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On September 24 2011 10:56 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +Bonus #2: real answer from a nutrition quiz:
Q) True or False: You should eat a lot of food shortly before going to bed.
A) True What's wrong with this answer? It depends vastly on your goals. If you're trying to put on muscle, for example, you want to eat before sleeping. Eating before sleeping doesn't have any negative effects on metabolism or obesity. For example, http://www.nature.com/?file=/ijo/journal/v21/n5/abs/0800422a.htmlShow nested quote +OBJECTIVE: To examine the association of proportion of daily energy consumed in the evening with weight change over 10 y of follow-up. DESIGN: The data used were from the First National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES I, 1971-75) Epidemiologic Follow-up Study (NHEFS, 1982-84). The analytic cohort included 2580 men and 4567 women aged 25-74 y at baseline (NHANES I, 1971-75). The proportion of energy consumed in the evening (after 5 pm) was estimated from a 24 h dietary recall obtained at baseline. Weight change was defined as the difference between the follow-up and baseline weights. RESULTS: Mean±s.e. of percent energy from evening food intake was 46±0.29 in the analytic cohort. After adjustment for multiple covariates, percent energy from evening food intake and weight change were unrelated in both men and women. CONCLUSION: Extent of evening eating was not a significant predictor of 10 y weight change in the NHEFS cohort. This is another one of those random nutrition fitness myths that is not supported by the science. More studies in the below link: http://www.thatsfit.com/2010/09/21/does-nighttime-eating-lead-to-gain-weight/There are some incidences where hyperphagia may be unregulated and large amounts of calories may be consumed nightly or obese people may be awakened during the night (noctural eating syndrome). However, these specific cases tend to deal with hormonal imbalances (either in ghrelin, leptin, or other hypothalamus signalling) where there are already metabolic dysfunctions present. For the healthy population, it is fine to eat large meals before sleeping without any negative consequences. -------------- Also, thanks for the laughs. Love them all except the last one where the kid actually provided an answer to a question that actually doesn't have a right or wrong answer.
The question was a copy/paste from a powerpoint (that I didn't make actually). Thanks for the heads up.
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On September 24 2011 12:26 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 10:56 eshlow wrote:Bonus #2: real answer from a nutrition quiz:
Q) True or False: You should eat a lot of food shortly before going to bed.
A) True What's wrong with this answer? It depends vastly on your goals. If you're trying to put on muscle, for example, you want to eat before sleeping. Eating before sleeping doesn't have any negative effects on metabolism or obesity. For example, http://www.nature.com/?file=/ijo/journal/v21/n5/abs/0800422a.htmlOBJECTIVE: To examine the association of proportion of daily energy consumed in the evening with weight change over 10 y of follow-up. DESIGN: The data used were from the First National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES I, 1971-75) Epidemiologic Follow-up Study (NHEFS, 1982-84). The analytic cohort included 2580 men and 4567 women aged 25-74 y at baseline (NHANES I, 1971-75). The proportion of energy consumed in the evening (after 5 pm) was estimated from a 24 h dietary recall obtained at baseline. Weight change was defined as the difference between the follow-up and baseline weights. RESULTS: Mean±s.e. of percent energy from evening food intake was 46±0.29 in the analytic cohort. After adjustment for multiple covariates, percent energy from evening food intake and weight change were unrelated in both men and women. CONCLUSION: Extent of evening eating was not a significant predictor of 10 y weight change in the NHEFS cohort. This is another one of those random nutrition fitness myths that is not supported by the science. More studies in the below link: http://www.thatsfit.com/2010/09/21/does-nighttime-eating-lead-to-gain-weight/There are some incidences where hyperphagia may be unregulated and large amounts of calories may be consumed nightly or obese people may be awakened during the night (noctural eating syndrome). However, these specific cases tend to deal with hormonal imbalances (either in ghrelin, leptin, or other hypothalamus signalling) where there are already metabolic dysfunctions present. For the healthy population, it is fine to eat large meals before sleeping without any negative consequences. -------------- Also, thanks for the laughs. Love them all except the last one where the kid actually provided an answer to a question that actually doesn't have a right or wrong answer. The question was a copy/paste from a powerpoint (that I didn't make actually). Thanks for the heads up.
S'all good 
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From a wellness perspective eating before you go to bed can negatively affect your sleep, I believe.
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On September 23 2011 11:09 micronesia wrote:
Q) A students walks with a speed of 2 m/s for 5 s. How far did she walk?
