories, failures and grandeur. A flip of the cassette and one pit-stop and he'd come back, enthusiastic as ever to tell us more about people. It wasn't psychology, it wasn't manipulation on how to get people on your side, they were just things to avoid trouble, make friends and influence people. It wasn't rocket science and you hardly needed a degree to realize the obviousness of it.
Putting it in practice, 10 years later, still seems like a struggle for some and just natural for other. I'm no charismatic leader with the charm of George Clooney in nearly all of his movies, but I take pride a bit in my contrasting both in real-life, with women, online and amongst various communities.
My last father would probably be the one I cherish most, but would never say a word. His silence wasn't a hint of sageness, wise implications that I must build and learn from. He wasn't a prophet of money, relationships or life. He lived by rules never mentioned, never told or probably never acknowledged, but interpreting how he thinks, how he lives and how he gets on his life will probably be the hardest job and greatest enjoyment for me as I live on, beyond his own lifetime. This is the same father who would hit me if I didn't smile in public, walk with my arms up in a 90 degree fashion as if I was going somewhere important or was in a business-related hurry. The same man who would value trust, but defy the very trust I bestowed upon him not by necessity and it wasn't emotional-based, but on a rationale for his own financial security and ultimately, to avoid trouble in some odd and twisted way. No resentment from me and in fact, that's where rule one begins for me:
Rule 1: Never condemn, criticize or complain (or compare). Recited by my father, preached by my other father and upheld by the last one by his own personality: I have followed this rule throughout my life. It's been probably the most difficult to achieve, especially when those raising me contradict the very things I figured they have mastered (but in fact, it's because they haven't that I am able to learn from them and both sides of the rule). I thought this meant in terms of people, but in reality, it could be for a lot more. Condemning and complaining achieve nothing, that's obvious, but criticizing? Haven't I done a piece on that?. Indeed it seems and so this is hard for me, but I feel that ultimately, the conciseness of this rule is to accept that criticism has no actual means or achievement if you don't follow it up with something to improve it (hence why we shouldn't condemn or complain either).
I added compare because it's something that I do consistently and try to avoid. I compare a lot, myself with others, my situation with others. Comparison leads to jealousy and thus causes me to miss what I have because what they have are things I can't have. I always account for what they have and what I don't, but we never do the opposite and we never take into thought of what they equally lost to get where they are now.
I'm not advocating that we are all fair in our losses, ha, that's a laugh! I'm advocating the idea that there's too much difference in circumstances to truly care how they got to where they are and that it doesn't change, in part, how you are going to get where you want to be, will be.
In the end, focus on yourself and the picture will be more clear from your perspective. If you live in the shade of people well-being, you'll never be able to enjoy the glow of sunlight.
Start with rule #1.
  
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You have 35 blogs. I have 4. You can see where I get the idea.
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On October 31 2011 08:45 Probe1 wrote:
You have 35 blogs. I have 4. You can see where I get the idea.
Mm, fair point. They're long blogs as well, I'm trying to shorten them to attract new readers perhaps.
But as always, they always end up extensively too long ):
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This one is a good length. I had time to read at work =)
I understand the view on complaining.
But condemning and criticizing form pretty crucial roles within a function society or even in functioning relationships. They set boundaries and acceptable standards. As well as providing an environment conducive to improvement.
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I'm going to have to agree with bkrow. I actually can't word it better than him.
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It's more in regards to people, but it works when condemning or criticizing countries, organizations or things we disagree with.
They're important, but I never do it unless I see a value in doing it. That value can be personal, but I get no joy in criticizing or condemning something unless I truly feel I can find a way to improve it or inform those who may want to help in improving it or can do it given their own stature.
So in a sense, it should be: Never solely condemn, complain or criticize, but the reality is that avoiding them entirely just suits my life better (hence the title).
Mind you, we're talking on a more personal level and not one where you are needing a critical eye to avoid being misguided or manipulated.
In essence, there's no point in being negative if there's no overall positive outlook to look forward to on it or if you are simply bitching to bitch, but ultimately don't care about the condition of the very subject you're bitching about.
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Additionally, you shouldn't criticize, condemn or complain if you aren't informed either. Condemning Nazis is easy because I am informed on the basics of Human Rights.
