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th2pun1sh3r
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States107 Posts
September 18 2011 09:19 GMT
#21
I dunno that situation kinda sucks. I mean they let you stay for a month so its not like you can just be a dick and kick them out you know. Hope it all works out- try not to call the police lol.
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Acnologia
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia410 Posts
September 18 2011 09:25 GMT
#22
On September 18 2011 15:16 tenacity wrote:
Tell them you will have other guests in 2 days, so u need the room?


Yeah that's what i was thinking
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HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 10:34:02
September 18 2011 10:32 GMT
#23
THOSE EFFIN BM EUROS!

On a more serious note, you can't really get rid of them without insulting their parents, coz they'll sure as hell tell them you kicked them out. So I'd suggest just making their stay less and less comfy. Cut the playstation, give them dry bread and water to eat. All and all I guess if you'd just talk to them about it they'd understand. Saying 'dude, you've come here for a work experience and all you do is sit on your ass all day long. dude get real or gg no re'. But sinde they let you stay at their place for a month, you cant kick them out, you might just wanna make em move a little.
oh, hai
Sablar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden880 Posts
September 18 2011 11:14 GMT
#24
I don't think hinting is enough and the easiest way out is just telling them the truth.

Not that truth that they are bm, annoying and unwelcome. But instead all those things in nicer words, from the perspective of what you need instead of what is wrong with them. Probably needs to be made clear and not some vague "it would be nice if.." "maybe next..". Hinting obviously isn't working.
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 15:17:18
September 18 2011 15:15 GMT
#25
You're obviously dealing with a bunch of sociopaths. Anybody that disregards decency and plays the social game (i.e. you owe / i disregard signals) need to be dealt with straight up. What you basically are doing now is feeding and housing people who pray on your sympathy. You don't owe him shit, you owe his parents for what they have done for you. You are talking about different human beings, but its only association telling you otherwise, Be straight up, polite, but be sure to kick those fuckers out.

Edit: Leave the blog conspicuously open and hope they read it!
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 04:27:43
September 18 2011 18:15 GMT
#26
On September 19 2011 00:15 Aphasie wrote:
You don't owe him shit, you owe his parents for what they have done for you. You are talking about different human beings, but its only association telling you otherwise.
His parents would feel thankful or upset about his treatment by association.

fuzzy_panda:
They arrived on Monday. We took them to dinner, gave them the only spare room of the house (which is actually my mum's office where she runs her business). My dad took 3 days off work to show them around Auckland and buy a car, my mum took the effort to arrange jobs for them…etc.

So we buy all the food, drinks and shit they need for them. Then because they didn't bring more money, of course they couldn't afford a car with 30 dollars. So we had to wait 3 days for a bank transfer. This caused them to overstay until Saturday. Now they've got their car and can drive around, but STILL won't fucking leave, even though we keep hinting at what their plan is, when they want to work etc. They say they will stay until next Wednesday.

That's 10 fucking days, 3x longer than what he asked me for. They're the worst guests I've ever had. Every day they just sit in my house and play Playstation. They say they want to explore Auckland, but today is the first day they've fucking gone out. The past 4 days they just stayed home. Then when my mum or I cook food they don't even say thank you, they eat it and just leave all the washing and cleaning to us. Today I came home and found EIGHT fucking unwashed glass cups in the sink and 3 dirty plates and forks/knives.

It's getting extremely frustrating and I'm just so fucking pissed off today. How do you make them leave without basically resulting to kicking them out and being a dick?

His parents were very nice to me and I stayed with them for a month. I think they probably aren't doing this maliciously, but just because it's their first time ever out of their own mommies houses and don't know how things work in the real world.

Like they just had no plans at all. They thought it'll be quick to do international bank transfer, easy to find a car and work...etc. We've ended up having to plan things for them.

The thing is I'm totally keen to just lay it out in front of them, but both my parents disagree with me vehemently. They say that his parents did a lot for me and they are forever grateful to them, so even though we are looking after them for longer than expected we should still treat them well.
I recommend that you tell his parents everything. Check for anything suspicious about his trip.

