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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
July 13 2011 00:17 GMT
#21
Turtles are reptiles and therefore change their skin/shells every once in a while.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 00:38:02
July 13 2011 00:25 GMT
#22
On July 13 2011 09:17 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Turtles are reptiles and therefore change their skin/shells every once in a while.


They don't molt. That's crustaceans and insects. Their scales on their back do flake away every year or two as they grow, but they never have a soft shell(except when very young), which is what I think you're getting at.

edit: Actually I guess it's still considered molting, but it's not all at once like snakes and doesn't produce a soft shell like insects/crustaceans.
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InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
July 13 2011 00:38 GMT
#23
On July 13 2011 09:25 Myles wrote:
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On July 13 2011 09:17 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Turtles are reptiles and therefore change their skin/shells every once in a while.


They don't molt. That's crustaceans and insects. Their scales on their back do flake away every year or two as they grow, but they never have a soft shell(except when very young), which is what I think you're getting at.


Maybe a small gator got in it? Its a legitimate possibility, I saw a gator in a retention pond there once.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
July 13 2011 03:38 GMT
#24
On July 13 2011 09:25 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 09:17 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Turtles are reptiles and therefore change their skin/shells every once in a while.


They don't molt. That's crustaceans and insects. Their scales on their back do flake away every year or two as they grow, but they never have a soft shell(except when very young), which is what I think you're getting at.

edit: Actually I guess it's still considered molting, but it's not all at once like snakes and doesn't produce a soft shell like insects/crustaceans.

They do molt. As far as I know, turtles start dropping their feathers whenever they run out of shell replacements.
NoodleFish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa198 Posts
July 13 2011 07:00 GMT
#25
dude... I don't wanna scare you, but maybe it was aliens!

RAWR!

Lol lets hope not.
Hope u find out what happened. Hopefully it wasn't something from the Horror Discussion Thread
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Kallehoe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden67 Posts
July 13 2011 09:07 GMT
#26
that´s some dmg, how fast was he going? ;p
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krok(obs)
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 09:31:02
July 13 2011 09:16 GMT
#27
hmmmm they look suspiciously similar to wounds one of my parents tortoises received a couple of years ago. a neighbours dog ( a husky mind you) came over the fence somehow and started worrying the tortoise a little in his mouth( in all likelyhood he was probably just playing around wíth her ). nevertheless his teeth left their mark on the poor little fella and hes not as pretty as he used to be. im sure the tortoise just shrugged it off but as u can see these little bitemarks look kinda similar to the one you showed us. now i can imagine a turtles shell being a little softer no? due to lots of exposure to water. to me it really seems like a dog got in and just got a little too curious and started having his way with your turtle. dont think turtles are too tasty for dogs and i think they quickly lose interest after discovering the hardy shell.

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*edit* come to think of it i dont see any other marks on your turtles shell except for the huge gouge. hmmmm on my parents shell you can still see smaller marks where the shell has been somewhat chipped away (the whitish spots) but not been penetrated, obviously stemming from the dogs teeth scratching at the shell. you mentioned the lack of bitemarks but then again i still think a stray dog (or similar animal) is your most likely source of injury. i mean, come on

dog/racoon? possible
alligator?( could an alligator get into your pond?)
bird?....naaww
canadian hockey player? quite a way from vancouver to florida so i guess you can rule that out.
other turtles? seems unlikely given the size of that bitemark but wouldnt rule it out.
disease? havent ever heard of anything like a rotting illness or the likes creating gouges like that in a turtles shell.

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j0k3r
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States577 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 12:17:50
July 13 2011 12:11 GMT
#28
Idt a raccoon would be dumb enough to bite the shell, in all likeleyhood your turtle would be eviscerated of flesh if a raccoon got a hold of it. The clean bite could indicate a small gator nipped at it, gators even small ones have serious bite force. Most non snapping turtles I've handled would not have the capability to bite thru shell their jaw forces are not too great unless theyve matured to significant size. How big are the other turtles?

Edit: taking a closer look, the width of the bite seems to be incongruent with the shape of a turtle's jaws. The bite is wider than it is deep, I think if another turtle had done that the wound would extend further inward and not be as wide. You can probably test this theory by having one of your turtles bite some foam or a vegetable like a large slice of carrot and compare the marks. Gator snouts however are wider up top and could possibly form a bite like that. It was most likely a juvinille unable to fit the turtle in it's mouth else we would see many marks on the top and bottom of the shell indicating an attempt of a larger gator to swallow.
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
July 13 2011 12:44 GMT
#29
I have this problem with a huge ass bird in my area. I live in Massachusetts and I have no idea what kind of bird it is but it's like 3-4 ft tall and has a huge wingspan. Bastard keeps attacking my fish!

I doubt a bird of any kind can make a bite like that though, and obviously if an animal like a raccoon got a hold of it you won't be just looking at a bite mark.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32098 Posts
July 13 2011 13:35 GMT
#30
Looks like a rock. Maybe the end of a snout of a small gator, but I wouldn't think a small gator could break a shell clean like that.
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Apocalyptic
Profile Joined July 2010
United States131 Posts
July 13 2011 13:41 GMT
#31
My guess is that a snapping turtle showed up and took a bite out of him, then left. We have 6 ponds on our property and snappers often travel from pond to pond by way of land. It seems like part of their instinct makes them search for new ponds or water, so I wouldn't be surprised if one was passing through your area.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32098 Posts
July 13 2011 14:15 GMT
#32
Don't snappers have a fairly pointy beak??
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Terrorcore
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada132 Posts
July 13 2011 16:11 GMT
#33
Is your turtle OK??

I used to have two turtles in an aquarium once (both male) and one turtle took a bite at the other like that. It ended up healing and leaving a huge 'scar' but yes it seems like this is something that happens in-between turtles.

Good luck!
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