• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:42
CEST 12:42
KST 19:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL46Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates8GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th12Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Magnus Carlsen and Fabi review Clem's chess game. Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th
Tourneys
Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? [BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I made an ASL quiz
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 1
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread What do you want from future RTS games? Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Cognitive styles x game perf…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 24439 users

Brood War and Peace

Blogs > UltimateHurl
Post a Reply
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
July 20 2011 12:24 GMT
#1
"I've never read War and Peace, so I'd look pretty foolish trying to quote it to be classy in a blog post" - UltimateHurl

So I briefly mentioned in a previous post that I played Brood War. I played Protoss, because as a youth 'Oh wow they have laser blades!' made them the best, regardless of 'facts' about strengths and weaknesses. Generally I've stuck with single-player games since my NES days, because I loved a good story (Legacy of Kain series anyone?), but I got into Starcraft: Brood War in an odd way.

[image loading]
You have to admit, laser blades are pretty badass

Multiplayer PC games were always the realm of a specific sort of social gathering, the LAN party. A quick aside at this point: I live in Ireland, and some misconceptions exist about the Irish. We occasionally get told our English is very good for a second language and some assume we all live in farms, both incorrect assumptions, but if anyone ever imagined an Irish LAN party looked like the following they'd be right;

[image loading]
Well, we usually have more sickly-people, and sweets.

Far from the likes of the WCG I was raised! I grew up on the mean streets of Dublin, macroing poorly before I even knew what it was called, ignoring drunks getting sick in the Liffey at midnight as my Dragoons sort of wandered about like they didn't understand my commands.Playing against an elite group of 4 or 5 friends, and by 'elite' I of course mean 'random', we had epic games that started with "No rushing for the first ten minutes guys, I'm serious!" and ended with "That was a good 3 hour long game", or occasionally "Hey, you rushed!". Here I'll relate a few choice stories of my heyday, far from the skill-level of the iCCup ladder.

We played four-player games frequently, and I usually loved this, as short rush distances meant I could get some good units out fast enough to fight. In this particular game we each held a corner and no-one showed any aggression for the first ten minutes. Then 20. Then 30. by this time I had done what every seriously bad Starcraft player does when faced with absolutely no threat: created a fully blossomed tech-tree. I had at least 2 of ever unit, so no matter my fate the glorious Protoss race would continue!

Unfortunately everyone else did the same for their forces, and the next 3 hours, yes three hours, was spent throwing balls of units at each other to see what stuck, broken by tense cold-wars as we expanded to other bases to replenish. In one such epic clash I discovered my zealots worked well against lings, and made slightly more of those. This resulted in a swift victory over one of my opponents, as another (a Terran) defeated the fourth on our map. After 3 and a half hours I was ready to end it, so , with a newly built fleet of Carriers I blotted out the sun as I attacked his main....which was defended with missile turrets and marines. That's the reason I still (even in SC2) don't bother with Carriers, bad memories

[image loading]
But they still look amazing

The second tale shows how little I knew of the mechanics of the game at these early stages. Another 4v4, this time with SirJolt, who was only marginally more experienced than me at the time. As the game starts SirJolt, being a good friend and what-not sends an 'allies' request, which I dutifully accepted. We then built our armies, he made 10 control groups worth of zerglings and hydras, and I made... photon cannons, lots, all around my base. As mine was the base closest to the enemy I felt we needed good solid defense, and didn't think a thing of him marching all his units into my base. Then they started attacking my units. I tried to fight back in vain, it transpires that the peace we brokered was broken on one side, and in my panic I had not backed out of it, so all my units were blissfully staring at their allies, destroying my base

[image loading]
Still, photon cannons are pretty sweet, right? Protoss have style if nothing else.

I've always enjoyed Starcraft, but rarely got the chance to play it, as a result I actually forgot the quality of the graphics, and though the leap from BW to SC2 was a lot less than it was.

[image loading]
Practically the same, right guys?

****
stilez
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico130 Posts
July 20 2011 12:41 GMT
#2
lazers are the reason i picked toss too :3
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
July 20 2011 12:42 GMT
#3
Those that say BW graphics are ugly are rather !@#$%^&*() people. It is timeless, like those classic cars or antique stuff or like classical music. Both sc and sc2 graphics are pretty.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 20 2011 12:45 GMT
#4
On July 20 2011 21:42 Black[CAT] wrote:
Those that say BW graphics are ugly are rather !@#$%^&*() people. It is timeless, like those classic cars or antique stuff or like classical music. Both sc and sc2 graphics are pretty.


Yes, like Deus Ex, bad graphics, good game. I don't mind BW, I just find it insanely hard to play now (BW is popular at school right now). I'm so spoiled, thank you sc2
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 20 2011 12:45 GMT
#5
LOL he backstabbed you hahahaha
Laser blades are indeed awesome. I remember reading somewhere they were powered by their rage/anger or something (might be wrong) and then i remember that short clip where that zealot's psi blade runs out of powers
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
July 20 2011 12:59 GMT
#6
On July 20 2011 21:42 Black[CAT] wrote:
Those that say BW graphics are ugly are rather !@#$%^&*() people. It is timeless, like those classic cars or antique stuff or like classical music. Both sc and sc2 graphics are pretty.


