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Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
July 07 2011 20:03 GMT
#1
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This phrase has become a rhetorical question like Do you believe in god? I answer both with No. Many people act surprised and a bit disgusted thinking: You are one of them, aren't you? Yes I am one of them. I don't want to be your virtual friend and I don't want to know what you are doing right now. I don't want to be in a group with a funny name and I don't want to go to your stylish party. We can talk in rl, maybe we can share mobile numbers, but that is it. I don't want people to ask me: I haven't seen you on facebook lately, anything wrong? That is none of your business.

Also, I don't have my mobile on all the time. No. I don't read all my mails every day, let alone answer them asap. The important ones I do read, yes, but: How is it going mate, I haven't heard of you much lately? I will not answer right now. I will answer these emails, but right now I'd rather spend time working out or watching a movie.

Are you having drug problems, because I have been trying to call you all night yesterday and your phone was off. FFS have you ever heard of the shitty batteries that are in our mobile phones? I don't run around charging it every fucking second day. There is no point in it. There is also no point in having games on my phone. I have a PC, I can play shitty flash games on it too, you know? Give me a phone that has a better battery than graphics, please. That will make me really happy.

I don't blame you, it is in your nature to be like that. I do understand. However, understand that I have a nature too. I am not like you and you are not like me. Lets be friends. In real life. Not on facebook.

*
edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
July 07 2011 20:08 GMT
#2
I have a FB, though I never use it. Everybody does annoying shit like 'like for ...' and tries to act cool. 'haha I had a great time with blablabla we did crazy shit lol that was great' annoys me beyond recognition.
“There are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.” - Clint Eastwood
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
July 07 2011 20:09 GMT
#3
But OP, do you have Google + ?
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
July 07 2011 20:10 GMT
#4
brb checking fb
[TLMS] REBOOT
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 20:23:15
July 07 2011 20:16 GMT
#5
I dont have a phone, and I don't have FB, I like being able to have my own time when I want it. My friends adjust and its fine. People can email me, I can phone anyone in North America with google for free, I can use skype for international ppl.

Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
July 07 2011 20:17 GMT
#6
The only reason I have a fb is so I can use it to find out when my friends are lying to me.
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
July 07 2011 20:18 GMT
#7
you are a butterfly

but really, i can kind of understand... i mostly keep facebook for close friends and relatives - to organize get-togethers and keep in touch.. it is going away when i get g+
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
July 07 2011 20:21 GMT
#8
Nope.
Mayor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States472 Posts
July 07 2011 20:28 GMT
#9
No, I'm totally clean. :D
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
July 07 2011 20:30 GMT
#10
well aren't you cool.
blabberrrrr
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
July 07 2011 20:34 GMT
#11
I have FB becouse it's easy to get something to do from there or just chat if I'm bored. Way easier than trough phone(unless you want to contact someone that is offline). no need to think who you're going to call. Pretty much everybody has facebook profile these days. It's not like theres anything wrong about it. Pretty much everyone has mobile phones also, it hasn't always been like that. Pretty much everyone have internet also. It's easy since you can go to facebook from everywhere wheres just a computer and internet access, no need to download any software.

I know few ppl that doesn't have FB-account, but those are mostly ppl with not too many friends or people that doesn't go out much.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 07 2011 20:37 GMT
#12
Oh my god, I thought I was the only one who despised the electronic leash syndrome.

We should start a facebook group! Just kidding. I hate that shit.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
July 07 2011 20:37 GMT
#13
I wish I was as cool as you, I'm just another facebook using sheep amirite.
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UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 20:41:31
July 07 2011 20:41 GMT
#14
I dont get people like you. Is this some sort of hipster trend, a hatred of facebook. As far as im concerned you sound about as weird and strange as someone ranting that they hate mobile phones becuase it ruins real life communication or some other rubbish. I heard technology is a good way to communicate over long distance....
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
July 07 2011 20:47 GMT
#15
As long as you don't use it as a substitute does it really matter?

Plus there's been plenty of times where I've gotten to know people better over facebook and that led us to becoming actual friends IRL.
brazenraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Romania122 Posts
July 07 2011 20:51 GMT
#16
On July 08 2011 05:37 Megaliskuu wrote:
I wish I was as cool as you, I'm just another facebook using sheep amirite.

what the fuck? did you read his post? he didn't say a thing about people who use facebook.
Zerg definitely does have responses to FFs pre-hive tech. Infestors, baneling drops, burrowed roaches, and mutas are all options
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
July 07 2011 20:54 GMT
#17
I've used Facebook in the past, but I never found it to be all that great.

