So as some of you probably know right before the Kiante vs Puppykiller match Kiante played me in a few of what i thought were friendly games and went 1-2 after getting allin'd twice in a row and then proceeded to gloat in the thread and pass it on as a mini grudge-match between us.
Now that the dust has settled down and i have some free time, I'm calling kiante out for a proper grudge-match so i can hopefully humble him a bit.
He's probably going to dodge this and make up some excuse so he doesn't have to play PvZ but in case he doesn't i want it to be a bo7 instead of a bo5 so either player doesn't get super thrown off by some gay cheese or stupid mistake.
maps: Fighting Spirit to start, unfortunately I'm not as flexible as puppy with the maps so i would prefer if the loser chose from: Circuit Breakers, Neo Aztec, New Empire of the sun, New Bloody Ridge, Alternative, Dante's Peak 2.0 SE, La Mancha, and Fortress SE 2.0. (Most of the good new PL maps i can think of)
Anyone who talks to him often please refer him to this thread and tell him to man up and play a matchup that isn't as beyond easy (although still pretty damn easy).
(I don't expect this to be anywhere near as hyped as Kiante vs Puppykiller and I really don't want people to think the foreigner BW community is just a bunch of BM noobs grudge-matching each-other, i just want a proper grudge-match in response to Kiante gloating about friendly games.)
I really don't want people to think the foreigner BW community is just a bunch of BM noobs grudge-matching each-other, i just want a proper grudge-match in response to Kiante gloating about friendly games.)
Which people?
KIANTE WILL SMOKE YOU SO HARD LIKE HE SMOKED THAT LUDAKRIS PUPPYKILLER GUY
I'd watch it. Kiante vs Puppykiller was suprisingly entertaining (maybe it's just BW withdrawal). I hope you guys will be more BM in-game though. Nothing is more insulting than letting the other guy know you can beat him while wasting time typing instead of macroing.
On October 30 2011 15:46 Megaliskuu wrote: Ur really forcing this whole grudgematch thing.
This is what i didn't want it to come off as, just hoping setting up a proper grudgematch so me/kiante can definitively say that one play smacked the other in a grudge-match instead of random friendly games which neither side was really expecting, i debated even posting it on TL but meh.
I wouldn't have challenged him if he didn't gloat about it so much and make excuses for the only standard game we played (in which he lost) :/
On October 30 2011 15:53 red4ce wrote: I'd watch it. Kiante vs Puppykiller was suprisingly entertaining (maybe it's just BW withdrawal). I hope you guys will be more BM in-game though. Nothing is more insulting than letting the other guy know you can beat him while wasting time typing instead of macroing.
Well im a much faster typer then puppy so i can guarantee it will be better in that department. ^_^
On October 30 2011 15:55 Ooshmagoosh wrote: Not a lot of grudge in this grudgematch.
A match nonetheless. Enjoy your beatdown =D
I was try being more manner in this post if you read the other threads or ask puppykiller/renzy they can conform i was pretty damn pissed ><
Yup. He was not happy when he read Kiante's post today, which is like 2 weeks from when Kiante posted that. loool. Lol. Lumire just wants to have a better image by being mannered. Haha
On October 30 2011 16:12 Kiante wrote: nope. we played. i beat you. go get some manner. theres no grudge here. go find someone else to try and get some attention on.
On October 30 2011 15:25 Lumire wrote: He's probably going to dodge this and make up some excuse so he doesn't have to play PvZ
If you think your better then me then why do you insist on dodging? 3-0'ing puppy didn't stop you from playing him...
When did i say i was better than you? I said i beat you. Lol. Seriously tho, if you're going to try and call a grudge please go and find someone who wronged you. Lol.
On October 30 2011 16:20 Kiante wrote: When did i say i was better than you? I said i beat you. Lol. Seriously tho, if you're going to try and call a grudge please go and find someone who wronged you. Lol.
