• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:51
CEST 01:51
KST 08:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 239ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 What is your PC setup in 2026 for SCBW/SC2 ? Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4268 users

Z, T, P = Poor, Middle class, Rich

Blogs > FourFace
Post a Reply
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-12 09:31:42
September 10 2011 21:00 GMT
#1
This is gonna be another one of them blog entries where I take the concept of Brood War and point out a completely improbable aspect of it.
Last time it was about the fighting styles of Bud Spencer/Terence Hill, Chuck Norris/Kwai Chang Caine and Bruce Lee/Jackie Chan resembling the style of playing with Terran, Protoss and Zerg respectively.
This time I came up with a different sort of comparison, classes in our society
Check it out:

Let's start with Protoss. Don't they have like the shiniest and beautifully designed buildings. If you had the choice to live in one of the buildings from this game I wouldn't be surprised if you chose the lavishness of a Templar Archives, Citadel of Adun or Arbiter Tribunal. I mean what else is there .. Ultralisk Cavern?! No thanks. A pool sounds nice but I prefer clear water over sticky, green slime. Maybe you'd compromise to stay at a Science Facility or Academy if it has a nice view by a lake or something, but you get my point.

Like there are different castes in India, Protoss has to be the top caste. Even the names of certain units suggest it like Archon (Lord) or Arbiter (Judge). The Templars of Europe were noblemen and administered great wealth in their time.
So to once again clarify what I am attributing to each race.. not necessarily how much money a class of people has but more the lifestyle, the je ne sais quoi that makes the lives of a certain class of people more luxurious. For this I assume that there is a different dynamic between the members of each of the three segments of the wealth spectrum. Polo clubs have a different bundle of social characteristics like say those who go bet on cock fights. Which doesn't necessarily mean that a cockfight bookie has less money than some uptown lad named Chad or Carlton, but one could assume so.

Next up the Cowboys of Space.. Terran. They like to get their hands dirty from time to time and don't need a fancy shield (economic safety net guaranteed by wealthy parents) or anything. They are the working class, operating heavy machinery and sweating their balls of to get things done for an unrewarding wage. Among their kind you can find the pseudo-intellectual anarchy-revolutionist type (Vulture) as well as the law-abiding father of 2,3 kids average Joe (Siege Tank). As well as sexy nurses and foxy Russian accent college graduand with ok jobs in marketing and consulting and all sorts of domains like that (it's not obvious that I mean Valkyrie pilots but whatever).

Last but not least those unfortunate enough to live in the jungle of poverty. Here I'll start the next level of my analogy by referring to the form in which each of the categories organize themselves and who rises to power in each of the 3 environments.
Picture a nasty place like the Ghettos of South Africa. It's a gang environment, each gang with a pyramidal structure. You rise in ranks by earning respect, you earn respect by doing bad things to your enemies. The tip of these pyramids is always a certain kind of person, a boss, an overlord who has a gang of minions or underlings. Once a boss he doesn't do much himself, he just manages his influence.
But let's not just talk about that particular kind of poverty. There are unfortunates everywhere when compared to their counterparts living with them in the same region. And when someone is unfortunate his possibilities are limited. And when possibilities are limited it's easy to get bored, frustrated even aggressive. And when there is a vent to channel that aggression like say .. a football firm, I mean the real Ultra hooligans. A force to be reckoned with especially if they get unsatisfied with the government.
What do all of these have in common? Raw instinct. The philosophy of doing what you can to survive and punish those who oppose you. One could amount these impulses of the ruling subconscious and call it collectively: The Overmind.

Back to the Protoss, the only race that you could pick and be the commander of that could theoretically be all races. Mind Control. Very rarely used in actual games but it's there .. and it fits in just dandy with the scheme. I'm talking mass media, and manipulative education and conditioning. There's one category of people who can pull this off.. and it's not the middle class dude nor the poor gangster / psycho / thug. It's the richest of the rich, the shadow government.. the dark archons. Clandestine lineages of power cultivated throughout the ages, invisible to the public, join forces / merge to form the ultimate testament to manipulation.
In ancient Greece, the first democracy in Athens, they had something called ὁ ὀστρακισμός or Scherbengericht in German. It was a summit of the town elders where they voted by writing a name of one of their own on a piece of clay. The man with the most votes was usually the wealthiest among them, he who acquired a dangerous amount of riches and therefore became a liability, as he could be potentially amassing an army and trying to seize control, becoming a tyrant. So he was banished like the dark templar were banished by the conclave. But were his riches stripped from him? No. Did he feel angry enough to hold a darkness in his soul, which could be passed on from generation to generation, a secret agenda? Likely.

