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CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
August 23 2011 10:46 GMT
#1
ATT still hasn't fixed my internet, and those 2-3 dropped matches probably aren't helping the reliability score of my MMR, but I've made it to 1st in my Silver League division, I'm playing mostly golds and beating them pretty reliably, and I even faced and beat my first plat tonight. He left without GGing - I pmed him "gg " after the match, and he told me to fuck off. I guess I can see how that would be passive-aggressive, but I was seriously just trying to be nice.

I'm kicking ass and happy about it though! As I've mentioned in previous blog posts I'm basically trying to do this with no cheese at all. I've rushed exactly once - it was a 10 pool, and it did economic damage that let me steamroll the other guy with a push at about 10 minutes. And frankly, I only did that because I thought I'd screwed up my build.

The rest of the time, I've played standard, econ-focused, and as safely as I can. I win most of my games at around the 18 minute mark (not counting one asshole terran who building floated and rebased multiple times until I got fed up and massed mutas) and usually lose a bit earlier than that - I've suicided armies when I shouldn't, straight-up lost to early rushes, and so on, but I've only been out-macroed once, and it was a scouting fail - I made a bunch of units while my opponent was flooding drones, because I thought he was doing a timing attack.

Speaking of which, scouting is the thing I need the most work on. I can check for expansions just fine (if I can take the credit for that - overlords do all the work), I can macro like a beast (given I've been playing for less than a week), and while I don't exactly micro well (or at all), I have a good sense for concaves and when I can/can't win a fight and should/shouldn't engage. I can even adapt my builds and manage crises reasonably well. But the one damn thing I can never remember to do is scout in the midgame, and it loses me games I should win. I also need to work on things like spreading creep (I need to work a LOT on spreading creep), but scouting better would have saved me just about every loss I've had in the past 20-30 games.

All in all I'm really happy with my play and development, and I'm having a lot of fun! My girlfriend has even commented on how happy I seem to be when I'm playing or after I have, and on how well I shrug off losses - I think this game is good for me.

Now for a brief explanation of what I'm doing strategy-wise. I don't really have builds set in stone yet - I figure that level of refinement can wait until I'm remembering to fucking scout and spread creep - but I more or less always open 14 hatch vT and 11pool vP and vZ. Not an aggressive 11pool, mind you - an econ-focused, I-want-my-damn-queen-and-some-cheese-protection-please 11pool. Then more or less regardless of matchup, I focus on securing expansions and massing up a strong ground army and upgrading it, before doing a timing push at +2 attack. vZ and vP this ends up being mainly roaches for a while, with hydras or infestors added once I have some extra gas and a stable footing. vT I tend to start with speedling/baneling and add roaches from there - I'd rather worry about micro vs siege tanks, which are slow or stationary, than micro versus stimmed marines with mutalisks! The nice thing is that the logical counter - mass marauders - gets completely destroyed by mass ling, which gives me tons of extra gas, which lets me get hive tech and tons of infestors out....good times.

I have to admit, I never really use broodlords or ultralisks, and I don't really see myself using either any time soon. They seem outclassed by cheaper units (zergling/roach and baneling respectively) that are available earlier and save gas for infestors - which I'm in love with. Is this a mistake on my part? It seems a waste going hive when I'm just going to use it for 3/3 and adrenal glands, but neither unit really seems necessary to me...

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fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
August 23 2011 11:00 GMT
#2
He left without GGing - I pmed him "gg " after the match, and he told me to fuck off. I guess I can see how that would be passive-aggressive, but I was seriously just trying to be nice.


for the majority of people, that will just come across as rubbing it in, the polar opposite approach to 'being nice'
Especially if he had already managed to check that you are indeed Silver


but congrats nonetheless! : )
Liquipedia@jkursk
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 11:16:29
August 23 2011 11:11 GMT
#3
On August 23 2011 20:00 fusefuse wrote:
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He left without GGing - I pmed him "gg " after the match, and he told me to fuck off. I guess I can see how that would be passive-aggressive, but I was seriously just trying to be nice.


for the majority of people, that will just come across as rubbing it in, the polar opposite approach to 'being nice'
Especially if he had already managed to check that you are indeed Silver


but congrats nonetheless! : )

yeah.... don't do that


Also, Broodlord/Infestor against a Terran that doesn't have enough Vikings feels solo good the first time you use it. It's the only time I ever feel OP as Zerg. Granted you need to use that army composition differently than compared to other Zerg armies, so there are a lot of different control priorities you need to learn, but it feels so good to get the Zerg deathball against an opponent that doesn't have the anti-air to deal with it.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
August 23 2011 11:28 GMT
#4
Oh.

Oops.
redoxx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States333 Posts
August 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#5
Don't worry too much about the post game gg though, it's the kind of etiquette thing that isn't really apparent to new players. Congrats on your progress! I love that feeling when the game finally makes sense and you can beat anything they throw at you. Unfortunately, that feeling has a way of leaving once you start moving up in leagues, but dont fret, it does come back from time to time.
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