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Gharst
Profile Joined April 2011
United States17 Posts
October 29 2011 17:26 GMT
#261
This has to be a joke. He posts a hateful and bias post, and then balls up and cries when no one agrees with him? Deletes his accounts and "quits" eSports? Wait, he didn't quit eSports since to him BW was the only eSport.

And you're all siding with him? What a drama queen. I don't care what amount of work you've done - I did appreciate you before this, but now I just look back on it all like a joke.

Don't worry. We'll replace you, and it'll be better without you. I don't say this because of the quality of your work, you threw all of that away when you decided you'd wake up this morning with a shitty attitude.
NatarmX
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3 Posts
October 29 2011 17:26 GMT
#262
Don't do it Milkis. You posted it on reddit, and it's your opinion. If i were to go to r/atheism and post about my belief in God, I would be pelted with atheist propaganda and people trying to convert me and hate on me about my beliefs. It's the same with you and brood war. I respect your opinion as a Korean American and your love of Brood War and all it has done for today's eSports scene. But going into r/starcraft is the same as my analogy above. Would their hate and propaganda convert me to atheism? No. The same should be for you. You still love SC2 AND Brood War. Strengthen your resolve. People love you Milkis. You've brought so much joy to people throughout the years

If you decide to leave for good, it's your choice. But know that people here love and support you. The haters are a vocal minority. Don't let it get to you.
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
October 29 2011 17:27 GMT
#263
Milkis, everywhere you go people will behave poorly. Don't forget about the people who really appreciate what you've done for the community. I didn't know you weren't involved with MLG directly, and sort of stumbled onto all of this. That's fantastic man, you've done a lot for us. I really hope you'll reconsider.

99% of the hatred belongs to 1% of the community.
I am the 99%, occupy Milkis' heart! <3
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
October 29 2011 17:27 GMT
#264
On October 30 2011 02:22 Talin wrote:
You know, it's very telling that some of the reactions on this thread are just as bad as many on reddit (if not as extreme).

TL has definitely lost much of its etiquette and class over the last year. There's not a lot left that makes it unique any more. Saying that the "internet is evil, don't listen to it" or whatever is easy and you may think saying that makes you look mature or smart in a cynical way, but it really doesn't. Making even a small place on the internet NOT blend into that stereotype is extremely difficult, and not many people care enough to contribute to that anymore.

Milkis is one of those guys who made TL and symbolized the TL community for me, and also one of the rare people whose views on a lot of [s]e-sports[/e] Starcraft related things I can agree with. But I'm not going to ask him to reconsider his decision if he indeed made it, as I don't think TL really deserves guys like him anymore.

Just get a paid translator who will be a nobody with no opinions and will take any bashing in the world for a paycheck. That's the trend in ESPORTS nowadays anyway, isn't it? Professionalism! Yay.

It's all about the context of the community you place it in tho.

Milkis could have posted that exact same thread on the TL BW forum, and it wouldn't have gotten nearly the kind of reaction that it did over on reddit. Yet he chose to make his point on the SC2 reddit, which is not as strictly moderated as TL and attracts a crowd of which only a small percentage have an interest in BW in the first place (much like TL SC2).

It's kind of like coming over to my house and explaining in detail why every piece of furniture I have is terrible and how everything you own is superior. There's a reason people don't react friendly to behaviour like that. Nothing is forbidding you from doing it, but at least be reasonable in the expectations you have.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
October 29 2011 17:27 GMT
#265
Milkies your dedication has grown on me from watching you over the past year. I'm sure others are seeing what you're doing and feel the same way.

However, you are free to make your own decision and I'm sure the community will respect you either way. Good luck
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
airbagface
Profile Joined June 2011
United States8 Posts
October 29 2011 17:27 GMT
#266
this isnt a korean soap opera milkis

there is no crying in baseball and there shouldnt be ny crying in esports either, no one wants your drama....MILKIS GET OUT

User was warned for this post
Mayor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States472 Posts
October 29 2011 17:27 GMT
#267
Bye! See you back in a week Milkis.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 29 2011 17:28 GMT
#268
On October 30 2011 02:26 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 02:22 Talin wrote:
You know, it's very telling that some of the reactions on this thread are just as bad as many on reddit (if not as extreme).

TL has definitely lost much of its etiquette and class over the last year. There's not a lot left that makes it unique any more. Saying that the "internet is evil, don't listen to it" or whatever is easy and you may think saying that makes you look mature or smart in a cynical way, but it really doesn't. Making even a small place on the internet NOT blend into that stereotype is extremely difficult, and not many people care enough to contribute to that anymore.

Milkis is one of those guys who made TL and symbolized the TL community for me, and also one of the rare people whose views on a lot of [s]e-sports[/e] Starcraft related things I can agree with. But I'm not going to ask him to reconsider his decision if he indeed made it, as I don't think TL really deserves guys like him anymore.

Just get a paid translator who will be a nobody with no opinions and will take any bashing in the world for a paycheck. That's the trend in ESPORTS nowadays anyway, isn't it? Professionalism! Yay.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do Milkis.