I can complain and condemn corporations because I am aware of their wrongdoings and loopholes politically and in globalization.
I can't criticize HuK from that ladder game he played because I don't know Protoss that well.
I can't condemn him because there is no value or gain from it. I don't get any relief from doing so and neither does HuK.
To emphasize, this is more in relation to what directly affects your life. We're not talking a society-level but a personal one (hence the title that uses "my" and not "life" in general).
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hmmm of all things to use an example you use huk...what does it mean?!
+ Show Spoiler +
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On October 31 2011 09:04 Dodgin wrote:hmmm of all things to use an example you use huk...what does it mean?! + Show Spoiler +
It means when I think of a professional player I enjoy watching and watch often, I think of Huk.
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On October 31 2011 09:06 Torte de Lini wrote:It means when I think of a professional player I enjoy watching and watch often, I think of Huk.
Good reason!
ps I'm jealous of the weather in your city at this time of year, vancouver is depressing until the snow starts with all the rain and cloudyness
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condemn - ok (although for some resistant things, at some point you just can't keep that up anymore)
complain - more than ok
criticize - that depends. when i'm doing some quality assurance or whatever, i criticize the shit out of everything. Like some guy implements a feature, i review his implementation and criticize so much stuff that he has to put in the same time again to change everything i found (although that's not necessary for everything i mention, but yes, mostly the things i propose are improvements and lead to a better result). Criticizing something, especially people, should be avoided unless asked for. But if asked for critics, criticize the hell out of it!.
compare - depends too. Sure, comparing yourself with stuff thats above you makes you feel shitty. But doesn't it also show provide goals in some cases, like "yeah i'm not there yet, but i'm quite sure i can/will do better"? And what if it's the other way round? i've actually started comparing a ton of things about myself to those of other people etc, because it actually helps me to see that i've got something better in a lot of cases and that i need to up my opinion about myself. And i was way more miserable before i started doing that, so i'm surely not going to stop.
but i agree with the basic tone of it. If you get bullshitted and flamed, just eat it and don't bullshit back, don't even try to defend yourself in almost every case (hi mom -.-). And don't even start bullshiting on your own, ever. ^^
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On October 31 2011 09:17 MisterD wrote:
condemn - ok (although for some resistant things, at some point you just can't keep that up anymore)
complain - more than ok
criticize - that depends. when i'm doing some quality assurance or whatever, i criticize the shit out of everything. Like some guy implements a feature, i review his implementation and criticize so much stuff that he has to put in the same time again to change everything i found (although that's not necessary for everything i mention, but yes, mostly the things i propose are improvements and lead to a better result). Criticizing something, especially people, should be avoided unless asked for. But if asked for critics, criticize the hell out of it!.
compare - depends too. Sure, comparing yourself with stuff thats above you makes you feel shitty. But doesn't it also show provide goals in some cases, like "yeah i'm not there yet, but i'm quite sure i can/will do better"? And what if it's the other way round? i've actually started comparing a ton of things about myself to those of other people etc, because it actually helps me to see that i've got something better in a lot of cases and that i need to up my opinion about myself. And i was way more miserable before i started doing that, so i'm surely not going to stop.
but i agree with the basic tone of it. If you get bullshitted and flamed, just eat it and don't bullshit back, don't even try to defend yourself in almost every case (hi mom -.-). And don't even start bullshiting on your own, ever. ^^
In line with rule #2 soon :3
Cheers
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DJ Okawari, nice choice! One thing though, I'm pretty sure the proper name for that song is 'A Cup of Coffee'. Not sure why it is labelled by the uploader as Interlude. Might make it easier for anyone looking for an audio file of that song after hearing it on youtube!
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I disagree with your semantics on criticism. I think this probably because I am an artist and we constantly receive 'criticism'-- but I see criticism as always positive in that its inherent purpose is improvement. If there's no way to improve out of the comment, it's not criticism, it's an insult to the receiver, and a shame on the speaker.
Criticism in this form isn't simply about negative things-- it is important to point out the positive and discuss how the less successful things are detracting from it, how to improve upon something you are already doing well, and to congratulate someone for their strengths.
I think people, ideas, entities, and the things they do should be criticized.