A) v=d/t = 5/2 = 2.5m/s
Hahahaha! Best one!
There was another, I think there is a situation where you want to eat before you sleep. My friend that works out a lot and is very health concious does this.
Edit: Ok yeah there's a post above with stuffs on that.
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I am very sad that I have experienced similar things such that I'm not surprised at all by some of these answers. Here's some I've seen off the top of my head. Note that these came from seniors in high school who I was attempting to help pass the CAHSEE (California's hs exit exam which should really be an entrance exam)
What is 50% of 100?
90
The time is 4:43 If it takes me 45 minutes to walk to school, when will I arrive?
6:00
What is the perimeter of a square of side length 2?
4
What is the area of a circle of radius 3, given that the area = pi * r^2
5 (I've found they say a random number without thinking if they don't know how to approach the problem)
x + 5 = 7 what is the value of x?
x = 7/5
The one that takes the cake was when I verbally asked what 10+7 was. He needed paper and took around 2 minutes of incorrect answers such as 3, 12, and 27 before reaching the correct answer.
Based off my experiences with these people, I have to say one huge problem is how little is required to pass grades. Sure there are plenty of other factors such as teachers, money, family problems, etc. but at the end of day, why are these kids who can't do the most basic problems allowed to advance through middle and high school? That's a rhetorical question btw; I know the answer but that's exactly why we end up with 14+ year olds who lack any reasonable thinking capabilities and inevitably barely scrape by high school, if at all.
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Unless there was a brain fart situation, how can anyone at that age get those questions incorrect. By then its imbedded into your knowledge, the answers should be instantaneous or total "mind reflex"...
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I like to think they were kidding.
They weren't.
I'm taking stats in uni right now and the teacher said something obvious like 100 * 1.5 = 150, it's like 100+50%... and the girl was like well if 200-50%=100, how come 100+50% isn't 200...
I was like WTF am I doing here... I've done stats before, and calculus, and linear algebra - and yet I have to deal with this entry level class where people utter the stupidest garbage...
Anyway getting off topic sorry!
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On September 24 2011 14:50 Disregard wrote:
Unless there was a brain fart situation, how can anyone at that age get those questions incorrect. By then its imbedded into your knowledge, the answers should be instantaneous or total "mind reflex"...
That's exactly the problem. These kids never bothered to actually learn this material (or at best, failed to do so despite trying), so it's not even close to being embedded, let alone being instantaneous, yet they're allowed (and "forced") into the next grade.
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On September 23 2011 11:09 micronesia wrote:
PS I heard a couple of stories the past couple of years about a 9th grader being unable to tell time on an analogue clock
Couple of stories? That's a quarter of my fucking high school. For another quarter it takes them about 15 seconds to read it.
Oh well, some people just don't know things.
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On September 24 2011 15:13 Schmieds wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 11:09 micronesia wrote:
PS I heard a couple of stories the past couple of years about a 9th grader being unable to tell time on an analogue clock
Couple of stories? That's a quarter of my fucking high school. For another quarter it takes them about 15 seconds to read it. Oh well, some people just don't know things.
Someday people with digital watches will get laid?
Frightening.
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On September 24 2011 14:54 Djzapz wrote:
I was like WTF am I doing here... I've done stats before, and calculus, and linear algebra - and yet I have to deal with this entry level class where people utter the stupidest garbage...
Haha I'm going to be in a somewhat similar situation in the spring I think... more info on that to come later on!
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although its not something to laugh about,its so damn funny!
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On September 24 2011 14:03 KazeHydra wrote:
I am very sad that I have experienced similar things such that I'm not surprised at all by some of these answers. Here's some I've seen off the top of my head. Note that these came from seniors in high school who I was attempting to help pass the CAHSEE (California's hs exit exam which should really be an entrance exam)
What is 50% of 100?
90
The time is 4:43 If it takes me 45 minutes to walk to school, when will I arrive?
6:00
What is the perimeter of a square of side length 2?
4
What is the area of a circle of radius 3, given that the area = pi * r^2
5 (I've found they say a random number without thinking if they don't know how to approach the problem)
x + 5 = 7 what is the value of x?
x = 7/5
The one that takes the cake was when I verbally asked what 10+7 was. He needed paper and took around 2 minutes of incorrect answers such as 3, 12, and 27 before reaching the correct answer.