So asking someone to play some friendly games and then passing it on as a grudge-match on TL and then dodging someone when they call you out isn't wronging someone? geeze can you get anymore transparent?
I never passed it off as a grudge match. If you recall, puppykiller made alot of claims about you beating me, i asked for reps, they were never supplied. We played some friendly games and i won, this was brought up in a counter to puppykillers argument of you trashing me all the time. I never claimed I was better than you.
Lets go take a look at the grudge match as a concept. Usually, the wronged party has a chance to call out the person who wronged them to prove a point. In this instance, considering how many times you've called me terrible, both on streams and in threads, i'm the wronged party. However, I dont give a shit anymore since the puppykiller grudge match, so I hold no grudge. ergo, no grudge match.
I'll reiterate what i said initially, go find someone else to get attention off. Kewl.
On October 30 2011 16:42 Kiante wrote: I never passed it off as a grudge match. If you recall, puppykiller made alot of claims about you beating me, i asked for reps, they were never supplied. We played some friendly games and i won, this was brought up in a counter to puppykillers argument of you trashing me all the time. I never claimed I was better than you.
Lets go take a look at the grudge match as a concept. Usually, the wronged party has a chance to call out the person who wronged them to prove a point. In this instance, considering how many times you've called me terrible, both on streams and in threads, i'm the wronged party. However, I dont give a shit anymore since the puppykiller grudge match, so I hold no grudge. ergo, no grudge match.
I never said i smashed you, i have replays of me going 1-1 vs u when i was D+/C- and you were C rank but im too lazy to upload them and im sure you could find them.
Since you wan't to get all technical, asking for friendly games and barely winning then gloating about it on multiple occasions on teamliquid while making excuses about the games you lost seems like pretty sufficient reason to me.
And get of your fucking high horse thinking your all high and mighty important when the only reason your featured is because you restreamed savior for like a week straight and only get viewers because people enjoy watching you get smashed then yell about it in an Australian accent.
You barely won the grudgematch vs puppy and now your too scared to play another so you just hide behind the cover of the supposed friendly matches and you accusing me of being an attention whore for some reason.
On October 30 2011 16:42 Kiante wrote: I never passed it off as a grudge match. If you recall, puppykiller made alot of claims about you beating me, i asked for reps, they were never supplied. We played some friendly games and i won, this was brought up in a counter to puppykillers argument of you trashing me all the time. I never claimed I was better than you.
Lets go take a look at the grudge match as a concept. Usually, the wronged party has a chance to call out the person who wronged them to prove a point. In this instance, considering how many times you've called me terrible, both on streams and in threads, i'm the wronged party. However, I dont give a shit anymore since the puppykiller grudge match, so I hold no grudge. ergo, no grudge match.
I never said i smashed you, i have replays of me going 1-1 vs u when i was D+/C- and you were C rank but im too lazy to upload them and im sure you could find them.
Since you wan't to get all technical, asking for friendly games and barely winning then gloating about it on multiple occasions on teamliquid while making excuses about the games you lost seems like pretty sufficient reason to me.
And get of your fucking high horse thinking your all high and mighty important when the only reason your featured is because you restreamed savior for like a week straight and only get viewers because people enjoy watching you get smashed then yell about it in an Australian accent.
You barely won the grudgematch vs puppy and now your too scared to play another so you just hide behind the cover of the supposed friendly matches and you accusing me of being an attention whore for some reason.
lol dude stop trying to force something that isn't here. Stop putting words in my mouth and read my posts properly at least. Obvious troll is obvious.
No man. I am true saiyan. My power level is over 9000....I read saiyanese perfectly man. Vegeta taught me himself....My grudge scouter is definitely correct.
On October 30 2011 16:42 Kiante wrote: I never passed it off as a grudge match. If you recall, puppykiller made alot of claims about you beating me, i asked for reps, they were never supplied. We played some friendly games and i won, this was brought up in a counter to puppykillers argument of you trashing me all the time. I never claimed I was better than you.