Anyway, I think you would probably agree with this way of thinking, just that our way of interpreting the word 'criticism' differs. But, I think you should consider if a statement should really be called criticism if it's only purpose is to be negative/hurtful/hateful; I think that is just being insulting, hateful, and ignorant.
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I like 'em long. This was too short and I wanted to read more 
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I can't get enough of that damn song. It's like the sax and piano scores were mixed up.
Fuck this I'm going to try and play the piano section later tonight after I get drunk. What a badass song.
Note- not the electronic keyboard section, just the piano parts playing the upper octaves and chords.
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1) If you have the power to do it. Do whatever you can!
2) Who are you to judge but yourself.
3) Respect your enemy. (mainly for SC2)
Follow these 3 rules and you'll be a better person, even in SC2!
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On October 31 2011 09:24 RedJustice wrote:
I disagree with your semantics on criticism. I think this probably because I am an artist and we constantly receive 'criticism'-- but I see criticism as always positive in that its inherent purpose is improvement. If there's no way to improve out of the comment, it's not criticism, it's an insult to the receiver, and a shame on the speaker.
Criticism in this form isn't simply about negative things-- it is important to point out the positive and discuss how the less successful things are detracting from it, how to improve upon something you are already doing well, and to congratulate someone for their strengths.
I think people, ideas, entities, and the things they do should be criticized.
Anyway, I think you would probably agree with this way of thinking, just that our way of interpreting the word 'criticism' differs. But, I think you should consider if a statement should really be called criticism if it's only purpose is to be negative/hurtful/hateful; I think that is just being insulting, hateful, and ignorant.
It has nothing to do with being an artist and I already covered criticism in two blogs: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=247250
In addition to:
It's more in regards to people, but it works when condemning or criticizing countries, organizations or things we disagree with.
They're important, but I never do it unless I see a value in doing it. That value can be personal, but I get no joy in criticizing or condemning something unless I truly feel I can find a way to improve it or inform those who may want to help in improving it or can do it given their own stature.
So in a sense, it should be: Never solely condemn, complain or criticize, but the reality is that avoiding them entirely just suits my life better (hence the title).
Mind you, we're talking on a more personal level and not one where you are needing a critical eye to avoid being misguided or manipulated.
In essence, there's no point in being negative if there's no overall positive outlook to look forward to on it or if you are simply bitching to bitch, but ultimately don't care about the condition of the very subject you're bitching about.
Additionally, you shouldn't criticize, condemn or complain if you aren't informed either. Condemning Nazis is easy because I am informed on the basics of Human Rights.
I can complain and condemn corporations because I am aware of their wrongdoings and loopholes politically and in globalization.
I can't criticize HuK from that ladder game he played because I don't know Protoss that well.
I can't condemn him because there is no value or gain from it. I don't get any relief from doing so and neither does HuK.
To emphasize, this is more in relation to what directly affects your life. We're not talking a society-level but a personal one (hence the title that uses "my" and not "life" in general).
Read the other blog about criticisms and read the bolded bits.
We are essentially speaking on the same parallel.
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On October 31 2011 09:28 Probe1 wrote:
I can't get enough of that damn song. It's like the sax and piano scores were mixed up.
Fuck this I'm going to try and play the piano section later tonight after I get drunk. What a badass song.
Note- not the electronic keyboard section, just the piano parts playing the upper octaves and chords.
Talk to Mahnini, he found it and I forever am in his debt. I've been heavily discouraged with my music, knowing them too much over 4 years of never changing or trying new songs.
This one suits me incredibly!
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Sing and dance, especially if you can't do either. The effects take a bit to set in, but they are marvelous. I will present no anecdotes, because, really, who'd want to read them?
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On October 31 2011 09:23 Cow wrote:
DJ Okawari, nice choice! One thing though, I'm pretty sure the proper name for that song is 'A Cup of Coffee'. Not sure why it is labelled by the uploader as Interlude. Might make it easier for anyone looking for an audio file of that song after hearing it on youtube!
Thank you, but Mahnini is the one who found the song, I am simply a strong promoter of his taste in music :3
On October 31 2011 09:24 JoFritzMD wrote:I like 'em long. This was too short and I wanted to read more
I'm sorry. ): I tried for shorter thinking people wouldn't be so tired down by the length. It has no pictures so reading it can be daunting.