Your parents don't want to kick them out or rebuke their behaviour. At least convince your parents to set obligations - dish-washing, laundry, cleaning, chores - that the guests have to perform for the rest of their stay. Also confirm their departure date (Wednesday).

On September 18 2011 14:58 s.Q.uelched wrote:
(1) Call his parents, tell them about his(/their) behavior and discuss it with them.
(2) Have your parents set them some house-rules and if they don't follow these simple rules, kick them out immediately.
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
September 18 2011 18:38 GMT
#27
ask them if they need help finding a hotel
Kolgrim
Profile Joined December 2010
Lithuania31 Posts
September 18 2011 19:34 GMT
#28
I know these kind of people, they are leeches. My brother is like that (23 years old). they don't clean after them selves, don't do any chores, don't work or pay for anything. And they think it's their fucking right. I don't even get a "thank you" for paying his god damn debts.

You are lucky you just need to confront them and kick them out, I have to live with one who just whines to my parents how he is deppressed and shit, so I can't kick him out.

Don't let these people stay, get rid of them A.S.A.P. And don't feel sorry for them, they are not thankful for your hospitality.
"If I don't sweat again today, I will be crying tears tomorrow" SlayerS_MMA
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
September 18 2011 19:59 GMT
#29
On September 19 2011 04:34 Kolgrim wrote:
I know these kind of people, they are leeches. My brother is like that (23 years old). they don't clean after them selves, don't do any chores, don't work or pay for anything. And they think it's their fucking right. I don't even get a "thank you" for paying his god damn debts.

You are lucky you just need to confront them and kick them out, I have to live with one who just whines to my parents how he is deppressed and shit, so I can't kick him out.

Don't let these people stay, get rid of them A.S.A.P. And don't feel sorry for them, they are not thankful for your hospitality.

Link your parents to this blog and tell them how you feel.

@OP:
On September 18 2011 14:58 s.Q.uelched Wrote:Call his parents, tell them about his(/their) behavior and discuss it with them. It were his parents that provided you a place,
Also talk to your parents, then let them talk to the boys. It's your parents' place after all.
ask that your parents set them some house-rules and if they don't follow these simple rules, kick them out immediately. They should be old enough to get the idea.

This is exactly what I would do. Underlined in the quote is wording I changed, bold what was underlined in the original post. Don't give up on convincing your parents.

Topic for discussion: Should he just call his parents even if his own parent's don't agree?
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Fatal Fury
Profile Joined September 2011
16 Posts
September 19 2011 01:45 GMT
#30
The problem with Asians is that they're always afraid to offend anyone and as a result they end up getting walked all over by the Aryans - whether it be in jobs where instead of being promoted to managerial roles they're stuck kissing white managerial ass in accounting and convince themselves it's because they're being good at what they do since they were good at maths at school or in relationships where the nerd gets cuckolded by the girl who's only with him for the gifts, or supermarket lanes when another customer pushes in front of them and they're too polite to put their foot down. Don't let your parents keep you down. Grow some balls... The balls your father never passed on to you because he's a pushover:

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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 08:58:04
September 19 2011 08:55 GMT
#31
After discussing with my parents they have informed me that yeah these guys have made arrangements to leave Wednesday morning, so I think I'll just tough it out. I've pretty much just started telling them what to do. Like when I'm cooking dinner and those three are standing there looking at the kitchen like retards I told them to set the table (jesus christ you have to tell that to 20 year olds before eating?), and after dinner i told them to wash the plates while i take out the trash. Like I said what they're doing is not suspicious or malicious, these cunts are just really so dumb that they have no idea how to behave like mature adults.

The problem with Asians is that they're always afraid to offend anyone and as a result they end up getting walked all over by the Aryans - whether it be in jobs where instead of being promoted to managerial roles they're stuck kissing white managerial ass in accounting and convince themselves it's because they're being good at what they do since they were good at maths at school or in relationships where the nerd gets cuckolded by the girl who's only with him for the gifts, or supermarket lanes when another customer pushes in front of them and they're too polite to put their foot down. Don't let your parents keep you down. Grow some balls... The balls your father never passed on to you because he's a pushover:


wtf dude? this has nothing to do with me being Asian. if it were my house i would've kicked them out ages ago. my parents are doing this because they are grateful that his parents looked after me for a month when i went to germany. they feel like they should be able to talk to these guys like they are adults, and so they simply imply and hint at things. most mature adults understand hints quite easily
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
September 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#32
Fuzzy, i don't agree with you.

