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renlynn
Profile Joined May 2011
United States276 Posts
October 29 2011 18:51 GMT
#561
I think you worry too much
PopcornColonel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 18:52:15
October 29 2011 18:51 GMT
#562
edit: meant to 'edit'... ignore post
Zerg delenda est.
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
October 29 2011 18:51 GMT
#563
You're ganna leave just because a bunch of fools on reddit said some "shit"? Dude, Starcraft reddit, is a karma whore and look what always appears on the front page... Don't listen to them.

Yea, you kind of spoke out of place yesterday, but we all make mistakes.

Just know that there's a lot of people who appreciate what you do for the starcraft community, and in MLG.
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
hellraiser1110
Profile Joined November 2010
Croatia70 Posts
October 29 2011 18:52 GMT
#564
Quitter... Why are people offended so easily
huyman
Profile Joined March 2011
United States189 Posts
October 29 2011 18:52 GMT
#565
Sucks to hear this, but you really need some thick skin if you are a visible member of the esports scene.
zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
October 29 2011 18:53 GMT
#566
On October 30 2011 03:49 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 03:45 zawk9 wrote:
On October 30 2011 03:43 Xahhk wrote:
Milkis makes his claim that the only espot is BW, but then he takes the time to clarify what he means with several more paragraphs. He clearly means, he sees 'esport' as something that can lure people in without any prior knowledge.. people just enjoying the spectacle of it.

Isn't he just stating a fact? It's not like he's saying BW is the only competitive game that ever existed.



No. He's defining a word in a way most people don't use it and then making a statement based on that definition.

That was the entire problem. His definition of "eSports" is basically my (and a lot of other people's) definition of "spectator sport." I mean, just talking about regular ol' sports, there are a shit ton of sports out there that aren't very popular to spectate unless you're actually involved or a relative of someone who's involved. Just take something like kendo, for instance.



Exactly. Its like making a post where we define Cats as Elephants and then ending with the conclusion "so it turns out a lot of people have pet elephants." A lot of people got disproportionately offended by this though.
there's a bug in the new patch where the other player keeps killing all my dudes.. please nerf this
Blackmamba851
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland52 Posts
October 29 2011 18:53 GMT
#567
I never thought of you as someone who cared what other people think of you or your talents, but whatever. If you honestly can't deal with haters and MLG is to tiring then this obviously wasn't for you and it's good your stepping back for a while. Goodbye it was great while it lasted.
Mr.Rager
Profile Joined August 2011
United States59 Posts
October 29 2011 18:54 GMT
#568
Milkis, I've always enjoyed your translations for MLG and you're quite a personality for the sc2 community. And if that sorta stuff isn't for you..so be it. I'm glad you're moving on to what you really want to do (whatever the happens to be) :D Good luck!
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 18:54:30
October 29 2011 18:54 GMT
#569
I get shit thrown my way by the Internet, TL, Reddit on nearly a daily basis. As someone in the public eye, you have to expect this, and react rationally. I will always defend my position on points I've made and core beliefs that I have. At the same time, to listen and take in advice, concern and complaints from the outside that are deemed worthy. I believe Milkis BW blog was full of shit and insulting to Quake, Counter-Strike, Street Fighter and other communities that have helped define eSports, but fuck man, at least defend yourself if you truly believe you're right. Don't quit.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
October 29 2011 18:55 GMT
#570
Bye Milkis. I enjoyed your work, but it's probably for the best if you can't deal with the fact that there will always be people who disagree with you.
I drop suckas like Plinko
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 29 2011 18:56 GMT
#571
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Don't worry Milkis. I still know for a fact you have the heart of a lion buried under that seething angst filled shell you put up.

I am really offended though. You said you would let Hyung see before posting. I could have saved you!
why so 진지해?
boon2537
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States905 Posts
October 29 2011 18:58 GMT
#572
hooray for drama :/
anyway, best of luck, sir. I appreciate your hard work.
tabbott26
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom379 Posts
October 29 2011 18:58 GMT
#573
I'm sorry to see you leave Milkis, but I have to ask, what happened?