What really irritates me is that whenever I walk out of the school library after playing starcraft, at least 90% of the school computers have a fb screen on them. There's much better stuff to do on the internet people D:
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
July 07 2011 20:55 GMT
#18
Fuck Facebook.

I'm 100% with you bro.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7890 Posts
July 07 2011 20:55 GMT
#19
On July 08 2011 05:03 Ludwigvan wrote:
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This phrase has become a rhetorical question like Do you believe in god? I answer both with No. Many people act surprised and a bit disgusted thinking: You are one of them, aren't you? Yes I am one of them. I don't want to be your virtual friend and I don't want to know what you are doing right now. I don't want to be in a group with a funny name and I don't want to go to your stylish party. We can talk in rl, maybe we can share mobile numbers, but that is it. I don't want people to ask me: I haven't seen you on facebook lately, anything wrong? That is none of your business.

Also, I don't have my mobile on all the time. No. I don't read all my mails every day, let alone answer them asap. The important ones I do read, yes, but: How is it going mate, I haven't heard of you much lately? I will not answer right now. I will answer these emails, but right now I'd rather spend time working out or watching a movie.

Are you having drug problems, because I have been trying to call you all night yesterday and your phone was off. FFS have you ever heard of the shitty batteries that are in our mobile phones? I don't run around charging it every fucking second day. There is no point in it. There is also no point in having games on my phone. I have a PC, I can play shitty flash games on it too, you know? Give me a phone that has a better battery than graphics, please. That will make me really happy.

I don't blame you, it is in your nature to be like that. I do understand. However, understand that I have a nature too. I am not like you and you are not like me. Lets be friends. In real life. Not on facebook.

You could also talk about that to real people instead of posting on online forum to virtual people you don't know anything about.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
TheSchwA
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States248 Posts
July 07 2011 20:56 GMT
#20
On July 08 2011 05:41 UdderChaos wrote:
I dont get people like you. Is this some sort of hipster trend, a hatred of facebook. As far as im concerned you sound about as weird and strange as someone ranting that they hate mobile phones becuase it ruins real life communication or some other rubbish. I heard technology is a good way to communicate over long distance....


This guy has it pretty much spot on.

ArtLu
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
July 07 2011 20:56 GMT
#21
On July 08 2011 05:54 Tatari wrote:
I've used Facebook in the past, but I never found it to be all that great.

What really irritates me is that whenever I walk out of the school library after playing starcraft, at least 90% of the school computers have a fb screen on them. There's much better stuff to do on the internet people D:

Better things like having TL open on a tab at all times :D
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
Vulcano
Profile Joined June 2011
United States147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 21:01:44
July 07 2011 20:59 GMT
#22



if i want to like something ill do it with my head.. poke something, ill do it with my finger...
or hear what every single person is doing, having for breakfast, where they are going, what they did this weekend, what color their new car is, how they are distraught, how they "can't believe how some ppl are", how they are just chilling, how bored they are, or what they're doing after class.. well.. my point is i just dont give any flying shits or fucks
(also, i have a facebook)

edit: plz dont take anything from my post except humor - im just talking shit (aren't blogs = shit talking?)
someone set up us the bomb
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8053 Posts
July 07 2011 21:00 GMT
#23
I haven't got FB, Hi5, Twitter or anything...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Vulcano
Profile Joined June 2011
United States147 Posts
July 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#24
On July 08 2011 06:00 prosatan wrote:
I haven't got FB, Hi5, Twitter or anything...


isnt twitter like.. facebook minus everything EXCEPT what ppl are doing all the time. their statuses..
thats the worst bit right?
someone set up us the bomb
chomsky
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada97 Posts
July 07 2011 21:03 GMT
#25
i dunno why people are so bothered by status updates..

i have facebook and i never make status updates, it's really just a digital rolodex where i can inbox anyone i know to make plans or talk to them
"Not to take this post too seriously, but..." -Chef
Jimbooo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
203 Posts
July 07 2011 21:05 GMT
#26
I dont really go on facebook alot , i use it to talk to friends sometimes (almost like AIM).
Other than that its pointless ^_^
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
July 07 2011 21:05 GMT
#27
On July 08 2011 05:56 TheSchwA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 05:41 UdderChaos wrote:
I dont get people like you. Is this some sort of hipster trend, a hatred of facebook. As far as im concerned you sound about as weird and strange as someone ranting that they hate mobile phones becuase it ruins real life communication or some other rubbish. I heard technology is a good way to communicate over long distance....


This guy has it pretty much spot on.