You're making a big fuss out of something you should have a better understanding of.

From what you wrote, it looks like that guy is nothing but a spoiled brat, a not so well socially integrated guy. He lacks understanding of even basic social issues. I think his friends may be just like him. They aren't doing it on purpose, or being bad or trying to walk over you, they just don't get it... what it seems normal for some, it's not for others who are socially non-adapted. I mean, Jesus they came with 30$?! Imagine them as kids who just now meet the real life.

You should have more patience, you did stay at his place for a month, even if you are of course acting a lot better and have basic understanding of social relations and needs for living with someone. I understand your frustration but honestly it's not that well founded.

You are more mature, maybe you can help them in a non-offensive way to explain some things about "life" and how to act. They will eventually going to shape-up and understand some basic behavior notions.
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
September 19 2011 09:53 GMT
#33
On September 18 2011 14:17 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Are all Germans like this?

On September 19 2011 17:55 fuzzy_panda wrote:
wtf dude? this has nothing to do with me being Asian.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
September 19 2011 10:58 GMT
#34
You should have more faith in your parents that they know what they are doing, and you should chill and just put up with it.
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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
September 19 2011 11:54 GMT
#35
On September 19 2011 18:53 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 14:17 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Are all Germans like this?

Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 17:55 fuzzy_panda wrote:
wtf dude? this has nothing to do with me being Asian.


thank you for pointing out my hypocrisy. I retract anything derogatory i said about Germans in my first post (and seeing how i was there for a year i know for a fact most of them aren't like this). I was just going off on a rant and i guess i went a bit overboard
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
September 19 2011 12:03 GMT
#36
On September 19 2011 20:54 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 18:53 qrs wrote:
On September 18 2011 14:17 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Are all Germans like this?

On September 19 2011 17:55 fuzzy_panda wrote:
wtf dude? this has nothing to do with me being Asian.


thank you for pointing out my hypocrisy. I retract anything derogatory i said about Germans in my first post (and seeing how i was there for a year i know for a fact most of them aren't like this). I was just going off on a rant and i guess i went a bit overboard
I'm impressed that you're not being defensive about it. Props.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
September 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#37
So did you tell your unwanted guests to GTFO yet? I'm curious to know how this fiasco turned out.
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Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
September 19 2011 12:51 GMT
#38
Man the fuck up and tell them to get the hell out.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 19 2011 16:18 GMT
#39
Do what torte said. Either be direct with them and throw them out, or make their lives fucking miserable.
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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 03:06:31
September 21 2011 03:04 GMT
#40
Hi guys just an update, they left Wednesday morning at 10am like they promised. They even got us gifts and thanked us for our hospitality. They did sharpen up their act a wee bit at the end since they started doing their own dishes when they had breakfast. However the main guy whose family hosted me was probably the worst at that (he'd always be the last to do anything). He's also a sneaky little cunt. I was checking the internet usage over the past week and it was fine, but in the last 2 days he decided he'd sleep on our couch instead of in the room. When my dad asked him why he said he can't stand the snoring of his friend. But instead he was actually using skype to video chat with his girlfriend. So in the last 2 days, our internet usage jumped up to 4-5GB per day, adding to about 9 GBs used in just the past 2 days. Now I'm not sure if you guys know this, but New Zealand has the most expensive internet in the world. It costs us $105 NZD for a landline and 60GB bandwidth per month (it was 40GB limit only 2 months ago). I had specifically told him that before he came, that NZ internet is very limited and expensive. And on the last few days he lies to my dad about his intentions and uses up our data. So last night before i went to bed I unplugged the modem. Oh and guess what? Before he went he had the audacity to ask if he could stay with us again for a few days before he left for Germany. I gave him a flat "no"
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