EPTThe Morality of Ad-Blocking - Page 2
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
Unfortunately the business model for websites is what it is so for now I leave them on. But in an ideal world we'd have subscription or donation based models where you'd have to opt in to receive ads. Annoying ads are a whole new level. I just try to steer clear of sites that have them. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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TheButtonmen
Canada1403 Posts
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poundcakes
Norway239 Posts
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
Then after a short while Pop-up Ads started to appear, and these were annoying to most people. Especially the ones that pretended to look like a normal window but in fact were a picture so that when you clicked the close X button it just opened another Ad. Ever since then internet Ads have been coming up with different strategies to get in your face, like launching if you happen to roll over them, or you being unable to watch a video without watching a 2 minute advert every time. This is why people started to use Ad blockers. If it all went back to simple banners and wasn't too intrusive then people wouldn't bother with blockers. Now sites like TL suffer because of this historical misuse of the internet, and that is a shame. | ||
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Geovu
Estonia1344 Posts
On September 04 2011 03:18 deathly rat wrote: I think you have to look at this from a semi-historical basis. When I first started using the internet was when I went to University and back then the only advertising was banners on major websites and search engines like Yahoo etc. Then after a short while Pop-up Ads started to appear, and these were annoying to most people. Especially the ones that pretended to look like a normal window but in fact were a picture so that when you clicked the close X button it just opened another Ad. Ever since then internet Ads have been coming up with different strategies to get in your face, like launching if you happen to roll over them, or you being unable to watch a video without watching a 2 minute advert every time. This is why people started to use Ad blockers. If it all went back to simple banners and wasn't too intrusive then people wouldn't bother with blockers. Now sites like TL suffer because of this historical misuse of the internet, and that is a shame. I agree with this for the most part. The biggest problem I have with ads is movement and sound. For movement: If you have seen any of the Netflix ad banners you will know what I am talking about. The flash multiple times and have large amounts of movement and is super distracting. Banner Ads built into a video player literally just get in the way of actual content and block out the screen you are supposed to be looking at as opposed to regular banners where it doesn't (always) get in the way of the actual website interface. Sound is the biggest problem by far though. It's just way too fucking loud!!!. When I use the internet I usually put any audio players to 50-80% so that if I come across a quiet video I can use the built in volume control on the player to turn it up instead of turning up the volume on my actual speakers, and then get freaked out when I do something else and forget to turn it back down. Since every ad in existence wants to smash the hell out of the waveform in order to fit as much noise available into as small of a space, its just unfair. It's like watching sleeping tigers on the discovery channel on TV and suddenly BAM that damn fucking ad for those fruit cups wakes up my cats and they run from the room (Exaggeration). Except on the internet it's 5 times worse in the volume difference. And also, if I mute the player and the ad pops up it should be muted as well, I have more than 1 tab up thank you very much -_- I have ADD as well so ads are even worse for me goddammit :S Makes me want to falcon punch my monitor sometimes. Often, actually. P.S. Anyone know of a reliable way to block video ads on Opera? There are extensions specifically designed for youtube that work well but other ad blockers tend to only block video ads sometimes and sometimes even block out the player itself. IMO it's literally the only weak link in Opera. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Ads are one of several reasons why I don't watch TV (ok, I don't even own a TV atm) or listen to the radio, too. Morality is... if you get in my face I'm gonna shut you down. That is all. | ||
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duk3
United States807 Posts
Streams are tricky, as I want to support the streamer, but I also don't want to watch their annoying ads. Usually depending on how much I like their stream I disable the blocker. Also, I have an advertisement for Google AdWords at the top of this page | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
In reality an ad is 30 seconds of time every 5-30 minute game, its not a huge deal to watch it since it really doesn't cost you anything if you think about it | ||
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Suisen
256 Posts
Ads are one of the strangest aspect of our society. How can you be a free society when every 15 minutes on tv some super powerful corporation tries to brainwash you into buying their products? It is really a rotten part of our society. Internet ads suddenly appear on your computer unasked and unwanted. Preventing them from violating your computer experience is theft? Ads are the most North Korea-like segment of our society. Especially tv ads. Those are the most sinister of them all. Never seen a tv ad the last few years that offer 1 tiny bit of useful information about their product to potential customers. Instead, they are extremely disrespectful by appealing to emotion and acting like the customers are idiots. And apparently they are because advertisements are extremely advanced and well researched in their methods. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