This is more like it:

Ludwigvan Germany. July 08 2011 05:03. Posts 888

No Facebook but blogging on Teamliquid to communicate... logical indeed.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
July 07 2011 21:05 GMT
#28
I've got a FB. It's a good way to keep in contact with people and have more group-based discussions when that isn't possible otherwise, or when it would require too much of a commitment (I'm not going to invite people over to talk about the Eagles game, for example).
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
Vulcano
Profile Joined June 2011
United States147 Posts
July 07 2011 21:06 GMT
#29
my status currently reads "Do not disturb my circles" .. prolly the first time ive changed it this year

5pts to who knows who said it
someone set up us the bomb
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#30
On July 08 2011 05:41 UdderChaos wrote:
I dont get people like you. Is this some sort of hipster trend, a hatred of facebook. As far as im concerned you sound about as weird and strange as someone ranting that they hate mobile phones becuase it ruins real life communication or some other rubbish. I heard technology is a good way to communicate over long distance....

This.
Tarbosh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States127 Posts
July 07 2011 21:10 GMT
#31
I don't think Facebook works like you think it works. And really, you don't have time to be "running around" charging your phone every other day? But you have time to play shitty flash games on your PC or sit down and watch a movie. Wow.
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
July 07 2011 21:18 GMT
#32
On July 08 2011 05:03 Ludwigvan wrote:
Also, I don't have my mobile on all the time. No. I don't read all my mails every day, let alone answer them asap. The important ones I do read, yes, but: How is it going mate, I haven't heard of you much lately? I will not answer right now. I will answer these emails, but right now I'd rather spend time working out or watching a movie.

Are you having drug problems, because I have been trying to call you all night yesterday and your phone was off. FFS have you ever heard of the shitty batteries that are in our mobile phones? I don't run around charging it every fucking second day. There is no point in it. There is also no point in having games on my phone. I have a PC, I can play shitty flash games on it too, you know? Give me a phone that has a better battery than graphics, please. That will make me really happy.

Lets be friends. In real life. Not on facebook.


I don't care about the facebook thing, but the phone thing bothers me. Why wouldn't you keep your phone on you at all times? If you are watching a movie, you can silence it.

"I will not answer right now." Fine. You have better things to do than answer right away, but the tone of your blog does seem a bit childish. Sometimes people call because they have problems they want to talk about, not just to hang out? Or maybe your friends don't come to you with those kinds of problems?

I just can't grasp this. I charge my phone every other day, and if it's a bad phone, then everyday. It takes all of 5 seconds to put it on the charger while I sleep, and then 3 seconds to take it off the charger when I wake up. I don't know what kind of "running around" you have to do, but it is really not that much of an inconvenience.

See I have a friend that never picks up his phone, and it is tough hanging out with him in real life. He lives an hour away form me and the rest of our friends, and more often than not we do not hang out with him because he doesn't pick up his phone. He doesn't use facebook either, which I think is fine if he picked up his phone. But he doesn't.

So the whole "let's be friends in real life" thing doesn't make sense to me when you aren't reachable. I don't have time to drive to your house to find out if you are busy or free. I do have 1 minute to send you a text or make a phone call though.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8836 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 21:23:49
July 07 2011 21:21 GMT
#33
As a guy who likes his alone time (and never seems to get it), I hate the notion that we need to be connected 24/7. I hate that it's expected of us. I hate that if I miss a phone call or don't immediately reply to a text message, people get pissy - so I understand where you're coming from, to a point, though some guidelines have to be made for common courtesy.

Still, I went for a bike ride into the bush the other day and got to the point where I had zero signal on my cell phone. It was a wonderful feeling.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Coriolis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 07 2011 21:23 GMT
#34
Personally I hate facebook. I only have one with a fake name and everything just so I can get into some contests. Personally I'd rather not share whats happening to me with people I don't know, and for people I do know I'd rather just tell them over the phone or in person.
Descolada in everything not TL/Starcraft
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2011 21:25 GMT
#35
On July 08 2011 06:23 Coriolis wrote:
Personally I hate facebook. I only have one with a fake name and everything just so I can get into some contests. Personally I'd rather not share whats happening to me with people I don't know, and for people I do know I'd rather just tell them over the phone or in person.

Facebook is just a site that allows you to interact with people in various ways. It's not about people knowing what you're doing (if you don't want it to be).
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32058 Posts
July 07 2011 21:25 GMT
#36
On July 08 2011 06:21 Flaccid wrote:
As a guy who likes his alone time (and never seems to get it), I hate the notion that we need to be connected 24/7. I hate that it's expected of us. I hate that if I miss a phone call or don't immediately reply to a text message, people get pissy - so I understand where you're coming from, to a point, though some guidelines have to be made for common courtesy.