Lets go take a look at the grudge match as a concept. Usually, the wronged party has a chance to call out the person who wronged them to prove a point. In this instance, considering how many times you've called me terrible, both on streams and in threads, i'm the wronged party. However, I dont give a shit anymore since the puppykiller grudge match, so I hold no grudge. ergo, no grudge match.
I never said i smashed you, i have replays of me going 1-1 vs u when i was D+/C- and you were C rank but im too lazy to upload them and im sure you could find them.
Since you wan't to get all technical, asking for friendly games and barely winning then gloating about it on multiple occasions on teamliquid while making excuses about the games you lost seems like pretty sufficient reason to me.
And get of your fucking high horse thinking your all high and mighty important when the only reason your featured is because you restreamed savior for like a week straight and only get viewers because people enjoy watching you get smashed then yell about it in an Australian accent.
You barely won the grudgematch vs puppy and now your too scared to play another so you just hide behind the cover of the supposed friendly matches and you accusing me of being an attention whore for some reason.
Damn brah chill before you can GM kiante you have to like, win the GM against yourself duuude.
On October 30 2011 16:59 renzy wrote: No man. I am true saiyan. My power level is over 9000....I read saiyanese perfectly man. Vegeta taught me himself....My grudge scouter is definitely correct.
To be fair, the Kiante Puppy GM was so surprisingly entertaining. I especially loved the commentary! Even without the back story, I just enjoyed watching the games... I forgot how awesome even lower level BW was to watch. Watching my own replays doesn't count, it just hurts :/
On October 30 2011 17:32 SarR wrote: Not feeling too much grudge in this for some reason. I think your OP was a little too polite.
and there was lack of a reason to try this it just feels forced imo x.x
lol, after the pk vs kiante I was actually really fucking pissed, I tried to make the op manner so I wouldnt look like some random raging nobody trying to milk puppys gm, unfortunatly it backfired and thats exactly what happened :/
Lumire wantin' to be manner, but me warshin' merchine be rumblin' wit a fretch batch of bm. I loan Lumire a pair and he purt it on histe face and next Kiante man up and put histe own anus gnat's in histe face and all of teamliquid laugh HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA! ;0.
Kiante, you need to own up to your actions. You call me a bitch when I "dodge" you and here we see you completely unwilling to play Lumire. I'm pretty sure that the only reason you challenged me in the first place was because you were falsely confident that you could 3-0 me in a heroic fashion. However with Lumire you feel that there is a minor chance that you could actually lose (he's one rank below you on iccup rather than two ranks below you), so you are scared as hell to play him.
Where are those testicles you kept bringing up before? Don't you dare spout any half-assed excuses that claim that you see no need to rise to Lumire's auspicious challenge! Don't you dare hypocritically excuse yourself from this test of penial fortitude when had I backed away from your challenge, you would have claimed me unmanly! And don't you dare consider yourself a noble BW player when in this moment right here, you flee glorious battle with no legitimate reason!
Lumire's testicles be rabid and his cock be frothing. His eye be open and locked onto it's target. His stomach be hungry and his hair be on end. All he desires Kiante, is that you stop fearfully playing Cat and Mouse in the Jungle and instead partake in epic ZvP warfare.
You Kiante, are like Oscar the Grouch. You viciously rage at the rest of the world, and when it confronts you, you hide with a most insolent manner in your filthy trash can. Admit the terror that you feel in the sights of the beast that seeks to wrestle you out of your disgusting polluted fortress and with a grim custodial duty, mash your genitalia into guacamole. Admit that you are selfishly and grouchily depraving teamliquid of an epic BW grudge match slaughter-fest that should at least slightly entertain a portion of the community whilst it waits for the next BW PL season to begin.
Kiante, Lumire foolishly attempted to diplomatically arrange this duel with you. This backfired on him as you unrighteously used it as an excuse to dodge him whilst also not admitting to a lack of testicles on your part (LOLOLOL hypocrite much?). For this reason I must aid him and promote him as the beast who's come to break you.