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_awake_
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
On September 04 2011 08:22 Suisen wrote: Ads are propaganda that try to exploit our in build irrationality. Ads try to abuse the flaws in human nature. They are immoral in themselves. Ads are one of the strangest aspect of our society. How can you be a free society when every 15 minutes on tv some super powerful corporation tries to brainwash you into buying their products? It is really a rotten part of our society. Internet ads suddenly appear on your computer unasked and unwanted. Preventing them from violating your computer experience is theft? Ads are the most North Korea-like segment of our society. Especially tv ads. Those are the most sinister of them all. Never seen a tv ad the last few years that offer 1 tiny bit of useful information about their product to potential customers. Instead, they are extremely disrespectful by appealing to emotion and acting like the customers are idiots. And apparently they are because advertisements are extremely advanced and well researched in their methods. Hell yeah man, keep that shit out of my brain. Can't even drive to work without seeing god damn ads all over the place, pretty soon we won't be able to shit without seeing them all over the place. So I welcome any chance to keep them out of my head. | ||
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Geovu
Estonia1344 Posts
On September 04 2011 08:22 Suisen wrote: Ads are propaganda that try to exploit our in build irrationality. Ads try to abuse the flaws in human nature. They are immoral in themselves. Ads are one of the strangest aspect of our society. How can you be a free society when every 15 minutes on tv some super powerful corporation tries to brainwash you into buying their products? It is really a rotten part of our society. Internet ads suddenly appear on your computer unasked and unwanted. Preventing them from violating your computer experience is theft? Ads are the most North Korea-like segment of our society. Especially tv ads. Those are the most sinister of them all. Never seen a tv ad the last few years that offer 1 tiny bit of useful information about their product to potential customers. Instead, they are extremely disrespectful by appealing to emotion and acting like the customers are idiots. And apparently they are because advertisements are extremely advanced and well researched in their methods. To be fair, advertisements in theory are not bad at all. They are simply a way to get your product known by anyone relevant. I'm sure that more than once in your life you stumbled across an advertisement for something really cool that you didn't realize you needed, but you did (Like say you have a super shitty vacuum cleaner, but you don't realize that until you see an advertisement) The problem is that in our current society ads try to be as loud and obnoxious as possible No ones gonna buy your box of cereal if there's not enough lasor beams, lights and ninjas on the front. Razer in particular seems to capitalize on this fact quite a bit o: On September 04 2011 08:29 Blazinghand wrote: I used to have my adblocker on, but then the TL Mascot's adorable eyes were staring at me and I couldn't keep it turned on for this website. How could I possibly deny a personal appeal from the TL Horse Mascot? Even with all ad blockers off and everything I always get the TL Mascot, lol. Makes me sad so I want to block that too :S | ||
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SpoR
United States1542 Posts
Ads are basically a calculated risk, they know they can possibly spend lots of money and make nothing at all from it (its very unlikely but they do know its a rare possibility). Ads are like gambling, in fact even phil hellmuth has a chapter in his book about advertising which basically advocates showing a bunch of shit to opponents and changing gears to capitalize on what their image of you is. Anyways, I wouldn't call it stealing. If everyone blocks ads then the system obviously doesn't work and it will fail. There will be some other way for them to make the ad revenue instead. Don't blame yourself, blame the system. That's usually a good philosophy anyways haha | ||
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McCafe
Canada11 Posts
It happened to me once on an older computer. I don't block some other ads such as good ones on TeamLiquid! | ||
Falling
Canada11363 Posts
But I think the final straw was watching the same 17-30 second ad whenever you have hit refresh on a video screen or try to move to a new part in the video, or the auto launcher started some new video, when you wanted to watch a different on. So you sit through the first ad, until you can click on the video you really want and possibly watch another ad when you switch and watch another ad before you start the one you wanted in the first place and maybe if you were having troubles buffering, you want to skip ahead 10 minutes, why then there's another ad to watch! So I said screw it, I'll get adblock. And I'll only unblock it for things like Team Liquid and Shamus Young and other websites with non-intrusive ads that I really support. I was actually surprised to learn youtube got ads as I was happily oblivious to that fact with adblock. | ||
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