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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 02 2011 11:45 GMT
#181
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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 02 2011 13:45 GMT
#182
Wait, people are seriously calling ZergBong (NesTea) a Bonjwa? Good grief.
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darcevader88
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada648 Posts
August 02 2011 14:12 GMT
#183
While I feel the term is completely, insanely, unbelievably, ridiculously overused nowaday and it should definitely start earning people warnings or something for tossing it out there every goddamn 5 seconds...

I also feel like there are huge portions of the BW population that act like EVER using that word in reference to sc2 is an actrocity even if it's like a future dated statement which i find offensive as a former BW fanatic to a newly sc2 fanatic.

I feel like there are both extremes and not nearly enough people in the middle who are being reasonable about it, soo many fair weather sc2 fans are screaming the word from the rooftops every single time someone wins a few tournaments and then you have BW guys coming into the threads just going crazy bashing the hell out of them for using it. Both sides need to chill the hell out in their respective nonsensical areas.


If Nestea wins like 6 GSLs in a year, MAYBE MAYBE if he has shown just overwhelming dominance we can use it, til then. STFU both sides.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 02 2011 14:41 GMT
#184
On August 02 2011 16:10 Linkirvana wrote:

I disagree. People use exaggerated compliments all the time. Yet Bonjwa seems to be the one where everybody gets anal about. I disagree with your analogy as well, this whole thing is about complimenting someone else, not yourself. If you were to call someone the greatest thinker of all time over say, not walking into that pile of shit, I would not go and point out why I think that person is not the greatest thinker of all time. Cause I'd be going anal about it wouldn't you agree?


The thing is, it's not just an exaggerated compliment. It's a large number of people trying to legitimately apply a title. I don't care that much about people using it in jest, but the problem is that people are stone cold seriously trying to say these guys are Bonjwas. If I were, in absolutely serious fashion saying I'm the greatest thinker of all time, you'd obviously correct me.

And it's not just hostility to SC2. In the BW forums, we get in completely ridiculous, flamewar worthy argument over whether or not Flash and Jaedong are Bonjwas, and we used to do it about Bisu. It's taken very seriously for our community.

Again I must concede, fair enough. However I still feel that saying something like "amagad Losira bonjwa" should be perfectly fine.


Yeah, no one should care about that unless it happens en masse and picks up steam, because that causes discussion which enforces a serious tone.

Your analogy proves my point. Disagreeing with that is being an asshole. Everybody knows that it's an exaggerated compliment.

Pointing it out seems weird, very weird. Asking for these people to get as much as a ban over such a statement is even more weird.

If 1 of your friends called your other friend (Who happends to be in silver league) a bonjwa, for succesfully doing something silly as a 4gate rush, would you be that guy who sits there and explains exactly the standards for a bonjwa?

Clearly I am exaggerating in my arguments, because I understand it becomes less about being an asshole as people are more serious about their statement regarding "Person X is a bonjwa" and more about just being right. However considering the immense room for disagreement when it comes to the term Bonjwa I feel that triggering a barrage of anecdotal evidence by for example pointing out that "person X is not really a Bonjwa, only SaviOr was!" still makes you look like a bit of a douchebag because quite frankly, that person is not going to care.


Again, you miss my point. People are annoyed at these things being said in a serious context, and people actually arguing that Nestea is up to Bonjwa standards. If I were, in an absolutely serious manner, saying a 5 year old was truly Messi's rival as a soccer player, then I'd be daft and you'd be right to call me wrong. This is different from using it in jest or using it as encouragement. In a legitimate discussion, the SC2 forums need to cool down on proclaiming dudes bonjwa in a serious way, atleast for another year or so (and that's only if SOMEONE who's been dominant previously in this first year of SC2 completely dominates the next year. Finnicky requirements). There's still debate on whether Flash is a bonjwa or not after his past year and a half, no way anyone who hasn't won every single GSL could be bonjwa in sc2 yet.
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Cwall
Profile Joined September 2010
United States64 Posts
August 02 2011 22:49 GMT
#185
it's obvious that these broodwar fanboys don't pay attention to the sc2 competitive scene at all

nestea is obviously the bonjwa of koreans atm and the bonjwa of non-koreans would probably have to be naniwa

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godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
August 02 2011 22:52 GMT
#186
On August 03 2011 07:49 Cwall wrote:
it's obvious that these broodwar fanboys don't pay attention to the sc2 competitive scene at all

nestea is obviously the bonjwa of koreans atm and the bonjwa of non-koreans would probably have to be naniwa

Oh god I can't stop laughing at the pure ignorance of this post, and this is coming form someone who started following this from SC2, though i have started to watch PL couple of month ago.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
August 02 2011 22:55 GMT
#187
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 23:00:57
August 02 2011 23:00 GMT
#188
God

Have you seen THAT thread?

