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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 03:06:56
September 18 2011 05:17 GMT
#1
Hey guys, this is my first blog and I hate to start off my TL blogging experience in such a negative way, but something’s been bothering me for the past few days. How the fuck do you get rid of unwanted guests? Ok for some context:

I went to Germany for one year on an exchange trip a few years back. In the first month when I was learning the language I was staying with a host family. The parents were super nice to me, but the son of that family just totally ignored me and would pretend I wasn’t even there. Seriously over that 1 month period we didn’t speak more than 10 sentences to each other. Anyways after that one month I went off to my permanent host family for the rest of the year, which is all good and everything.

Fast-forward 4 years to now. A few months ago, the son of this first family that I absolutely does not get along with, sends me an email asking if he and 2 of his friends can stay at my house for 2-3 days because they are flying to NZ for a work experience trip. They wanted to crash at my place while they recovered from jetlag and buy a car so they can travel the country. I said yes, since his parents were so nice to me but I really didn’t want to.

Anyways they arrived on Monday and my parents and I treated them very well. We took them to dinner, gave them the only spare room of the house (which is actually my mum’s office where she runs her business). My dad took 3 days off work to show them around Auckland and buy a car, my mum took the effort to arrange jobs for them…etc. I think we have done our part. However they just won’t fucking take a hint and leave. First, they came to a foreign country halfway across the world with $30 NZD. That’s 20 Euros. Just barely enough to get a SIM card for their phones. So we buy all the food, drinks and shit they need for them. Then because they didn’t bring more money, they of course can’t afford a car with 30 dollars. So we had to wait 3 days for a bank transfer. This caused them to overstay til Saturday. Now they’ve got their car and can drive around, but STILL won’t fucking leave, even though we keep hinting at what their plan is, when they want to work etc. They say they want to see Auckland more and will stay until next Wednesday. That’s 10 fucking days, 5x longer than what he asked me for. They’re the worst guests I’ve ever had. Every day they just sit in my house and play Playstation. They say they want to explore Auckland, but today is the first day they’ve fucking gone out. The past 4 days they just stayed home. Then when my mum or I cook food they don’t even say thank you, they eat it and just leave all the washing and cleaning to us. Today I came home and found EIGHT fucking unwashed glass cups in the sink and 3 dirty plates and forks/knives. It’s getting extremely frustrating and I’m just so fucking pissed off today. Am I just being too unreasonable? Or is it too much to expect for 3 grown men aged 20-22 to fucking clean up after themselves? Are all Germans like this? How do you make them leave without basically resulting to kicking them out and being a dick?

Phew that felt good to rant…

UPDATED:
Hi guys just an update, they left Wednesday morning at 10am like they promised. They even got us gifts and thanked us for our hospitality. They did sharpen up their act a wee bit at the end since they started doing their own dishes when they had breakfast. However the main guy whose family hosted me was probably the worst at that (he'd always be the last to do anything). He's also a sneaky little cunt. I was checking the internet usage over the past week and it was fine, but in the last 2 days he decided he'd sleep on our couch instead of in the room. When my dad asked him why he said he can't stand the snoring of his friend. But instead he was actually using skype to video chat with his girlfriend. So in the last 2 days, our internet usage jumped up to 4-5GB per day, adding to about 9 GBs used in just the past 2 days. Now I'm not sure if you guys know this, but New Zealand has the most expensive internet in the world. It costs us $105 NZD for a landline and 60GB bandwidth per month (it was 40GB limit only 2 months ago). I had specifically told him that before he came, that NZ internet is very limited and expensive. And on the last few days he lies to my dad about his intentions and uses up our data. So last night before i went to bed I unplugged the modem. Oh and guess what? Before he went he had the audacity to ask if he could stay with us again for a few days before he left for Germany. I gave him a flat "no"


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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 05:24:01
September 18 2011 05:22 GMT
#2
Wait...

you don't want to be a dick to them but they treat your place like a pig sty, lie about their intentions and mistreat you more than you've ever treated their house when you lived there.

Get out your timberland boots and kick them out. Say: "Thank you for visiting, we hope you enjoyed Auckland, but it's to leave and it's time for you to get on with your lives. We're not your parents, we're not your friends. We are civilized and humble enough to let you in our homes, but we're not courteous enough for you to consider it your home nor treat us with a level of disrespect that opposes what we grant you."

Kick them out. Ask them to blatantly leave and if they don't: Call the police and explain to them the situation.

It's very simple, it just requires confrontation or being a bit more direct. They're clearly being ignorant because they know they can take advantage of you.

The more childish way is throw their shit on the lawn, give them a valentine's card that has no real relevance and wave when they check through the window.

That or talk shit to them, don't feed them, don't give them anything and continuously exaggerate the difference between Nazi Germany squatting on your country and these people.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
September 18 2011 05:39 GMT
#3
Ouch, that's just painful man
If it does get too out of hand, better let the authorities (police) deal with it
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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 05:40:53
September 18 2011 05:39 GMT
#4
The thing is I don't want to be a bad host, plus his parents were very nice to me and I stayed with them for a month. I think they probably aren't doing this maliciously, but just because it's their first time ever out of their own mommies houses and don't know how things work in the real world. Wish they would just grow up though.

Like they just had no plans at all. They thought it'll be quick to do international bank transfer, easy to find a car and work...etc. We've ended up having to plan things for them
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
September 18 2011 05:41 GMT
#5
it sounds more like you never asked them to leave, you just keep hoping they'll leave. he probably thinks because you spent a month as his guest that he can spend a month at your place. if you're the one in charge then be more assertive and tell them they have X days to leave because you need your home back.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 18 2011 05:50 GMT
#6
On September 18 2011 14:39 fuzzy_panda wrote:
The thing is I don't want to be a bad host, plus his parents were very nice to me and I stayed with them for a month. I think they probably aren't doing this maliciously, but just because it's their first time ever out of their own mommies houses and don't know how things work in the real world. Wish they would just grow up though.