So how could a war between these castes look like? Like any other war, by gathering resources and denying and prohibiting your opponent from doing the same. Each caste has its strengths and weaknesses. For one.. over 50% of the population could be considered poor. So if it was an open streetfight with no extra imbalances it's clear who would outnumber and overwhelm who. These folks have no problem whatsoever with stealing, dealing, buying lodes of old weapons, sabotage and conquering countries with the wombs of their women.
The middle class consisting of people who have the possibility and means to flourish in society as a birth right account for another 40%. Access to technology, material and bringing the innovations in science makes individuals of this caste slightly superior in a 1 to 1 comparison to the lower caste. They may be outnumbered but not outgunned so to speak.
The 10% at the top may consider themselves manly for riding the top of the pyramid and living on the fast lane like John F. Kennedy, Jr. and superior .. a superior race maybe even .. but they're actually hiding behind the misery and lack of opportunity of others. It's in their nature to steal from the poor masses and give to thyself and they have very sophisticated methods in doing so, it almost looks like magic. They can cause a hell of a Storm in the economy and just like that your country's money is gone.

So, which side would you choose?

TL;DR: read it or gfg


***
I don't know, lynch me!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 10 2011 21:10 GMT
#2
Only thing I agree with is the shiny buildings.
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
September 10 2011 21:13 GMT
#3
10 for effort. It was funny.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
September 10 2011 21:25 GMT
#4
You forgot that the rich man can simply hire invisible snipers and assassins to take out their enemies without them even noticing.

Also, why would anyone 'choose' the poor as shit side lol.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 10 2011 23:24 GMT
#5
Coming from very poor background, and always loved Zerg, yep. My loose interpretation is also that white race ~ terran, Asian/American Indian/Jewish ~ protoss, African/Middle East/Australian ~ zerg. Also as world directions: Terran-West, Protoss-East, Zerg-South. TvZ is Gulf Wars, TvP is Nam/Korea, ZvP is Gasa/Philippines
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
NewbieOne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland560 Posts
September 11 2011 00:52 GMT
#6
Never looked at it that way, though always wondered what made people choose non-human races in games, other than a coolness or geekness factor (e.g. elves) or personal preference for some type of units or strategies (e.g. fewer but stronger units, swarms, compromise, heavy or low reliance on casting etc.). In Warcraft 3 I had the impression humans were the underdogs. To an extent, I see some of it in Stacraft, as in you're cooler if you aren't terran but something different. I don't really care, I stick with terran, though protoss might suit my style and preference better in some regards.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
September 11 2011 05:08 GMT
#7
I'm a bit of an elitist - I was always one step ahead of my colleagues, a hair more cunning that the best of the rest. Naturally I have a ton of pride (in myself and my nationality). I'm a big believer of quality over quantity. I hate unions that protect the weak and the lazy.

+ Show Spoiler +
I play Protoss.
[TLMS] REBOOT
targ
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Malaysia445 Posts
September 11 2011 05:38 GMT
#8
In SC2 the poor class can pull off Mind Control too! Albeit temporarily...
http://billyfoong.blogspot.com/ my other opinions are here
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 19:34:29
September 11 2011 18:46 GMT
#9
On September 11 2011 08:24 figq wrote:
Coming from very poor background, and always loved Zerg, yep. My loose interpretation is also that white race ~ terran, Asian/American Indian/Jewish ~ protoss, African/Middle East/Australian ~ zerg. Also as world directions: Terran-West, Protoss-East, Zerg-South. TvZ is Gulf Wars, TvP is Nam/Korea, ZvP is Gasa/Philippines


From a geopolitical point of view I'd say the USA started out Protoss (decendants of Imperial Britain) vs Zerg in the Cowboys vs Indians days. They clearly won that encounter to the point where they almost wiped them out completely. Subsequently they gathered resources, expanded and took their tech to the level of mind control when they started absorbing drones from Africa, holding them as slaves. Then SCVs from Europe were mind-controlled by the promise of a new beginning, and formed the middle class economic engine which gave rise to all the mech weapons of war with which they dominate strategic positions throughout the world today.
The real Protoss are likely to be still in charge, keeping tabs on the mind-controlled population and securing their access to resources while keeping the competition handicapped.