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On October 31 2011 09:32 Zariel wrote:
1) If you have the power to do it. Do whatever you can!
2) Who are you to judge but yourself.
3) Respect your enemy. (mainly for SC2)
Follow these 3 rules and you'll be a better person, even in SC2!
I feel #3 is the best of those rules, while I can think of scenarios that suit me for your first two rules, the third one is something similar to a rule of mine of where there will always be a part of someone you dislike, that you can enjoy.
In this case, respecting them has an inherent interest in the person, regardless of your overall view of them!
Thanks for sharing this is great!
On October 31 2011 09:34 procyonlotor wrote:
Sing and dance, especially if you can't do either. The effects take a bit to set in, but they are marvelous. I will present no anecdotes, because, really, who'd want to read them?
We all would like to read them. To be a bit of a wiseass, but do you sing and dance, express yourself, for others and their interest or your own need to be expressive?
Cheers :3
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You should write long blogs, and put in random cat pictures and starcraft related mspaint doodles throughout. That would be epic.
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On October 31 2011 09:37 RedJustice wrote:
You should write long blogs, and put in random cat pictures and starcraft related mspaint doodles throughout. That would be epic.
I was considering it, but didn't want to deter the light-hearted pre-adolescent profound writing I was trying to make sense of.
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Never condemn, criticize, complain, OR compare?! Really? In my opinion, these are far too vague and different to put in the same sentence - or "rule." Comparison is the driving force that motivates some people. Criticism can be constructive. It can also be a waste of time but I know that I (personally) use constructive criticism on a daily basis in my life. I think you meant to state (more simply) "don't judge others, especially people you don't know." You said something in a comment about only complaining about situations in which you are informed. Based on your example, I think complaining can lead to becoming more informed, in some instances. Essentially, everything is circumstantial, so that's why this is rule #1. I get that, but I think you should be more specific.
...Especially for rule #2. 
Edit:
Er, that last-ish sentence came out wrong. I meant to say I understand you see those things as being circumstantial too. lol, it's been a long day.
Also, this blog was too short.
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They're vague rules because if you set rules that are too specific, you live life too rigid. As fluid as life is, so should your rules. These aren't rules per se, as I mentioned before, more similar to lessons. They aren't meant to be followed, but used to avoid pitfalls and life and ultimately hurt your chances in being all you can be or achieve.
The issue is that everyone takes them at first glance rather than what they are: enigmas of reasons not to do something or to avoid said negative outcome.
See note on Criticism, I've already covered that. I mean criticize.
Comparison is a personal one, comparison can be a motivator, but then again, money is a motivator as well which I disapprove additionally. Different lives, different people, different reasons to do something.
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Ah yes, I've heard your opinion on money and motivation before. I never responded (twitter, meh).
Money, unfortunately, is a personal motivator for me. I compare myself to others constantly, and it's what drives me to perform better and therefore succeed financially.
It's interesting... What do you think motivates people to perform well, and be effective employees? I don't believe this question has a simple answer. It's far too complex.
I'm curious as to how you would answer this. My view is somewhat negative, since I see things from a financial perspective.
What motivates you? Studies show that the general population agrees with your opinion... Honestly, that thought is hard for me to grasp.
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The answer that drives people to perform better has always been a social need and pressure. They want to succeed to be appreciated by their peers and authorities. To ensure the necessities are in place and prevent worry from those they love.
They wish to improve so that they can be proud of themselves, but acknowledge modestly of the amount of work it will need. Nobody is satisfied but that striving to be satisfied, happiness, is a motivator for all.
Money is a motivator for some because they see it as a main theme to access that happiness, it doesn't make them superficial, greedy nor materialistic, it makes them like everyone else, the norm, the accepted part that pushes this society to a height that makes it work conventionally and comfortably.
What motivates people is a tug from avoiding problems, worry and issues in all aspects of their life, self-satisfaction and emphasis of being needed, appreciated or desired and striving for a happiness, a relief, that is impossible to attain but worth getting as near as we can.
That's what motivates people.