Like they just had no plans at all. They thought it'll be quick to do international bank transfer, easy to find a car and work...etc. We've ended up having to plan things for them


No matter how you rationalize it, the situation remains the same and your duty as well. Tell them they have to leave. Simply put.

When asked why, you simply tell them everything they did or done wrong.

To have them grow up would be for you to treat them like adults. Be forward. They came with only 30$, how ridiculous is that?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
oberhofer
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Germany98 Posts
September 18 2011 05:51 GMT
#7
Talk to them about it. Be nice, but be clear that you're serious about it, be direct. Tell them they should get their priorities right.

1. Let them know how dumb it is for them to be in NZ (I'd kill to get there) and staying inside to play PS.
2. Tell them that you expected them to stay for just 2 days and that if they wanted to stay longer should somehow contribute to keeping the household (only add this if you're willing to have them there a little longer) and that you can't really be babysitting (supergood term) them all the time.


And if that doesn't work: call the boy's parents lol
SC2 catchphrase.
Truedot
Profile Joined August 2011
444 Posts
September 18 2011 05:54 GMT
#8
well, from what you describe, it sounds like he was kicked out by his parents as well, for being a douche. Now he's couch surfing on the good graces of anyone he's come in contact with. you got suckered. Ask them to leave by tomorrow and find a hotel. you can be as nice as you want about it. Say that you need to have the house back because you don't like how they're living in it.

just be honest with them. It'll help them out in the long run and it certainly will defuse the situation if you're calm and rational. Don't make "never" or "always" statemenst and avoid blame. Just say "you feel like they aren't doing all they can to make their stay as stress free on you as possible, which is something you'd expect from guests."

But keep your finger on the emergency button on the phone at all times.
I used to spend my time not caring about people's language in chat. Until I got hit by blizz. Now I spend my time instigating people to verbal abusive levels, so I can ban them in turn. The circle of life.
Gprime
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada198 Posts
September 18 2011 05:54 GMT
#9
Agree with torte. a situation like this calls for a confrontation. You could even just notify them that they are leaving in 2 days, or tomorrow, and not give them any choice.its your house and you've let them stay longer than the originally planned duration already. you have reason for complaint, but you cant really complain because its partly your fear of confrontation that has kept them there so long.

alternatively you could just tell them that if they want to stay they must clean up their act and be gracious guests.
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5739 Posts
September 18 2011 05:58 GMT
#10
Call his parents, tell them about his(/their) behavior and discuss it with them. It were his parents that provided you a place,
Also talk to your parents, then let them talk to the boys. It's your parents' place after all.
Have your parents set them some house-rules and if they don't follow these simple rules, kick them out immediately. They should be old enough to get the idea.
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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
September 18 2011 06:12 GMT
#11
Thanks for the suggestions guys. The thing is I'm totally keen to just lay it out in front of them, but both my parents disagree with me vehemently. They say that his parents did a lot for me and they are forever grateful to them, so even though we are looking after them for longer than expected we should still treat them well.
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
September 18 2011 06:16 GMT
#12
Tell them you will have other guests in 2 days, so u need the room?
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 18 2011 06:43 GMT
#13
Hate to be neagtive and disagree with your parents but you'll only enable them. They'll sit there and suck up your money and time until you make them leave. Don't lie or obfuscate. Just tell them to leave. Good luck, life is hard and unpleasant sometimes.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 18 2011 06:48 GMT
#14
You're allowed to ask them to leave, there is nothing wrong with that. I don't see your parents objecting to a simple request.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
September 18 2011 06:49 GMT
#15
Lets join forces and kick their asses out of your house, where do you live?

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Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
September 18 2011 06:53 GMT
#16
I think if you're just honest with them in a polite way it would be best. If they leave dirty shit around call them out. If they say they are leaving but don't, call them out. It definitely is a shitty situation but if you're too worried about how other people will perceive you and your actions you won't be able to get things done.

Your parents sound really, really nice. Regardless, if you want them out it's obviously going to be up to you to do it.

Good luck! Let us know of any updates.
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
September 18 2011 07:07 GMT
#17
If you have a clean concience from you stay with their parents (as in, you did all the things while you were there that you expect them to do now) I say you owe it to these youngsters to show them what is acceptable and what is not. They deserve to know that they need to shape up, youre not doing them any favour by silently taking all the crap.
underscore
Profile Joined August 2009
252 Posts
September 18 2011 07:23 GMT
#18
You have to be direct with Germans.
No hints, smiles or anything just tell them they have to be gone by tomorrow.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
September 18 2011 07:51 GMT
#19
If your parents are telling you it's ok, just try to get over it.

1. It speaks enough of your parents to have mutual respect for his parents even though they would probably never know how disrespectful their son was.

2. Even if you never did anything wrong when you stayed at his house, just the fact that their was a possibility he didn't want you there for no reason at all, and his parents were nice to you, means that you should be able to deal with this for a few extra days.

3. If anything you both should learn from your parents. Even if he doesn't, you should from yours.

I can feel for you. That would make me very upset as well, but I give much respect to your parents.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
September 18 2011 09:18 GMT
#20
don't be a wuss, it's your house.

Whichever one of your family is closest to them should pull one of them to the side and tell them eyes to eyes that you think they should leave the next morning. Tell them politely. If they still try to override it, unleash hell/police.

It's your house, your rules.
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