So yeah, in the real world Protoss is imbalanced
Btw does anyone know about a pro game where mind control has been used successfully?
I don't know, lynch me!
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 21:41:05
September 11 2011 21:40 GMT
#10
On September 12 2011 03:46 FourFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 08:24 figq wrote:
Coming from very poor background, and always loved Zerg, yep. My loose interpretation is also that white race ~ terran, Asian/American Indian/Jewish ~ protoss, African/Middle East/Australian ~ zerg. Also as world directions: Terran-West, Protoss-East, Zerg-South. TvZ is Gulf Wars, TvP is Nam/Korea, ZvP is Gasa/Philippines


From a geopolitical point of view I'd say the USA started out Protoss (decendants of Imperial Britain) vs Zerg in the Cowboys vs Indians days. They clearly won that encounter to the point where they almost wiped them out completely. Subsequently they gathered resources, expanded and took their tech to the level of mind control when they started absorbing drones from Africa, holding them as slaves. Then SCVs from Europe were mind-controlled by the promise of a new beginning, and formed the middle class economic engine which gave rise to all the mech weapons of war with which they dominate strategic positions throughout the world today.
The real Protoss are likely to be still in charge, keeping tabs on the mind-controlled population and securing their access to resources while keeping the competition handicapped.

So yeah, in the real world Protoss is imbalanced
Btw does anyone know about a pro game where mind control has been used successfully?


Stork vs GGplay on Andromeda.

Would have been a draw if not for those protoss defilers!
I drop suckas like Plinko
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
September 12 2011 03:29 GMT
#11
Not bad but I was thinking about a build designed with mind control in mind (hihii) not just as a last resort. But 10x anyway, interesting game.
I don't know, lynch me!
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 12 2011 04:18 GMT
#12
When the lower class move into a middle class CC, it becomes trashy, and produces nothing but drugged-up, suicidal maniacs. It's quite sad, really...
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
September 12 2011 09:45 GMT
#13
Defilers have it tough in our modern time. They still rape but sadly for them, with the almost risk-free abortions, their offspring get flushed down the toilet with minimal damage to the rich gal's vagina. Rape just ain't what it used to be.
As for Scourge.. Kamikaze is coming back nowadays.

I don't know, lynch me!
The Black
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States222 Posts
October 06 2011 18:24 GMT
#14
Fuck! Why did I see this only now! I'm a fan!
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 06 2011 20:20 GMT
#15
You could just say ostracism rather than ὀστρακισμός. It does translate.

That did get me thinking of the Greeks, though. Theres a fascinating element in that the Tyrants of Ancient Greece arose out of the support of the impoverished. Which is another parallel for the Overmind, a classical greek tyrant who rules by the faithful support of the mob. The Populares of Rome ended up the same (Caesar, Antony, Octavian). Whereas the previous Oligarchies were seen to represent the rich (a protoss parallel).
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 06 2011 21:15 GMT
#16
On September 11 2011 14:08 OpticalShot wrote:
I'm a bit of an elitist - I was always one step ahead of my colleagues, a hair more cunning that the best of the rest. Naturally I have a ton of pride (in myself and my nationality). I'm a big believer of quality over quantity. I hate unions that protect the weak and the lazy.

+ Show Spoiler +
I play Protoss.


Same... but I play Zerg
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 213
Ketroc 47
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3087
Rain 1562
IntoTheRainbow 12
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm121
Counter-Strike
summit1g10751
minikerr29
Other Games
tarik_tv4652
Liquid`RaSZi1455
Maynarde37
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 65
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 32
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21954
Other Games
• imaqtpie1705
Upcoming Events
OSC
9m
CranKy Ducklings2
GSL
11h 9m
Monday Night Weeklies
16h 9m
Replay Cast
1d
WardiTV Weekly
1d 11h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.