I won't link it, but it is in the closed threads section.
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godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
August 02 2011 23:00 GMT
#189
Finally that thread got closed. I dont have the urge to post 1 million posts on all the other sc2 thread in an attempt to send the b_____ thread to oblivion!
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
August 02 2011 23:01 GMT
#190
R1CH, we need your almighty power!
Change the TL script, so that the b word becomes bon jovi.
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AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
August 02 2011 23:04 GMT
#191
Please stop comparing GSL to OSL and MSL, it's not even remotely comparable.
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ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 23:12:34
August 02 2011 23:06 GMT
#192
On August 03 2011 07:49 Cwall wrote:
it's obvious that these broodwar fanboys don't pay attention to the sc2 competitive scene at all

nestea is obviously the bonjwa of koreans atm and the bonjwa of non-koreans would probably have to be naniwa


OK I'm just gonna leave these 2 images from the God of the Battlefield article here...
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Think twice about using that word next time.

EDIT: also credit to hawaiianpig for being a baller and making those sweet graphics.
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Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
August 02 2011 23:16 GMT
#193
On August 03 2011 07:49 Cwall wrote:
it's obvious that these broodwar fanboys don't pay attention to the sc2 competitive scene at all

nestea is obviously the bonjwa of koreans atm and the bonjwa of non-koreans would probably have to be naniwa


You need to edit your post right now before someone see's it. You have no idea what that word even means do you? Literally, you aren't just using it at an inappropriate time, your using it incorrectly.

I'd prefer this term remain one that is used referring to BW. As a sc2 community, I think we need to come up with our own term if and when we get a player somewhere down the road that shows the same dominance over a very entended period of time then we can start coming up with our own term to use and leave that B word sacred to BW.
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
tehplank
Profile Joined October 2010
977 Posts
August 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#194
On August 03 2011 07:49 Cwall wrote:
it's obvious that these broodwar fanboys don't pay attention to the sc2 competitive scene at all

nestea is obviously the bonjwa of koreans atm and the bonjwa of non-koreans would probably have to be naniwa


It's obvious that you don't pay attention to the skill level of the BW bonjwas. Nestea might be the best SC2 player, but bonjwa? Hell no.

Please.. stop putting Nestea at the same level as Savior. I'm not even a huge BW fan by the way. Thanks for ruining the image of SC2 fans even more.
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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
August 02 2011 23:31 GMT
#195
These are video games, not a religion. Applying blasphemy to a video game is really pretty absurd. Nothing is holy on the internet.

Let's add it to the TL list of commandments:

"Thou shall not speak the B-Word in vain."

With a disclaimer reading something along the lines of: "You who are new, you do not and you shall not ever appreciate nor understand the epic proportions of epicness that was the history of SC1. It contains holy shrines that can not be trespassed upon by lowly uninitiated mortals. You will treat it with reverence and respect and will not challenge the elite Brood War priests, and you shall not attempt to use their sacred words lightly."

lol...
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
August 02 2011 23:35 GMT
#196
As far as dominance in SC2 goes, I don't think there's ANYONE who just goes so far above and beyond everyone else that he/she is always considered the favorite to win every game. In my opinion, anything to the contrary is just hype at this point, but that could change sometime in the future.
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Nethermind
Profile Joined April 2011
New Zealand445 Posts
August 03 2011 00:12 GMT
#197
I'd be more inclined to label Nestea as a Maestro than the B word. It's an endearing term, respectful, and seems to fit with his creative and solid style that has resulted in dominance of his opponents recently.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 03 2011 12:55 GMT
#198
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Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 03 2011 18:44 GMT
#199
On August 03 2011 07:49 Cwall wrote:
it's obvious that these broodwar fanboys don't pay attention to the sc2 competitive scene at all

nestea is obviously the bonjwa of koreans atm and the bonjwa of non-koreans would probably have to be naniwa

quit making yourself (and other sc2 fans with low posts) look bad.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 03 2011 18:52 GMT
#200
On August 03 2011 07:49 Cwall wrote:
it's obvious that these broodwar fanboys don't pay attention to the sc2 competitive scene at all

nestea is obviously the bonjwa of koreans atm and the bonjwa of non-koreans would probably have to be naniwa

Hey Mr.18-posts, have you read the TL Ten Commands? Maybe you should, eh?

Maybe you also should do some research on the origins of that term before throwing it everywhere. For your information, I do keep track of GSL / GSTL as well as major foreign tournaments (recently MLG Anaheim).
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