On October 31 2011 10:15 Porcelain wrote:
Ah yes, I've heard your opinion on money and motivation before. I never responded (twitter, meh).
Money, unfortunately, is a personal motivator for me. I compare myself to others constantly, and it's what drives me to perform better and therefore succeed financially.
It's interesting... What do you think motivates people to perform well, and be effective employees? I don't believe this question has a simple answer. It's far too complex.
I'm curious as to how you would answer this. My view is somewhat negative, since I see things from a financial perspective.
What motivates you? Studies show that the general population agrees with your opinion... Honestly, that thought is hard for me to grasp.
I try very hard never to compare because of the pitfall of disappointment. If I compare myself to someone and find myself never being where they are within a reasonable lifespan that has some rational justification, then I will be disappointed and thus less motivated with the poor mindset that I can't be where he is.
If I compare, I narrow the reasons why I can't be like him with the idea that I can be like him if I do similarly to him. It's a poor mindset and is obvious wrong, but that's why I never compare. If I compare, assume we are of equals on some length that makes the difference between him and I parallel and thus possible (when it may be very impossible, which is okay, because our paths are not meant to be the same direction, but purely of the same height of what we want).
If I compare, I build myself up someplace that may unstable and I fall, fail or assume I failed purely because I didn't get to where he is.
That's why I never compare. I choose more innocent and wider motivators than comparison.
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You have 3 fathers who preached the words of Dale Carnegie to you?.........
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On October 31 2011 10:30 0123456789 wrote:
You have 3 fathers who preached the words of Dale Carnegie to you?.........
No, only one of them is Dale Carnegie.
Another one recited it.
Another one acted on a similar basis by his optimism and own words.
Very happy someone recognizes Dale Carnegie :3
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Prevent worries? Money. Avoid problems/issues? Also money.
I think I'm a lot more pessimistic and negative than you, haha. In some aspects at least. I have a very positive mindset when it comes to our opposite views on comparing ourselves to others. I truly believe that I can accomplish whatever it is that's causing me to be envious of someone. Asking myself questions such as: Why am I not like him/her? What can I do differently? What separates me from them?
You must have a fear of failure. Or, it's a primary concern of yours.
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You assume all worries are financial based and you assume the same for problems/issues.
No, I'm negative, I just choose to stop, think and see things as a whole before making a gut reaction. We are all cynics in a sense, skeptical of many things. It's fine, but you have to reflective of your tendencies.
That's a word I wanted: Tendency.
Thinking I've failed is a fear, yes. That's where I am in a point of my life and having encountered many failures in school as a teenager and child has that effect on someone.
I think trying to be like someone is ultimately estranging yourself and misusing your capabilities to be like someone rather than being your own person with similar goals or desires in life.
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On October 31 2011 09:37 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 09:34 procyonlotor wrote:
Sing and dance, especially if you can't do either. The effects take a bit to set in, but they are marvelous. I will present no anecdotes, because, really, who'd want to read them? We all would like to read them. To be a bit of a wiseass, but do you sing and dance, express yourself, for others and their interest or your own need to be expressive? Cheers :3
When it comes to singing and dancing I am like a horny prude. I really want to do it, but am conditioned not to, which is where other people come in. They generally have to coax me into doing it, but once I get going, we all have a lot of good fun. Everybody wins.
Here is your story. Listen:
It is tradition in Romania for classes finishing middle school to have a grand prom-style party at the end. You rent an entire restaurant, set up a feast and hit it up on the dance floor. I have no memory of the food. I remember only the large glass bottles of sparkling water sitting on the table, which is where I was determined to remain while everyone was getting jiggy with it. Not before long this girl who had a crush on me dragged me to the dance floor. We didn't dance, not really; we only held each other and did this awkward shuffle couples do when they just sway to the music. It wasn't much but it was enough to get me going and very soon I was having a ball. At one point I abandoned dancing completely. Shirt out of my trousers, cuffs unbuttoned, I stomped my feet around a pillar in some kind of tribal ritual. A pretty girl came up to me and said I ought to see a priest. I didn't understand what she meant but we danced together until her supposed boyfriend felt threatened and broke up our merrymaking. I don't remember how the rest of the festivities went, but the next day I met the girl's boyfriend again at a PC bang. He was standing next to the owner and seeing me he said, see that guy, he was completely shitfaced last night. I didn't deny it because it wasn't exactly a lie. No alcohol was had, true, but there was singing, and there was dancing.