Still, I went for a bike ride into the bush the other day and got to the point where I had zero signal on my cell phone. It was a wonderful feeling.


Bush??? I thought it's tundra outside of your igloo???

I too have grown to hate facebook. I have getting requests from people have no desire to talk to. I really only use it to write dumb, inappropriate comments on friend's walls.
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Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 21:34:22
July 07 2011 21:26 GMT
#37
On July 08 2011 06:09 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 05:41 UdderChaos wrote:
I dont get people like you. Is this some sort of hipster trend, a hatred of facebook. As far as im concerned you sound about as weird and strange as someone ranting that they hate mobile phones becuase it ruins real life communication or some other rubbish. I heard technology is a good way to communicate over long distance....

This.

I don't hate facebook. I just don't want to be part of it. Also I don't get why some people won't understand that there is no big deal in not having facebook, or not always answering my phone. Call me a hipster if you want to.

EDIT:

On July 08 2011 06:18 flowSthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 05:03 Ludwigvan wrote:
Also, I don't have my mobile on all the time. No. I don't read all my mails every day, let alone answer them asap. The important ones I do read, yes, but: How is it going mate, I haven't heard of you much lately? I will not answer right now. I will answer these emails, but right now I'd rather spend time working out or watching a movie.

Are you having drug problems, because I have been trying to call you all night yesterday and your phone was off. FFS have you ever heard of the shitty batteries that are in our mobile phones? I don't run around charging it every fucking second day. There is no point in it. There is also no point in having games on my phone. I have a PC, I can play shitty flash games on it too, you know? Give me a phone that has a better battery than graphics, please. That will make me really happy.

Lets be friends. In real life. Not on facebook.


I don't care about the facebook thing, but the phone thing bothers me. Why wouldn't you keep your phone on you at all times? If you are watching a movie, you can silence it.

"I will not answer right now." Fine. You have better things to do than answer right away, but the tone of your blog does seem a bit childish. Sometimes people call because they have problems they want to talk about, not just to hang out? Or maybe your friends don't come to you with those kinds of problems?

I just can't grasp this. I charge my phone every other day, and if it's a bad phone, then everyday. It takes all of 5 seconds to put it on the charger while I sleep, and then 3 seconds to take it off the charger when I wake up. I don't know what kind of "running around" you have to do, but it is really not that much of an inconvenience.

See I have a friend that never picks up his phone, and it is tough hanging out with him in real life. He lives an hour away form me and the rest of our friends, and more often than not we do not hang out with him because he doesn't pick up his phone. He doesn't use facebook either, which I think is fine if he picked up his phone. But he doesn't.

So the whole "let's be friends in real life" thing doesn't make sense to me when you aren't reachable. I don't have time to drive to your house to find out if you are busy or free. I do have 1 minute to send you a text or make a phone call though.

you are right. This is a reason why I charge my phone actually most of the time and look at my emails pretty often. I do care about my friends. That is the reason why I have a cellphone. I wouldn't need one if it weren't for urgent stuff.
Mactator
Profile Joined March 2011
109 Posts
July 07 2011 21:34 GMT
#38
I get your point. Sometimes it is better not to know or let people know. With facebook you are in contact with people you actually don't really have any connection with but you know for historical reasons.

Another thing, mobile phones (SMS messages) DO ruin real life communication for many people. It's like the internet where people say shitty stuff they would never have said IRL. I mean, some people even break up with an sms. How sick is that? Sms is good for many other obvious reasons though. Same with facebook, has its problems but okay if you use it properly.

I use facebook because it's easier to spread some news that I want people to know.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 21:48:13
July 07 2011 21:44 GMT
#39
I have a smurf account, just to abuse their services without giving back any real information.

In reality it's just to stay in touch with a couple of people who won't use Skype or IRC.

I'm not really opposed to social networks by principle, but I do think anonymity is a big and important part of the internet culture, and in that sense I'm not too fond of the recent trends of giving out personal information any more than is absolutely necessary.

I also try to encourage other people to do the same.
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
July 07 2011 21:49 GMT
#40
On July 08 2011 06:09 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 05:41 UdderChaos wrote:
I dont get people like you. Is this some sort of hipster trend, a hatred of facebook. As far as im concerned you sound about as weird and strange as someone ranting that they hate mobile phones becuase it ruins real life communication or some other rubbish. I heard technology is a good way to communicate over long distance....