So Kiante, I ask you to call upon any pride that you may have, and use it to fight Lumire and die with honor. Else close the lid of your trash can and admit that it is where you belong.
Lumire wantin' to be manner, but me warshin' merchine be rumblin' wit a fretch batch of bm. I loan Lumire a pair and he purt it on histe face and next Kiante man up and put histe own anus gnat's in histe face and all of teamliquid laugh HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA! ;0.
Kiante, you need to own up to your actions. You call me a bitch when I "dodge" you and here we see you completely unwilling to play Lumire. I'm pretty sure that the only reason you challenged me in the first place was because you were falsely confident that you could 3-0 me in a heroic fashion. However with Lumire you feel that there is a minor chance that you could actually lose (he's one rank below you on iccup rather than two ranks below you), so you are scared as hell to play him.
Where are those testicles you kept bringing up before? Don't you dare spout any half-assed excuses that claim that you see no need to rise to Lumire's auspicious challenge! Don't you dare hypocritically excuse yourself from this test of penial fortitude when had I backed away from your challenge, you would have claimed me unmanly! And don't you dare consider yourself a noble BW player when in this moment right here, you flee glorious battle with no legitimate reason!
Lumire's testicles be rabid and his cock be frothing. His eye be open and locked onto it's target. His stomach be hungry and his hair be on end. All he desires Kiante, is that you stop fearfully playing Cat and Mouse in the Jungle and instead partake in epic ZvP warfare.
You Kiante, are like Oscar the Grouch. You viciously rage at the rest of the world, and when it confronts you, you hide with a most insolent manner in your filthy trash can. Admit the terror that you feel in the sights of the beast that seeks to wrestle you out of your disgusting polluted fortress and with a grim custodial duty, mash your genitalia into guacamole. Admit that you are selfishly and grouchily depraving teamliquid of an epic BW grudge match slaughter-fest that should at least slightly entertain a portion of the community whilst it waits for the next BW PL season to begin.
Kiante, Lumire foolishly attempted to diplomatically arrange this duel with you. This backfired on him as you unrighteously used it as an excuse to dodge him whilst also not admitting to a lack of testicles on your part (LOLOLOL hypocrite much?). For this reason I must aid him and promote him as the beast who's come to break you.
So Kiante, I ask you to call upon any pride that you may have, and use it to fight Lumire and die with honor. Else close the lid of your trash can and admit that it is where you belong.
Now this is what I'm talking about! Disregard my comment about your writing being cheesy. This is great . You almost make it sound like a grude-match is going to happen.
On October 30 2011 16:42 Kiante wrote: I never passed it off as a grudge match. If you recall, puppykiller made alot of claims about you beating me, i asked for reps, they were never supplied. We played some friendly games and i won, this was brought up in a counter to puppykillers argument of you trashing me all the time. I never claimed I was better than you.
Lets go take a look at the grudge match as a concept. Usually, the wronged party has a chance to call out the person who wronged them to prove a point. In this instance, considering how many times you've called me terrible, both on streams and in threads, i'm the wronged party. However, I dont give a shit anymore since the puppykiller grudge match, so I hold no grudge. ergo, no grudge match.
I never said i smashed you, i have replays of me going 1-1 vs u when i was D+/C- and you were C rank but im too lazy to upload them and im sure you could find them.
Since you wan't to get all technical, asking for friendly games and barely winning then gloating about it on multiple occasions on teamliquid while making excuses about the games you lost seems like pretty sufficient reason to me.
And get of your fucking high horse thinking your all high and mighty important when the only reason your featured is because you restreamed savior for like a week straight and only get viewers because people enjoy watching you get smashed then yell about it in an Australian accent.
You barely won the grudgematch vs puppy and now your too scared to play another so you just hide behind the cover of the supposed friendly matches and you accusing me of being an attention whore for some reason.
Kiante specifically asked to be unfeatured after he stopped streaming afreeca and then got back to a featured streamer on his own.
