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Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
August 03 2011 22:01 GMT
#1
I have since 2004 enjoyed teamplay alot. I played a ton of hunters mostly 3:3, both serious (#Brood was ladder) and messing about for fun. In brood war it was easy, there was only one map and it was pretty much figured out even in vanilla.

When I switched to sc2 there were a lot of meh maps, shared mains and ramps but atleast it was faster to find games. I soon noticed the map Quicksand that was kinda similar to hunters. You got your own choke and no ramp. It soon got removed from the map pool. Iirc I read something about to much rush play. Well it's 3:3, you cant do 1:1 builds and think it'll work.
I cursed a bit over the loss of the map with the most potential of becoming a new hunters but started to notice another map named Monsoon. It had ramps and a tight middle but for some reason it was fun. Still cant put my finger on in really. My win % on it was huge however, I think it was something like march last time I lost a game on it. Even playing with people who could not follow a build order if their life depended on it and surfed at 20apm. But now when I look at the map pool for the new season Monsoon is removed aswell.

Basically I just wanted to get this of my chest. This shit is way more serious and affecting my mental health more than girl problems.

And while we are at it. Is there a remake of hunters that feels like the correct size and not to small like the ones I've found so far?

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Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 22:11:44
August 03 2011 22:10 GMT
#2
Quicksand was the worst map blizzard has ever made. All 3v3 without shared bases are unplayable jokes, with unholdable all ins. New 3v3 maps are kinda good.

-master league in 3v3.


Gave 1 star out of 5 for wrong opinions -.-
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
August 03 2011 22:13 GMT
#3
...wrong opinions? what
NoobStyles
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Australia257 Posts
August 03 2011 22:14 GMT
#4
On August 04 2011 07:10 Sea_Food wrote:
Quicksand was the worst map blizzard has ever made. All 3v3 without shared bases are unplayable jokes, with unholdable all ins. New 3v3 maps are kinda good.

-master league in 3v3.


Gave 1 star out of 5 for wrong opinions -.-



no you can win on non shared base maps, without rushing or doing some "unholdable all in".

-master league in 3v3.
Ardhimas
Profile Joined March 2011
Indonesia75 Posts
August 03 2011 22:22 GMT
#5
On August 04 2011 07:10 Sea_Food wrote:
Quicksand was the worst map blizzard has ever made. All 3v3 without shared bases are unplayable jokes, with unholdable all ins. New 3v3 maps are kinda good.

-master league in 3v3.


Gave 1 star out of 5 for wrong opinions -.-

The issue isn't shared bases, the issue is people not working together.

Your teammate getting allined? Assemble all your forces to fight it off. You don't attempt to counter 1 guy with your little army while your teammate gets destroyed, and your base is next in line.
"Damn, you are like a man-bear-girl with those hands." - Qzy
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 03 2011 22:30 GMT
#6
On August 04 2011 07:01 Eatme wrote:
And while we are at it. Is there a remake of hunters that feels like the correct size and not to small like the ones I've found so far?

Barrin made one!

"True Big Game Hunters"

Map thread here!
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 03 2011 22:48 GMT
#7
There were other problems with quicksand already, such as imbalanced backdoors. At least most of the BGH imbalances cancelled each other out...
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Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
August 03 2011 23:50 GMT
#8
On August 04 2011 07:30 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 07:01 Eatme wrote:
And while we are at it. Is there a remake of hunters that feels like the correct size and not to small like the ones I've found so far?

Barrin made one!

"True Big Game Hunters"

Map thread here!

Yes but that one is BGH I wanted low. Knew about that one earlier aswell. Maybe I should PM him about a low version.

Oh and I'm master 3:3 aswell. 3-0 so far so not saying much I guess.
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Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
August 04 2011 00:01 GMT
#9
Quicksand was not like Hunters. It was like a 6 player blood bath.

The first thing I wanted to do when I got SC2 was play some 3v3 hunters, but I couldn't find a suitable map, and their lobby system for custom games is so stupid that I would have to sit there forever to actually find people to play.

Now that there's chat, you might want to go to teamliquid chat or something and ask if anyone is up for 3v3 hunters. I'm actually not sure if there's a map, but you should search for it ingame.
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
August 04 2011 03:28 GMT
#10
I have not seen a decent one except for two BGH versions found in the thread iGrok linked to. And yeah it would probably be really hard to get a game going but a decent friendslist and a channel might do the trick. Would be nice to have something atleast similar on ladder.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
August 04 2011 03:49 GMT
#11
On August 04 2011 07:10 Sea_Food wrote:
Quicksand was the worst map blizzard has ever made. All 3v3 without shared bases are unplayable jokes, with unholdable all ins. New 3v3 maps are kinda good.

-master league in 3v3.


Gave 1 star out of 5 for wrong opinions -.-


Masters in every league... You are wrong. lol

OP blizz has a tendency to remove maps you would normally think are good and add maps you generally might dislike more... there are still quite a few interesting 3v3 maps in the pool though don't give up hope!
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Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
August 04 2011 15:09 GMT
#12
I really wonder how blizzard select the maps they remove. I assume they go on the number of vetos but that may be way to logical.
I dislike shared bases since it's really hard to counter and if you counter you dont have stuff to defend with, plus they are in your base too since it's shared.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
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