This.


Tech is all fine and dandy but I wish the OP addressed my concens.
I have one and it's been detrimental in a variety of ways.

1) Privacy. I can not understand why every month a new update adds in features that expose me on a global level and do not ask my permission to do so.
2) Societal norms - It really is one of those things that if you don't have it, you're not "cool." or there's something wrong with you. Some people just don't have internet access, some people don't have time, some people don't want family members seeing what friends have to say and don't want to monitor the wall for posts
3) I know several people who won't even use the phone now. They post on FB, message you on skype or organize an event. I can agree with that being awkward.

The point is, he's got every right to not want to be on the bandwagon. Especially with news coming in routinely about how governments around the globe are taking interest. Or even jobs, now that searching you up and refusing you based on a FB is acceptable

It IS a nice tool, but it's also ok to not have one. The thing is, like smartphones, it's quickly becoming something you *need* to have to make it in today's world.


Now...talking about it and making a post about how much you dislike it on an internet forum board.. that's weird. If you don't like it so much, just don't talk about it. Problem solved.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 07 2011 21:54 GMT
#41
you are such a rebel
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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 07 2011 21:55 GMT
#42
On July 08 2011 05:03 Ludwigvan wrote:
I don't want to be your virtual friend and I don't want to know what you are doing right now. I don't want to be in a group with a funny name and I don't want to go to your stylish party.


Neither do I. But I do want to forget my friends' birthdays because I did not remember to write them down. I do want to be able to reach a friend who lives in another coutnry and I want to be able to communicate with them even if they have changed their phone number in the past few years.
You don't have to be on facebook 24/7... or more than once a week for that matter. But facebook can be quite useful sometimes. I've got back in touch with several old friends due to facebook.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
July 07 2011 21:56 GMT
#43
Hey guys. I just found out that making a facebook account does not require you to read other people's status updates or poke people back or like stuff your friends like or even use it at all. Oh also, you have the ability to choose the friend requests you accept.

I guess the bad part would be that the evil Facebook organization would have your vital information like your... email address.
kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
July 07 2011 22:04 GMT
#44
I love Facebook. It's a nice way to communicate with people.

They just partnered with Skype, so you can video chat with your Facebook friends without downloading a program (you just need a plug-in). Not sure when this will be released, but good ol' evil ruler Zuckerberg announced it yesterday.
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Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
July 07 2011 22:10 GMT
#45
On July 08 2011 06:49 TheGlassface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 06:09 OneOther wrote:
On July 08 2011 05:41 UdderChaos wrote:
I dont get people like you. Is this some sort of hipster trend, a hatred of facebook. As far as im concerned you sound about as weird and strange as someone ranting that they hate mobile phones becuase it ruins real life communication or some other rubbish. I heard technology is a good way to communicate over long distance....

This.


Tech is all fine and dandy but I wish the OP addressed my concens.
I have one and it's been detrimental in a variety of ways.

1) Privacy. I can not understand why every month a new update adds in features that expose me on a global level and do not ask my permission to do so.
2) Societal norms - It really is one of those things that if you don't have it, you're not "cool." or there's something wrong with you. Some people just don't have internet access, some people don't have time, some people don't want family members seeing what friends have to say and don't want to monitor the wall for posts
3) I know several people who won't even use the phone now. They post on FB, message you on skype or organize an event. I can agree with that being awkward.

The point is, he's got every right to not want to be on the bandwagon. Especially with news coming in routinely about how governments around the globe are taking interest. Or even jobs, now that searching you up and refusing you based on a FB is acceptable

It IS a nice tool, but it's also ok to not have one. The thing is, like smartphones, it's quickly becoming something you *need* to have to make it in today's world.

Now...talking about it and making a post about how much you dislike it on an internet forum board.. that's weird. If you don't like it so much, just don't talk about it. Problem solved.

Yep. These are pretty much my reasons as well. I have no interest whatsoever putting my personal information online like that. Employers are even beginning to ask that you add them on facebook so they can message you and check what you've been up to over the weekend.

Though I'd add that i've never particularly liked the idea of being constantly contactable, but my friends expect it of me and I make the effort to always carry my phone with me.

Basically it feels like i'd be giving up a ton for some questionable amount of convenience. Could somebody please explain what I actually stand to gain in real terms?
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 22:11:12
July 07 2011 22:11 GMT
#46
On July 08 2011 05:10 OpticalShot wrote:
brb checking fb



you like this
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Riku
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 22:19:24
July 07 2011 22:14 GMT
#47
What age do you have to be to have friends that do "like this if..." statuses and inform you of their every breath?