Please stop talking if you don't know what you're talking about. Kiante worked hard to get featured, that's for sure.
Lumire wantin' to be manner, but me warshin' merchine be rumblin' wit a fretch batch of bm. I loan Lumire a pair and he purt it on histe face and next Kiante man up and put histe own anus gnat's in histe face and all of teamliquid laugh HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA! ;0.
Kiante, you need to own up to your actions. You call me a bitch when I "dodge" you and here we see you completely unwilling to play Lumire. I'm pretty sure that the only reason you challenged me in the first place was because you were falsely confident that you could 3-0 me in a heroic fashion. However with Lumire you feel that there is a minor chance that you could actually lose (he's one rank below you on iccup rather than two ranks below you), so you are scared as hell to play him.
Where are those testicles you kept bringing up before? Don't you dare spout any half-assed excuses that claim that you see no need to rise to Lumire's auspicious challenge! Don't you dare hypocritically excuse yourself from this test of penial fortitude when had I backed away from your challenge, you would have claimed me unmanly! And don't you dare consider yourself a noble BW player when in this moment right here, you flee glorious battle with no legitimate reason!
Lumire's testicles be rabid and his cock be frothing. His eye be open and locked onto it's target. His stomach be hungry and his hair be on end. All he desires Kiante, is that you stop fearfully playing Cat and Mouse in the Jungle and instead partake in epic ZvP warfare.
You Kiante, are like Oscar the Grouch. You viciously rage at the rest of the world, and when it confronts you, you hide with a most insolent manner in your filthy trash can. Admit the terror that you feel in the sights of the beast that seeks to wrestle you out of your disgusting polluted fortress and with a grim custodial duty, mash your genitalia into guacamole. Admit that you are selfishly and grouchily depraving teamliquid of an epic BW grudge match slaughter-fest that should at least slightly entertain a portion of the community whilst it waits for the next BW PL season to begin.
Kiante, Lumire foolishly attempted to diplomatically arrange this duel with you. This backfired on him as you unrighteously used it as an excuse to dodge him whilst also not admitting to a lack of testicles on your part (LOLOLOL hypocrite much?). For this reason I must aid him and promote him as the beast who's come to break you.
So Kiante, I ask you to call upon any pride that you may have, and use it to fight Lumire and die with honor. Else close the lid of your trash can and admit that it is where you belong.
This is all pretty dumb. PK you got beat yet you're still talking mad trash. You have no respect for the grudge match. In gods name why would i buy into another one.
Lets look at this logically. Firstly, theres no grudge here, i never claimed to be better than lumire, i simply beat him in some games i played to disprove your argument of him raping me all the time on smurfs. This doesn't really make sense in terms of what qualifies as a grudge match, it just shows like you're starved for attention because nobody cares about your scan smurf "grudge match" or whatever it is, haven't really paid attention.
Now lets look at the consquences of this. If i win, you guys continue to trash talk me, as you've shown since our grudge match. If i lose it simply compounds your trash talk.
On October 30 2011 21:14 Kiante wrote: This is all pretty dumb. PK you got beat yet you're still talking mad trash. You have no respect for the grudge match. In gods name why would i buy into another one.
Lets look at this logically. Firstly, theres no grudge here, i never claimed to be better than lumire, i simply beat him in some games i played to disprove your argument of him raping me all the time on smurfs. This doesn't really make sense in terms of what qualifies as a grudge match, it just shows like you're starved for attention because nobody cares about your scan smurf "grudge match" or whatever it is, haven't really paid attention.
Now lets look at the consquences of this. If i win, you guys continue to trash talk me, as you've shown since our grudge match. If i lose it simply compounds your trash talk.
You're just a waste of time, go away now. thanks
This is funny because I have also never claimed to be better then you. All I said was that you were a bad player (Lumire called you bad too). If what I did was enough for you to insist on a match, I find it hilarious that you dodge Lumire. He has a right to destroy you after how you portrayed him in the GM thread, plus more BW is better BW.