Last time I saw, you were having absolute praise heaped on you for helping to bring MKP to Orlando and being a great translator there....

Did I miss something?
EGHuK - EGIdra - EGDeMuslim - MVPGenius - Liquid'Sheth - ROOTKiwikaki
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
October 29 2011 18:58 GMT
#574
This is why we can't have nice things. The bigger this community grows, the shittier it gets.
You guys saying "man the fuck up", "haters gonna hate", "don't listen to the trolls": guess what? Now he won't have to care about that cause he's done.
o choro é livre
Trict
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada182 Posts
October 29 2011 18:59 GMT
#575
You've done a lot for this community milkis there is no denying this. You play a vital role in everything and our tie to the east. Please reconsider your stance there are so many people who love you. But you may not need to agree with djWheats opinion but you need to be open to the fact that it exists and in his eyes it looked likely you directly insulted everything he loves and many more. You need to be careful with the words you say and develop some thick skin it was a little criticism. You've had such an impact on this community, and now gonna run away because of one mistake, please don't be so foolish and come home to the people who care about you.
nvthis
Profile Joined September 2011
6 Posts
October 29 2011 19:00 GMT
#576
play the pity card eh? maybe you shouldnt be such a coward, run and quit over something trolls said. i respect the job you did, however if you dont have enough self confidence to brush ur shoulders off and keep doing what u love then so be it, you probably didnt deserve it to begin with.
Believersoul
Profile Joined May 2011
34 Posts
October 29 2011 19:01 GMT
#577
Do you think Michale Jordan had no problems getting into the NBA? How do you think he felt when his High School coach told him he was SHIT at the game? It's your choice to let others bring you down, no one can make that decision for you.
It is not the Right now that is important , but the next thing - Day9
Meaver
Profile Joined March 2010
Poland3 Posts
October 29 2011 19:01 GMT
#578
I always found your translation as a very positive and fun Thank you for your hard work. I only hope you change your mind.
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
October 29 2011 19:01 GMT
#579
On October 30 2011 03:53 zawk9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 03:49 babylon wrote:
On October 30 2011 03:45 zawk9 wrote:
On October 30 2011 03:43 Xahhk wrote:
Milkis makes his claim that the only espot is BW, but then he takes the time to clarify what he means with several more paragraphs. He clearly means, he sees 'esport' as something that can lure people in without any prior knowledge.. people just enjoying the spectacle of it.

Isn't he just stating a fact? It's not like he's saying BW is the only competitive game that ever existed.



No. He's defining a word in a way most people don't use it and then making a statement based on that definition.

That was the entire problem. His definition of "eSports" is basically my (and a lot of other people's) definition of "spectator sport." I mean, just talking about regular ol' sports, there are a shit ton of sports out there that aren't very popular to spectate unless you're actually involved or a relative of someone who's involved. Just take something like kendo, for instance.



Exactly. Its like making a post where we define Cats as Elephants and then ending with the conclusion "so it turns out a lot of people have pet elephants." A lot of people got disproportionately offended by this though.


That might be an accurate statement, if, at the same time you insulted everyone who gave their blood sweat and tears to cats, and then told them owning elephants was illegal and all domestic elephants (cats) need to be put down.

By telling everyone else that nothing but Bw is a 'real' esport , I can understand how people see him as spitting on everything.

How would you like it if everything you worked on was fantastic , then got told that it didn't count, because you didn't do this one other event, because it was only played halfway across the globe
moose...indian
ERG`ROB
Profile Joined March 2011
United States27 Posts
October 29 2011 19:01 GMT
#580
Man, im kind of sad. Because Milkis was THE person that gave us information on the koreans opinions. Milkis is such a nice guy, im just sad that he took some of those trolls saying that he was a terrible translator, into heart. Cause you all know that it isnt true, and you all know that milkis is a nice guy. I am disapoint. I dont want to see you go, you brought us so much content
Winning is satisfying, ill do anything to get better, and to win all.
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