I use facebook because my friends share interesting articles and sites, offer help with homework, advice for games and actually like having photos around to share memories.

Sure, some people would rather go live in a receptionless pit. Just text me it's location so I can toss you a year's supply of Pabst and bad underground polka music.

Facebook communication has recently provided me with a beta invite and audiosurf! Communication is good!

However, google+ is best!
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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
July 07 2011 22:15 GMT
#48
The only reason for me to use FB would be to communicate with my dad, who is travelling around the world for his job most of the time.

But we call each other quite frequently and that actually means a lot to me, FB would destroy that. Videochat is not an option, due to timezones we sometimes phone at times where it's not really feasible to do so :p

I don't hate FB, why would I, but most of my friends that used it and would be a reason to use it already quit FB and use oldschool methods of communicating like skype, qip or phone.
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
July 07 2011 22:33 GMT
#49
I fucking hate facebook. It's obnoxious to use, I don't like friend requests from people I met ONCE in my freaking life-- even people I do know well, I rarely want to tell them all the same information about my private life. Messing with settings to try to insure I don't screw up is a pain in the ass. The sheer amount of personal information FB demands from you makes it not worthwhile in my eyes. The actual service is so terrible I wouldn't use it anyway. (Yes I did use it for one year before becoming completely disgusted with it and deleting it.)

If you are truly my friend, we will find other ways to communicate such as texting, calling, skyping, gchatting.

Disliking FB has nothing to do with a hipster trend (in my case), and everything to do with their blatant disregard with of privacy, the number of obnoxious people on there I would just like to never see or speak to again, and an interface that makes it difficult to do anything your way.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 07 2011 22:42 GMT
#50
lol, just use your FB idiots.
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Riku
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1064 Posts
July 07 2011 23:03 GMT
#51
On July 08 2011 07:33 RedJustice wrote:
I fucking hate facebook. It's obnoxious to use, I don't like friend requests from people I met ONCE in my freaking life-- even people I do know well, I rarely want to tell them all the same information about my private life. Messing with settings to try to insure I don't screw up is a pain in the ass. The sheer amount of personal information FB demands from you makes it not worthwhile in my eyes. The actual service is so terrible I wouldn't use it anyway. (Yes I did use it for one year before becoming completely disgusted with it and deleting it.)

If you are truly my friend, we will find other ways to communicate such as texting, calling, skyping, gchatting.

Disliking FB has nothing to do with a hipster trend (in my case), and everything to do with their blatant disregard with of privacy, the number of obnoxious people on there I would just like to never see or speak to again, and an interface that makes it difficult to do anything your way.


Can you please describe this "sheer amount of personal information" facebook is demanding?

You know someone is being bias and stubborn when they can't even justify their complaints with facts.
Creative Director, CEO at Stumbling Cat, Writer for Broken Joysticks - Twitter: @RikuKat
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
July 07 2011 23:20 GMT
#52
On July 08 2011 07:33 RedJustice wrote:
I fucking hate facebook. It's obnoxious to use, I don't like friend requests from people I met ONCE in my freaking life-- even people I do know well, I rarely want to tell them all the same information about my private life. Messing with settings to try to insure I don't screw up is a pain in the ass. The sheer amount of personal information FB demands from you makes it not worthwhile in my eyes. The actual service is so terrible I wouldn't use it anyway. (Yes I did use it for one year before becoming completely disgusted with it and deleting it.)

If you are truly my friend, we will find other ways to communicate such as texting, calling, skyping, gchatting.

Disliking FB has nothing to do with a hipster trend (in my case), and everything to do with their blatant disregard with of privacy, the number of obnoxious people on there I would just like to never see or speak to again, and an interface that makes it difficult to do anything your way.

calm down Tom, Mark will add you on Google+ when you get an account....
Batssa
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States154 Posts
July 07 2011 23:33 GMT
#53
You know, when people move and have to go do things in... life, facebook is a good tool to keep in touch. If other people are just accepting random friend requests and doing dumb surveys, then that's their choice. Facebook is pretty darn helpful though, although I rarely use it.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
July 07 2011 23:48 GMT
#54
On July 08 2011 05:55 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 05:03 Ludwigvan wrote:
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This phrase has become a rhetorical question like Do you believe in god? I answer both with No. Many people act surprised and a bit disgusted thinking: You are one of them, aren't you? Yes I am one of them. I don't want to be your virtual friend and I don't want to know what you are doing right now. I don't want to be in a group with a funny name and I don't want to go to your stylish party. We can talk in rl, maybe we can share mobile numbers, but that is it. I don't want people to ask me: I haven't seen you on facebook lately, anything wrong? That is none of your business.

