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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 19:02:34
October 29 2011 19:01 GMT
#581
On October 30 2011 03:53 zawk9 wrote:
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On October 30 2011 03:49 babylon wrote:
On October 30 2011 03:45 zawk9 wrote:
On October 30 2011 03:43 Xahhk wrote:
Milkis makes his claim that the only espot is BW, but then he takes the time to clarify what he means with several more paragraphs. He clearly means, he sees 'esport' as something that can lure people in without any prior knowledge.. people just enjoying the spectacle of it.

Isn't he just stating a fact? It's not like he's saying BW is the only competitive game that ever existed.



No. He's defining a word in a way most people don't use it and then making a statement based on that definition.

That was the entire problem. His definition of "eSports" is basically my (and a lot of other people's) definition of "spectator sport." I mean, just talking about regular ol' sports, there are a shit ton of sports out there that aren't very popular to spectate unless you're actually involved or a relative of someone who's involved. Just take something like kendo, for instance.



Exactly. Its like making a post where we define Cats as Elephants and then ending with the conclusion "so it turns out a lot of people have pet elephants." A lot of people got disproportionately offended by this though.

It's because throughout that entire post, he basically implied that every other competitive gaming scene out there is somehow not as legit. That's why people were offended. Not only that, but it seems as if he simply didn't know about any scene except Starcraft. I mean, he may not have intended to hurt other people, but when you post something as controversial as this, you have got to do your research and you've got to be delicate about it.

He should've gotten a second opinion on that post before writing it. Or at least he should've reread it twenty times before posting it and asked himself, "Could I possibly be hurting anyone here with my words?"

He easily could've just said: "BW is the best spectator sport and here is why." And he wouldn't have gotten as much backlash for it, because it's a damn good spectator sport, and I don't think anyone can argue with that.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
October 29 2011 19:01 GMT
#582
Milkis, you translations are awesome! I loved the way you translated everything as you also seem to translate their emotions as well.

Remember all of the hate john got at first? It was totally wrong and slowly people came to appreciate john for what he was to the community. I would not want anyone else translating for john in the GSL and I don't really want anyone one other than you translating for MLG.

As far as "esports". I actually don't really enjoy watching esports other than scbw and sc2. So I understand that aspect, but please stay, we need you!
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
October 29 2011 19:02 GMT
#583
Bye dude, guess we will never know if SC2 could change your opinion. Best of luck in the future.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 29 2011 19:02 GMT
#584
On October 30 2011 03:54 Slasher wrote:
I get shit thrown my way by the Internet, TL, Reddit on nearly a daily basis. As someone in the public eye, you have to expect this, and react rationally. I will always defend my position on points I've made and core beliefs that I have. At the same time, to listen and take in advice, concern and complaints from the outside that are deemed worthy. I believe Milkis BW blog was full of shit and insulting to Quake, Counter-Strike, Street Fighter and other communities that have helped define eSports, but fuck man, at least defend yourself if you truly believe you're right. Don't quit.

This is the perfect attitude to take. If you can't defend your views, they are not worth having. If you can't deal with some of the negativity, thats okay, but trying to blame the community as a whole is just silly, as most people have been hugely supportive of you. Look at all the pro Milkis Reddit threads that exist.




Oh, and:
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fuck slasher
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
machinations
Profile Joined March 2011
United States25 Posts
October 29 2011 19:02 GMT
#585
You're like that guy who when his girlfriend asks him if she looks fat in this dress tells her she could lose a few pounds and then wonders why he got slapped. You do a ton for the community and I wish you would stay, but I don't know what you expected to happen after you made such a scathing and controversial post.
spacek
Profile Joined June 2010
United States213 Posts
October 29 2011 19:02 GMT
#586
On October 30 2011 04:00 nvthis wrote:
play the pity card eh? maybe you shouldnt be such a coward, run and quit over something trolls said. i respect the job you did, however if you dont have enough self confidence to brush ur shoulders off and keep doing what u love then so be it, you probably didnt deserve it to begin with.


a-fucking-men.

also, saying there's only one e-sport is just plain stupid. go fix ur stupid head and come back and translate plz
yaya
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
October 29 2011 19:02 GMT
#587
On October 30 2011 01:07 Chill wrote:
my only thought reading this was "lol"

dont worry milkis, your daddy loves you. see you tomorrow.


And all was well in TL land. Hopefully

WE LOVE YOU MILKIS!!! WE ARE THE 99%!
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
Ventor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States336 Posts
October 29 2011 19:03 GMT
#588
Too many mean people involved with e-sports criticizing your work? Welcome to the world. You won't escape it.
oGsMc - EGHuK - White-Ra - SlayerSBoxeR - STBomber Fighting!~
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 29 2011 19:04 GMT
#589
lol wow BW community never treated you like that :\
Writerptrk
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
October 29 2011 19:05 GMT
#590
This is truly a loss to the community, those expressing negative criticism at an extreme degree were members of a tiny minority, i firmly believe the vast majority of the community loves you and your efforts, I'm so sorry you feel this way. Best of luck in your future endeavours!
Deso
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria88 Posts
October 29 2011 19:05 GMT
#591
Your decision makes me really sad. Nobody else has enough patience and good will towards translating all the Korean articles, reactions and everything in between. Sure you have your own opinion towards esports and everything esport related that conflicts with some other opinions out there, but you are entitled to your own opinion and should be takes as such. The fact that the community took djWheat's lead into criticizing everything you've done for this community makes me feel ashamed of being a part of it. I can only say I'm sorry for the time and effort you have put for our sake and hope that you will find more understanding and appreciation in your future endeavors. Good luck!
zyzski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
October 29 2011 19:05 GMT
#592
this is a bit ridiculous
TYBG
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
October 29 2011 19:05 GMT
#593
On October 30 2011 04:04 ArvickHero wrote:
lol wow BW community never treated you like that :\


To be fair, he never shat on the BW community either
We make signature, then defense it.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 29 2011 19:06 GMT
#594
On October 30 2011 04:05 grobo wrote:
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On October 30 2011 04:04 ArvickHero wrote:
lol wow BW community never treated you like that :\


To be fair, he never shat on the BW community either


He never shat on anything.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 29 2011 19:06 GMT
#595
I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)


Yo why did you make this blog?
why so 진지해?
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
October 29 2011 19:06 GMT
#596
On October 30 2011 04:06 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

Show nested quote +
I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

Show nested quote +
I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

Show nested quote +
I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

Show nested quote +
I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

Show nested quote +
I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

Show nested quote +
I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)

Show nested quote +
I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted)


Yo why did you make this blog?

and the truth comes through.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Ksyper
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Bulgaria665 Posts
October 29 2011 19:07 GMT
#597
This is the fucking internet, how can you take stupid kid's comments seriously?!
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
October 29 2011 19:07 GMT
#598
Goddamn, don't quit, you're a in this 'game' as the community voice.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 19:08:46
October 29 2011 19:07 GMT
#599
On October 30 2011 04:04 ArvickHero wrote:
lol wow BW community never treated you like that :\

He had about 6 front page upvoted we <3 milkis threads after every event. Nobody shit on him till he went and posted a terribly thought out (and blatantly ignorant) opinion piece. Then got called out for it.

Now we are here.
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
October 29 2011 19:08 GMT
#600
If Milkies is so upset by the haters, why not just ignore them and only concern yourself with the positive members of the community?

Huge lulsy overreaction IMO.
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