Yes the world is indeed ending, BW is dieing, TL is apparently a nest of trolls and hate and valuable community members are leaving.

Whatever shall we do.

<__________________>


This is exactly the kind of stuff I'm talking about, thanks for the direct demonstration.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
October 29 2011 17:28 GMT
#269
Hey, I appretiate all the work you've done but you're just being ridiculous. You post an extremly controversial opinion on a website with a userbase that most likely doesn't share your opinion. And then you're suddenly upset when people disagree with you or call you out? Shure, some people stepped across the line of what's acceptable but this is this the internet after all. Happens everywhere.

Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
October 29 2011 17:28 GMT
#270
On October 30 2011 01:07 Chill wrote:
my only thought reading this was "lol"

dont worry milkis, your daddy loves you. see you tomorrow.


Hmm this was my thought as well. I really don't want to come across as rude, but my thoughts yesterday were "I wonder if he will overreact to the situation and quit."

And now that he did all I am thinking is that if he is going to go... then just go. I don't actually think he will leave for good though. Feel free to prove me wrong if you think it is worth it.
Siphonn
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States298 Posts
October 29 2011 17:28 GMT
#271
I like you alot Milkis, but honestly what else were you thinking when you posted that "BW is the only eSport" when you know there are thousands of other players in the other games that put just as much effort into there respective games as Flash and Jaedong. You brought this upon yourself, you know how people on the internet can be, and you shouldnt be surprised at what people are saying to be honest. Man up and be responsible, don't just go and hide once other people voice their opinions too.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 29 2011 17:29 GMT
#272
I just read this and the reddit - thing a bit and I have no idea what's the big deal here.
Milkis thinks something > something else and told something else to fuck themselves.
Isn't that the standard human behaviour?

Who cares, it's just eSports drama. I didn't ask for this.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
October 29 2011 17:29 GMT
#273
Suddenly, posting a ridiculously biased opinion about an easily disagreeable subject on a reputably harsh community site is supposed to spawn only intelligent discussion, with absolutely no flaming involved?

Those expectations aren't unreasonable at all.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
October 29 2011 17:29 GMT
#274
On October 30 2011 02:20 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 02:16 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I feel like anyone who has enjoyed a Milkis translation owes him more than calling him silly or calling his bluff. I wasn't going to write anything but then I remembered that I've benefited from a lot of work that he's given me freely. Keep in mind that Milkis has contributed WAY more to the community than he's taken away. If you think he's making a mistake by posting this and leaving, then you should try to imagine what comment you could write here to get him to change his mind and make him feel comfortable returning and doing more translations. Simply pointing out that it's a mistake is not very helpful =/

It's not that simple. Even if enough people say nice things that convince him to come back, what happens next time someone criticizes him publicly? He gets all emotional again, and quits? If he can't handle that kind of stuff it may be in his best interest for him to leave, as much as I have enjoyed the content he has put out.

He wouldn't return without adjusting his attitude at all. Read my first post in this thread. I already put in my effort to help him change his approach.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
CameronJ
Profile Joined June 2011
United States57 Posts
October 29 2011 17:30 GMT
#275
I think everyone willing to put themselves out in front of 'the public eye' needs to know that they will be made fun of. Some people aren't going to like them and there's nothing you can do about it

I don't think Milkis is gone for good, I think he's just a tad angry and blowing off some steam for a couple of days. I can't imagine anyone leaving what they love because a couple of people told him he's wrong and called him 'mean' names

corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
October 29 2011 17:30 GMT
#276
Completely agreed with your post on reddit. Some of the reactions were pathetic, and as it's the internet, I do imagine you got much worse in "private".
Anyway, if it really is the end, I want to thank you for every translation you ever provided the bw community, I'm not sure you know how much it meant to us.
Never say never though =)
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
October 29 2011 17:30 GMT
#277
On October 30 2011 01:16 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 01:00 Milkis wrote:
I never wanted to be popular nor did I want attention (although I guess I did enjoy it, but it's not something I ever wanted). It's the last thing I wanted.
Would you say that you never asked for this?


hahaha
AGIANTSMURF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1232 Posts
October 29 2011 17:31 GMT
#278
Criticism is a part of life, if anything it just shows how important you are to the community.

Look at sports in america, the greatest athletes in the world get criticized every single day for stupid nonsense....

Does it make them any less of an athlete or a person? No.

Do they just flip tables, and quit? Absolutely not.

If you wanna survive in a world where your business is publicized and criticized then you must be strong and endure the world full of trolls.
Thats "Grand-Master" SMURF to you.....
monXikk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland742 Posts
October 29 2011 17:31 GMT
#279
After ragequiting reddit, twitter, tumblr and now TL I just hope he dont leave the best starcraft community, the good old /v/

But seriously this sums my feelings about all this drama:
On October 25 2011 07:55 Milkis wrote:
how pathetic lol
yet another IdrA's #1 fan
ski107
Profile Joined April 2011
United States62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 17:35:41
October 29 2011 17:31 GMT
#280
Edit: sorry, doubleposted
+5 Insightful
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