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Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
September 30 2011 20:03 GMT
#21
I'm really interested not just by the relatively similarities of the players' success charts, but also by the comparisons you made to their play style.

It would make sense that the first "best" player would be whoever first actually understood what the game was about, followed by those that discoved new things, to be later eclipsed by players that took the fundamentals, the new styles, and then combined it with non-gimmicky skill.

For other people that know the history of chess and/or bw well, does the descriptions he made of those players accurately match the reality?
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 30 2011 20:04 GMT
#22
I don't know if I'm grinning so hard because I'm laughing or not. lol what a badass post.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
September 30 2011 20:04 GMT
#23
This is absolutely amazing. Feature this! the amount of work deserves praise Botvinnik and July <3 Learned something new ^^
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DumJumJmyWum
Profile Joined March 2011
United States75 Posts
September 30 2011 20:10 GMT
#24
This is an amazing piece of work! Those analogies are enlightening, never really knew the history of chess other than Kasparov = bonjwa. Thanks!
Lynda
Profile Joined May 2010
649 Posts
September 30 2011 20:15 GMT
#25
I don't even want to imagine how much effort it must've taken to create that post. Mindblowing comparisons and simply brilliant read. 5/5
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
September 30 2011 20:16 GMT
#26
That was very interesting, I got to the end of it without even noticing adn was left with wanting more. The graphs add a lot.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 30 2011 20:20 GMT
#27
Great read, I would have put it in spotlight but someone beat me to it.

Please carry on as if it was my doing.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 30 2011 20:21 GMT
#28
really good! lol i love the parallels you draw... reminds me of when i actually tried to play chess
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
September 30 2011 20:26 GMT
#29
Wow, I really really loved this article. It gives you so much to "wow" about.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
September 30 2011 20:29 GMT
#30
Great read, although I would have gone with Nada-Botvinnik for their professionalism and especially July-Tal because both used aggression a psychological weapon.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
September 30 2011 20:32 GMT
#31
Very interesting!
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
September 30 2011 20:33 GMT
#32
Amazing post. Fischer truly was the greatest, until the bonjwa Kasparov arrived on the scene.

So many of these posters say they love chess, and they aren't participating in the TL chess match?
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
September 30 2011 20:33 GMT
#33
That was incredible analysis, and comparison.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
September 30 2011 20:33 GMT
#34
On October 01 2011 05:20 heyoka wrote:
I spotlighted this.

Thanks, Heyoka. I never find myself looking in the blog section but some of the most entertaining posts end up in here.
Who dat ninja?
remember87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden144 Posts
September 30 2011 20:34 GMT
#35
soo amazing!
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
September 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#36
On October 01 2011 05:03 Emporio wrote:
I'm really interested not just by the relatively similarities of the players' success charts, but also by the comparisons you made to their play style.

It would make sense that the first "best" player would be whoever first actually understood what the game was about, followed by those that discoved new things, to be later eclipsed by players that took the fundamentals, the new styles, and then combined it with non-gimmicky skill.

For other people that know the history of chess and/or bw well, does the descriptions he made of those players accurately match the reality?


I did my best to match up players who I felt had something important in common, in terms of career progression, history, contribution to the game, and style. July/Botvinnik is probably the biggest stretch - historically they match up very nicely, but stylistically they are very different. Of course, some will probably not agree with some of the comparisons, and in deciding to draw parallels between the histories I was forced to leave out some players who did not have a clear doppelganger.
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
September 30 2011 20:36 GMT
#37
Thanks so much for the spotlight! <3
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
September 30 2011 20:46 GMT
#38
This is amazing.
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
September 30 2011 20:47 GMT
#39
Amazing post.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
September 30 2011 20:48 GMT
#40
Epic! All I can say, this has to be featured. I always found the characters behind the game a lot more interesting in chess than the game itself. And a little refresher on Broodwar history won't do any harm. Very nice.
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