Also, I don't have my mobile on all the time. No. I don't read all my mails every day, let alone answer them asap. The important ones I do read, yes, but: How is it going mate, I haven't heard of you much lately? I will not answer right now. I will answer these emails, but right now I'd rather spend time working out or watching a movie.

Are you having drug problems, because I have been trying to call you all night yesterday and your phone was off. FFS have you ever heard of the shitty batteries that are in our mobile phones? I don't run around charging it every fucking second day. There is no point in it. There is also no point in having games on my phone. I have a PC, I can play shitty flash games on it too, you know? Give me a phone that has a better battery than graphics, please. That will make me really happy.

I don't blame you, it is in your nature to be like that. I do understand. However, understand that I have a nature too. I am not like you and you are not like me. Lets be friends. In real life. Not on facebook.

You could also talk about that to real people instead of posting on online forum to virtual people you don't know anything about.

Blasphemy!
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Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
July 07 2011 23:52 GMT
#55
Social Media is not a trendy thing of the week, its a complete revolution on how we communicate, digest news, and essentially, broadcast our lives. Yes, there are definitely demons in the design, but the big changes are quite good and profound. Social media is helping fuel revolutions in the middle east, south asian, and abroad. Now, YOU dont have to play the game and join in. thats your opinion. But by neglecting to be a part of social media you are also disconnecting yourself from the forward momentum of the world. Its the same as cell phones. I had a lot of friends who were all "fukk dat shit mannnn" about cellphones, and now it seems silly to not have a device that allows you to speak to any person in the world, look up any fact in the world, find your position in the world and how to get there. People are so under-appreciative of the amazing things we have given to us since the birth of modern computing and the internet.
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matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 00:04:46
July 08 2011 00:02 GMT
#56
When you go to college 600 miles from where you went to high school, Facebook becomes pretty much the only way to stay in touch with any high school friends outside of the really close ones. Shooting out a Facebook message is by far the easiest way to see if any of my old friends want to meet up when I'm home. See that? Facebook can contribute to real-life friendships.

Other than that, I like being able to share cool/funny/interesting stuff that I find on the internet.

If you're concerned about privacy, don't tell Facebook anything that you don't want them to share. If you're concerned about random people friending you, then don't accept their friend requests. If you hate apps and quizzes and shit, don't take them. It's not rocket science.

But I haven't really heard anyone who doesn't use Facebook give any real reason for it that doesn't rely on some silly exaggerated notion of how you're expected to keep people up-to-date on every second of your life.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
July 08 2011 00:14 GMT
#57
personally i hate both facebook and mobile phones.

For facebook, i keep it to the bare minimum. Just to keep in touch with friend who I have difficulty meeting (too far etc). And that is it. I never join any groups or feel obliged to respond to random crap.

For phones, I really hate them and I am notorious with my friends and family for not answering. When I leave the house I have it on me maybe 1 out of 4 times.
Sometimes, I just dont want to answer the phone for anyone. And whoever calls me, I might not actually want to talk to them at the moment. But when I do speak to them, they are like "hey i was calling you, how come you didnt answer?". Anyway, Ive been doing this for like 10 years xD so whoever knows me, knows what to expect
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 08 2011 00:32 GMT
#58
Hating on Facebook is pretty popular now. Might wanna hate something else before hating it becomes cool.
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
July 08 2011 00:41 GMT
#59
On July 08 2011 09:32 Chairman Ray wrote:
Hating on Facebook is pretty popular now. Might wanna hate something else before hating it becomes cool.

I should be starting hating on you. Its new and fresh.
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
July 08 2011 00:49 GMT
#60
On July 08 2011 05:56 TheSchwA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 05:41 UdderChaos wrote:
I dont get people like you. Is this some sort of hipster trend, a hatred of facebook. As far as im concerned you sound about as weird and strange as someone ranting that they hate mobile phones becuase it ruins real life communication or some other rubbish. I heard technology is a good way to communicate over long distance....


This guy has it pretty much spot on.


Yeah definitely. I see things like this in a simple way.. It's just a way to talk to your friends online and nothing more. People make it out to be the worst thing in the world and I have no idea why they're so upset.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9619 Posts
July 08 2011 00:54 GMT
#61
lol that OP has more important things to do, "like watch movies."
Dice17
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
July 08 2011 00:57 GMT
#62
I will not ladder in sc2 if I am talking to people on facebook and I am sad to say I have played things like farmville before
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 08 2011 01:00 GMT
#63
On July 08 2011 09:41 Ludwigvan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 09:32 Chairman Ray wrote:
Hating on Facebook is pretty popular now. Might wanna hate something else before hating it becomes cool.