I'd never call them ugly, actually the opposite, my imagination filled in the missing details. I remember Carriers looking as detailed as they look in SC2 in BW. Was shocked to see the screenshot comparisons, such an upgrade, but love the older style too
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
July 20 2011 12:59 GMT
#7
On July 20 2011 21:45 Hyde wrote:
LOL he backstabbed you hahahaha
Laser blades are indeed awesome. I remember reading somewhere they were powered by their rage/anger or something (might be wrong) and then i remember that short clip where that zealot's psi blade runs out of powers


Hahaha, I started BW as Protoss coz i liked Dragoons O.O!
Their blades are powered by their psi. That clip was Fenix in the BW campaign.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
July 20 2011 13:05 GMT
#8
On July 20 2011 21:45 DisaFear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 21:42 Black[CAT] wrote:
Those that say BW graphics are ugly are rather !@#$%^&*() people. It is timeless, like those classic cars or antique stuff or like classical music. Both sc and sc2 graphics are pretty.


Yes, like Deus Ex, bad graphics, good game. I don't mind BW, I just find it insanely hard to play now (BW is popular at school right now). I'm so spoiled, thank you sc2


I've the same difficulty, just been spoiled by SC2's extra bits. No automining, or displaying which control-groups are assigned threw me completely, loved watching Day[9]'s Funday Monday on SC2 BW though
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2131 Posts
July 20 2011 13:19 GMT
#9
back in 1996 or whatever my partner and i thought our dual 2gate rush was invincible. Thats all we did for god knows how long lol.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
July 20 2011 14:10 GMT
#10
BW and WC2 graphics made a call to our imagination. Everyone saw portraits or units in different ways and that's what made these graphics so great. It brings nostalgia when you remember how wrong you were looking at certain units when you were young and I think this is a big reason why I'll always love BW <3.
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
July 20 2011 16:39 GMT
#11
On July 20 2011 22:19 gameguard wrote:
back in 1996 or whatever my partner and i thought our dual 2gate rush was invincible. Thats all we did for god knows how long lol.

I actually regret not having replays from the old days, if only to be able to see if I ever, even accidentally, looked like I knew what a build order might be
Atom Cannister
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Germany380 Posts
July 20 2011 21:00 GMT
#12
We'll go retro soon man. SC2 soon by the way, sorry for my wretched unavailability of late.
...
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
July 20 2011 21:30 GMT
#13
On July 21 2011 06:00 Atom Cannister wrote:
We'll go retro soon man. SC2 soon by the way, sorry for my wretched unavailability of late.


Oh, I'm semi-prepared, I got the Starcraft battlechest when I was in the US, with a guide! I'll be a pro in no time! No worries on the unavailability, just means you haven't noticed how busy I've been
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4002 Posts
July 21 2011 01:39 GMT
#14
On July 20 2011 21:45 Hyde wrote:
LOL he backstabbed you hahahaha


I find the back is the best place to stab people; knives rest right in there

I sometimes miss the old days of utter ineptitude. Nostalgia, perhaps, but sometimes it seemed like such a voyage of discovery to just feel out tech trees in RTS games I wasn't used to.
Moderator@SirJolt
edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
July 21 2011 01:53 GMT
#15
Though I play Protoss in SC2 because of the lasers, I prefer Terran when I play Brood War because it looks so cool. Protoss looks so... uncool in Brood War, you know? But other than that, good blog.
“There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.” - Clint Eastwood
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
July 21 2011 07:03 GMT
#16
On July 21 2011 10:39 SirJolt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 21:45 Hyde wrote:
LOL he backstabbed you hahahaha


I find the back is the best place to stab people; knives rest right in there

I sometimes miss the old days of utter ineptitude. Nostalgia, perhaps, but sometimes it seemed like such a voyage of discovery to just feel out tech trees in RTS games I wasn't used to.


TF2 has taught me nothing else Have sort of saved Company of Heroes for times when I want to experience exactly that tech-tree discovery, pained me to hear every Red Alert after 2 was exponentially less cool

On July 21 2011 10:53 edc wrote:
Though I play Protoss in SC2 because of the lasers, I prefer Terran when I play Brood War because it looks so cool. Protoss looks so... uncool in Brood War, you know? But other than that, good blog.


As Essbee says the imagination involved means everyone sees the a little differently, Terrans always had a solid chunky look to me, but they were just humans!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #93
CranKy Ducklings124
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 82
ProTech80
EnDerr 47
Hui .43
MindelVK 26
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 9529
Horang2 2635
Hyuk 1391
Shuttle 1311
EffOrt 750
Rain 514
Jaedong 511
Bisu 497
Mini 462
actioN 308
[ Show more ]
Hyun 182
TY 146
Last 145
firebathero 116
Killer 109
[sc1f]eonzerg 81
Pusan 73
Mind 69
ggaemo 57
Rush 45
Aegong 28
sorry 26
NaDa 21
Barracks 19
Sharp 18
Sacsri 16
Free 15
Dewaltoss 11
sSak 11
ivOry 9
JulyZerg 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe610
XaKoH 389
Fuzer 314
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1360
x6flipin446
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor292
Other Games
singsing2130
DeMusliM128
crisheroes115
SC2_NightMare1
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream7932
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 30
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 44
• Adnapsc2 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt602
Upcoming Events
AllThingsProtoss
18m
Fire Grow Cup
4h 18m
BSL: ProLeague
7h 18m
HBO vs Doodle
spx vs Tech
DragOn vs Hawk
Dewalt vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
13h 18m
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
GSL Code S
2 days
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
GSL Code S
3 days
herO vs TBD
Classic vs TBD
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Cheesadelphia
6 days
Cheesadelphia
6 days
GSL Code S
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.