Based off my experiences with these people, I have to say one huge problem is how little is required to pass grades. Sure there are plenty of other factors such as teachers, money, family problems, etc. but at the end of day, why are these kids who can't do the most basic problems allowed to advance through middle and high school? That's a rhetorical question btw; I know the answer but that's exactly why we end up with 14+ year olds who lack any reasonable thinking capabilities and inevitably barely scrape by high school, if at all.
My thoughts are, if they're THIS bad, it's not the fact that school is so easy to get through (it is) but that it's even easier to cheat for the most part. If they're that far gone I can't imagine them even being able to do simple homework, which means someone's probably doing it for them.
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Holy shit, it must be at least a bit depressing to have to deal with those students. I wonder how this sort of ignorance of the world is allowed to happen.
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On September 25 2011 00:40 Attican wrote:
Holy shit, it must be at least a bit depressing to have to deal with those students. I wonder how this sort of ignorance of the world is allowed to happen.
The irony is it is often the very efforts to prevent 'this sort of ignorance' that causes it.
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On September 24 2011 14:54 Djzapz wrote:
-_-
I like to think they were kidding.
They weren't.
I'm taking stats in uni right now and the teacher said something obvious like 100 * 1.5 = 150, it's like 100+50%... and the girl was like well if 200-50%=100, how come 100+50% isn't 200%...
I was like WTF am I doing here... I've done stats before, and calculus, and linear algebra - and yet I have to deal with this entry level class where people utter the stupidest garbage...
Anyway getting off topic sorry!
lol I love lectures when someone asks a question that the lecturer just answered a minute ago. That person always gets the "are you retarded?"-look.
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Any tips for getting home work done when you have an urge to procrastinate every time you know you should be doing it? I personally suffer from this and currently am doing all my home work in a study hall but when it comes to actually doing it at home well... 
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On September 25 2011 03:09 3FFA wrote:Any tips for getting home work done when you have an urge to procrastinate every time you know you should be doing it? I personally suffer from this and currently am doing all my home work in a study hall but when it comes to actually doing it at home well...
Varies from person to person but having a routine might help... always do your hw at a certain time, etc
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On September 25 2011 00:12 Complete wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2011 14:03 KazeHydra wrote:
I am very sad that I have experienced similar things such that I'm not surprised at all by some of these answers. Here's some I've seen off the top of my head. Note that these came from seniors in high school who I was attempting to help pass the CAHSEE (California's hs exit exam which should really be an entrance exam)
What is 50% of 100?
90
The time is 4:43 If it takes me 45 minutes to walk to school, when will I arrive?
6:00
What is the perimeter of a square of side length 2?
4
What is the area of a circle of radius 3, given that the area = pi * r^2
5 (I've found they say a random number without thinking if they don't know how to approach the problem)
x + 5 = 7 what is the value of x?
x = 7/5
The one that takes the cake was when I verbally asked what 10+7 was. He needed paper and took around 2 minutes of incorrect answers such as 3, 12, and 27 before reaching the correct answer.
Based off my experiences with these people, I have to say one huge problem is how little is required to pass grades. Sure there are plenty of other factors such as teachers, money, family problems, etc. but at the end of day, why are these kids who can't do the most basic problems allowed to advance through middle and high school? That's a rhetorical question btw; I know the answer but that's exactly why we end up with 14+ year olds who lack any reasonable thinking capabilities and inevitably barely scrape by high school, if at all. My thoughts are, if they're THIS bad, it's not the fact that school is so easy to get through (it is) but that it's even easier to cheat for the most part. If they're that far gone I can't imagine them even being able to do simple homework, which means someone's probably doing it for them.
Yes, that's part of the problem as well, but sometimes is irrelevant. Teachers sometimes offer ridiculous amounts of extra credit that are beyond easy to do (usually far easier than homework and is some "artistic" project rather than something requiring thinking), and I wonder whether they do this for the sake of "passing" these kinds of students. I also recall talking to one high school teacher about a student and she said something along the lines of "if he would just attempt the exams, I would pass him." WTF? No need to cheat if you can pass by just taking the exam.
I'm not trying to generalize all teachers, of course. But the fact that some portion of teachers are willing to pass students who clearly are not prepared to go to the next level needs to stop.
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So lemme get this shit straight
Titanic discovered North America in 1992 (right around the time Nirvana were in their prime!)
But Columbus (whoever the fuck that is!) discovered it earlier, more accurately 2050bc.
Meanwhile, Darwin is out discovering pressure.
History man. Can't argue with it.
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