I should be starting hating on you. Its new and fresh.


But I'm not popular and cool, it would go against the hipster code.
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
July 08 2011 01:49 GMT
#64
I dont use facebook.

I might consider google + because its functionality makes sense to me. Putting your family, friends and colleagues all into one group on facebook defeats the purpose for me. There are things I talk to my family about but not to my friends and so on.

Also, it beggars my definition of friendship. I have maybe 3 "close" friends, 20 people whose company I enjoy and the rest are acquintances. I know I'm a bit of a hermit but I don't "get" people who have 650 "friends". That dude 3 cubicles away is not a "friend", hes just a colleague who you don't share any interests with who you added on an internet site. I guess I'm old fashioned.

Sure social media is changing the world. In some places and situations it makes sense. I find a phone call, a visit or an email to be much more meaninful that a scribble on a wall or a twitter update. Too many sheeple following the trends just in case they will be considered uncool imo!
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
July 08 2011 01:53 GMT
#65
Pretty silly of people insulting the guy for not liking facebook.

I don't like facebook much either. I still have one though. I also think it'd be cool if cell phones didn't exist, but that's just me.
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
July 08 2011 02:52 GMT
#66
On July 08 2011 05:16 caradoc wrote:
I dont have a phone, and I don't have FB, I like being able to have my own time when I want it. My friends adjust and its fine. People can email me, I can phone anyone in North America with google for free, I can use skype for international ppl.



True that dude I'm doing the same thing and it keeps drama out of my life as well which is my main reason for doing it (also don't like to know too much about my buddies, some things people post that they should keep to themselves on those sites lol).
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
July 08 2011 03:29 GMT
#67
On July 08 2011 05:41 UdderChaos wrote:
I dont get people like you. Is this some sort of hipster trend, a hatred of facebook. As far as im concerned you sound about as weird and strange as someone ranting that they hate mobile phones becuase it ruins real life communication or some other rubbish. I heard technology is a good way to communicate over long distance....


I wouldn't say it's just "some sort of hipster trend." To be honest, while I was in college, like many college students, I checked my facebook everyday... often multiple times a day. I went to China for 3 weeks, and without a VPN I was forcibly weaned off facebook. At first I missed it and felt terribly disconnected, but later when I came back to the states and logged on I found myself...kind of starting to hate it. I will say though that my mentality is somewhat different from the OP's. My dislike for it stemmed from its promotion of narcissistic tendencies, its encouragement of over sharing, the inundation of people's every thought or mood on your newsfeed as soon as you long on, and many people's obsession with their 'online persona' (having a facebook gives you control of people's perception of you, something not entirely in your control irl. for example, on facebook many of my friends hide all their tagged pictures and have only a handful profile pictures of them doing extremely exciting things or looking wildly hot.. in real life you can't always present an attractive image of yourself to everyone you meet, or hide away bad embarrassing moments). Not to say that I don't think facebook has its benefits -- it's a great tool for keeping in touch with friends, especially people who are not on the level that you'd send them long emails, but would want to just say hi and ask what's up. I just think that in some ways, like many things in life, facebook can be both a blessing and a curse .
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 08 2011 03:56 GMT
#68
I used to have a facebook until I am tired of surpass the great wall of China every freaking time I want to access it.
One can have fun and keep in touch with friends and new stuff with facebook, but you still fine w/o facebook so...whatever. Its not like 4-5 years ago when facebook is the cool thing to do.
Terran
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 08 2011 04:12 GMT
#69
On July 08 2011 10:53 Jonoman92 wrote:
Pretty silly of people insulting the guy for not liking facebook.

I don't like facebook much either. I still have one though. I also think it'd be cool if cell phones didn't exist, but that's just me.

I don't think people care about the fact that he doesn't like Facebook. To me, he comes off as saying joining groups, organizing "party" events or connecting with people on Facebook is lame compared to what he does. Thing is, it's not like Facebook interferes or limits my connections with people in real life. One is uniquely enjoyable on its own. I charge my phone every day. So what? And even if it's not someone close, I will always appreciate him or her contacting me and asking me how I am doing. I value that more than watching movies or working out, as the OP seems to do. I am not going to try to change the way he thinks or acts, I don't care. But when you are doing things (such as writing this blog about how you are better than Facebook to a bunch of random people online), then yes, people are going to get irked.
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