And the point of the GM is to try to prove yourself a better player in front of a crowd, not just to prove it to your opponent. Face it, you fought someone two ranks lower than you thinking you would easily 3-0 him and instead you almost lost. After the matches you accuse me of playing cheesy and preparing builds to snipe you when you in fact prepared your game 1 build to snipe me, and planned to 10/15 on both of the maps that you chose (however you revealed in your interview that you couldn't 10 /15 game 4 because I scouted you first). I regret that I didn't defeat you but I take satisfaction in knowing that you came out of those matches looking bad.
Now Lumire has a right to challenge you, he doesn't like you, and you're dodging him which by your former logic means that you have no testicles. Your image is already ugly, why not try to prove yourself? More BW is better BW, so stop being such a hypocrite and face him. I know you're afraid of him but man the fuck up. I played you and you're C+ and i'm C- and you called me a coward if I said anything that sounded like a dodge. Lumire is max rank C lol, so go man the fuck up!
@OP Valiant attempt but I think you should salvage some dignity while you can and let this die. Personally, I do wish that Kiante did accept, that would have been awesome. I think you're just naturally too much of a nice guy to pull off the grudge match thing effectively. You need to get some bitterness in your words. Make 'em sting the soul of your enemy when he reads them.
Rather then typing a one word answer, I think that you should just admit that I am correct, or submit to the grudge match. I suspect that the only reason you feel safe to dodge this series is because there is not enough support in the comments to force you to play a GM. It was probably a bad choice by Lumire to try to initiate the series in such a civil manner, he originally planned to write a very bm challenge and he didn't have the foresight to realize that you were likely to dodge a more polite yet straight forward request.
You should be ashamed of yourself for acting in such a spineless hypocritical manner. Perhaps I should not waste time on you. I can generate some very clever BM and I'm starting to get the feeling that you're just not worth the attention considering that in these matches you have acted in such a shameless way. I can only hope that others can see the obvious lack of BW chivalry you posses.
I agree with Kiante, a grudge match is nothing if the opponent refuses to stfu afterwards, so even if there was a grudge with lumire, which their doesn't seem to be, there's really no point in fighting it out because there's nothing to gain.
Seriously, grudge matches are fun, but you need to get serious grudges with lots and lots of serious BM --> Loser accepting defeat. Lives forever in silence.
I don't care whether or not the grudge match is legit or not, I just want a fucking grudge match. You two seem to be getting mad at each other after that OP, so grudge over that. >:|
1) Lumire only knows one ZvP build and thinks that makes him magically good enough for a bo5 grudgematch (Trust me, I know how this works firsthand)
2) Lumire gg's if he gets even slightly behind - pretty much IdrA gg timing.
3) Pretty much any anti-5-hatch-before-gas build will win every game. Look at his map pool. They all have a close third that a Zerg can take and go 5-hatch before gas. Circuit Breakers is the only one with a close third with no gas (I think...)
On October 31 2011 02:39 ninazerg wrote: Kiante should do this because:
1) Lumire only knows one ZvP build and thinks that makes him magically good enough for a bo5 grudgematch (Trust me, I know how this works firsthand)
2) Lumire gg's if he gets even slightly behind - pretty much IdrA gg timing.
3) Pretty much any anti-5-hatch-before-gas build will win every game. Look at his map pool. They all have a close third that a Zerg can take and go 5-hatch before gas. Circuit Breakers is the only one with a close third with no gas (I think...)
lol nina this might have been a better troll if you weren't 4 ranks below me and if u knew I haven't 5 hatch no gas'd in over 3 months
What about Lumire creating 2x wordfeud accounts and then having a wordfeud grudge match bo11 vs himself on a random board with swedish dictionary. That would atleast be equally interesting as to what this op suggests?
Every poster here should obviously grudge match some other poster at slightest provocation. Then there'll be fifty grudge matches, then there will be grudge war.
EPT
. You almost make it sound like a grude-match is going to happen.