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Some time ago i worked on trying to form Isaac Asimovs Robot Laws into something applicable to humans... well, i later decided that it's actually quite simple:
You only need 3 rules in life:
1. Don't harm others in any way (physically, financially or psychically)
2. Help others as long as it doesn't make you break rule 1 by either harming others or by harming yourself
3. If you want to be successful, ignore rule 1 and 2 and take advantage of everyone else
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wow dude you give me alot to think about which i like keep it going !
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Looking forward to Rule #2 - Double Tap
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Are you telling me that you didn't
condemn
criticize
complain
compare
in those 13889 posts you made?
Damn!
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On October 31 2011 23:53 Koshi wrote:
Are you telling me that you didn't
condemn
criticize
complain
compare
in those 13889 posts you made?
Damn!
you are aware he actually linked one where he did one of those?
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On October 31 2011 23:53 Koshi wrote:
Are you telling me that you didn't
condemn
criticize
complain
compare
in those 13889 posts you made?
Damn!
Reread the notes attached.
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On October 31 2011 19:08 Morfildur wrote:
Some time ago i worked on trying to form Isaac Asimovs Robot Laws into something applicable to humans... well, i later decided that it's actually quite simple:
You only need 3 rules in life:
1. Don't harm others in any way (physically, financially or psychically)
2. Help others as long as it doesn't make you break rule 1 by either harming others or by harming yourself
3. If you want to be successful, ignore rule 1 and 2 and take advantage of everyone else
You can do 2 without hurting 1.
In fact, you go faster by doing 2 and 1.
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On October 31 2011 18:42 procyonlotor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2011 09:37 Torte de Lini wrote:On October 31 2011 09:34 procyonlotor wrote:
Sing and dance, especially if you can't do either. The effects take a bit to set in, but they are marvelous. I will present no anecdotes, because, really, who'd want to read them? We all would like to read them. To be a bit of a wiseass, but do you sing and dance, express yourself, for others and their interest or your own need to be expressive? Cheers :3 When it comes to singing and dancing I am like a horny prude. I really want to do it, but am conditioned not to, which is where other people come in. They generally have to coax me into doing it, but once I get going, we all have a lot of good fun. Everybody wins. Here is your story. Listen: It is tradition in Romania for classes finishing middle school to have a grand prom-style party at the end. You rent an entire restaurant, set up a feast and hit it up on the dance floor. I have no memory of the food. I remember only the large glass bottles of sparkling water sitting on the table, which is where I was determined to remain while everyone was getting jiggy with it. Not before long this girl who had a crush on me dragged me to the dance floor. We didn't dance, not really; we only held each other and did this awkward shuffle couples do when they just sway to the music. It wasn't much but it was enough to get me going and very soon I was having a ball. At one point I abandoned dancing completely. Shirt out of my trousers, cuffs unbuttoned, I stomped my feet around a pillar in some kind of tribal ritual. A pretty girl came up to me and said I ought to see a priest. I didn't understand what she meant but we danced together until her supposed boyfriend felt threatened and broke up our merrymaking. I don't remember how the rest of the festivities went, but the next day I met the girl's boyfriend again at a PC bang. He was standing next to the owner and seeing me he said, see that guy, he was completely shitfaced last night. I didn't deny it because it wasn't exactly a lie. No alcohol was had, true, but there was singing, and there was dancing.
So what is the issue haha?
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On November 01 2011 03:07 Torte de Lini wrote:
So what is the issue haha?
Beats me. Was there supposed to be an issue?
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On November 01 2011 03:22 procyonlotor wrote:Beats me. Was there supposed to be an issue?
not gonna lie, was expecting one :B
So... did you get a girl in the end?
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On November 01 2011 03:26 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 03:22 procyonlotor wrote:On November 01 2011 03:07 Torte de Lini wrote:
So what is the issue haha?
Beats me. Was there supposed to be an issue? not gonna lie, was expecting one :B So... did you get a girl in the end?
No to both then! Drama and women are two topics I do not touch.
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What a classy guy haha :B
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