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Geordie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom653 Posts
June 26 2011 17:51 GMT
#1
Am I the only one who finds it really pathetic every time that they check out the homestory cup thread with the amount of people who like use it as an emotional toilet where they say take it upon themself to say random crap just to get their post count up...

It really really infuriates me when I look at the thread to see everybody's opinons on the games and I just see people saying " LOL " " Haha" " OMG " . I am new to team liquid and I would like to ask if it is like this in every tournament thread?

Thanks for reading.

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ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
June 26 2011 17:54 GMT
#2
LR threads are pretty awful. There are just so many comments in them that it seems impossible to moderate them properly, and thus many people just post things like OMG or EPIC WIN... stuff that would be fine to say in chat, but that aren't post-worthy.
HuskyMUDKIPZ
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
228 Posts
June 26 2011 17:54 GMT
#3
lol haha omg you are right
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
June 26 2011 17:55 GMT
#4
I truly hate it as well, you are not alone
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Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
June 26 2011 17:55 GMT
#5
As with most live reports threads, people treat them a bit like a chat room (they shouldn't be, but they do. I think everyone is guilty however) as long as they're on subject discussing the games at hand and not random nonsense, it's helpful to get a feeling of the game as it progresses as people discuss. Ofc when a game ends and you get 4 pages of "GG" that's not useful, but at least you know the game finished I guess. The Live report thread from the recent MLG during the Idra v MMA game.. went into utter meltdown. All good fun tho.
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Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
June 26 2011 17:57 GMT
#6
I find it irritating as well. Threads shouldn't be treated as IRC channels.
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 17:59:32
June 26 2011 17:58 GMT
#7
On June 27 2011 02:51 Geordie wrote:
Am I the only one who finds it really pathetic every time that they check out the homestory cup thread with the amount of people who like use it as an emotional toilet where they say take it upon themself to say random crap just to get their post count up...

It really really infuriates me when I look at the thread to see everybody's opinons on the games and I just see people saying " LOL " " Haha" " OMG " . I am new to team liquid and I would like to ask if it is like this in every tournament thread?

Thanks for reading.

omg lol hahahaha

srry i just wanr tankj pic...

User was temp banned for this post.
Geordie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom653 Posts
June 26 2011 18:02 GMT
#8
On June 27 2011 02:58 Geovu wrote:
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On June 27 2011 02:51 Geordie wrote:
Am I the only one who finds it really pathetic every time that they check out the homestory cup thread with the amount of people who like use it as an emotional toilet where they say take it upon themself to say random crap just to get their post count up...

It really really infuriates me when I look at the thread to see everybody's opinons on the games and I just see people saying " LOL " " Haha" " OMG " . I am new to team liquid and I would like to ask if it is like this in every tournament thread?

Thanks for reading.

omg lol hahahaha

srry i just wanr tankj pic...


I think that is the mindset of bloody everybody in the match report threads.
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
June 26 2011 18:02 GMT
#9
I don't post in LR threads for 2 reasons. Nobody is going to read what I say, and I won't be able to read what everybody else says.
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
June 26 2011 18:04 GMT
#10
This sounds like the majority of my posting history, hmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Geordie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom653 Posts
June 26 2011 18:04 GMT
#11
On June 27 2011 03:02 canucks12 wrote:
I don't post in LR threads for 2 reasons. Nobody is going to read what I say, and I won't be able to read what everybody else says.


Hmm yeah it actually never occured to me that every post that I did say on a LR thread would just get drowned by a wave of posts of " HAHA " and " GG " and that it would actually never be read.
DuckS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
June 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#12
omg haha spot on
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
June 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#13
LR threads are treated as a place to watch the games together and share the emotional experience. It adds to the hype and social experience when a thread gains 10 pages whenever Boxer enters the booth, don't you agree? People "spouting random crap" may not be desirable, but it's certainly understandable to me.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 26 2011 18:14 GMT
#14
On June 27 2011 03:12 Scorch wrote:
LR threads are treated as a place to watch the games together and share the emotional experience. It adds to the hype and social experience when a thread gains 10 pages whenever Boxer enters the booth, don't you agree? People "spouting random crap" may not be desirable, but it's certainly understandable to me.


From what I understand they used to be made for people who were not there to watch the games, whenever I was at school I was unable to watch BW games live due to resistrictions, so I just read for example Zona's LRing instead so that I know whats going on.
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valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
June 26 2011 18:20 GMT
#15
There are quite a few people who still do quality LRing like chain spoiler quoting themselves. But they are the minority tho.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 26 2011 18:28 GMT
#16
As someone who generally avoid those threads, I can aptly say that bad posting along those lines are not limited to LR threads.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10546 Posts
June 26 2011 18:30 GMT
#17
does giving live commentary on an LR like "player A taking 6 oclock, Player B moving forces to intercept Player A's units moving to 5" would those count into that?
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leftykill
Profile Joined October 2009
United States120 Posts
June 26 2011 18:30 GMT
#18
One of the reasons why my post count is so low. I like to read the threads, but mostly find stuff I don't find interesting or there are already 10 pages long and don't feel like voicing my opinion.
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 18:44:19
June 26 2011 18:31 GMT
#19
Barring the few people who use LR threads to actually report what is going on in the game(s) for those who can't watch the stream, the LR threads are essentially the Youtube comments of TL

edit: youtube comments without the random witty remark that makes them worth reading on a rare (drunken) occasion
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 26 2011 18:43 GMT
#20
SC2 Live Threads are absolute horror lol
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MountainGoat
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States508 Posts
June 26 2011 18:51 GMT
#21
I also hate it when people feel the need to comment on every single thread even if their opinion is pretty much irrelevant and their post doesn't add much to the conversation. It seems like some people just want to post constantly.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 26 2011 18:52 GMT
#22
Welcome to live report threads in general.

Ken it applies to every LR thread not just SC2. It gets magnified because there are so many more people. x-x
Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
June 26 2011 19:07 GMT
#23
I try to say something somewhat detailed and stay on topic. So many people though. And I want to talk solely about the game but I don't feel I have enough knowledge about it, so I try to balance discussion of the game with whatever is being talked about in the live report thread. I don't think I've ever posted less than 5 words, so I guess I'm not as bad as 70% of the people today lol.

Best LR was Inca vs Rain in GSL May (I think) when Rain destroyed half of Inca's base and Inca still won. So many people called gg preemptively when Rain pulled ahead (I think they even put a thing at the top of the page saying to stop doing that because it throws people off who can't watch the game), it was so funny when it ended.

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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 19:37:46
June 26 2011 19:36 GMT
#24
Yeah seriously what a terrible crime.

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Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
June 26 2011 19:39 GMT
#25
yeah


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no but seriously it is rampant and there really isn't much you can do about it+ Show Spoiler +
closer to 1k! :D
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 19:59:37
June 26 2011 19:57 GMT
#26
Seriously, though, it's not like you gain that much respect from having a high post count - hopefully there aren't too many people actually doing it for that reason. Being a 'known name' from memorable blogs/hilarious posts/community contributions does a hell of a lot more than a high post count.

Live Report threads (for SC2 at least) remind me of how a group of friends might watch a football game (for example) except since all these people are connected in communication over the internet, they dump all these comments (cheers, petty arguments) into the thread. Since these people can't gather together with their buddies all the time to watch Starcraft so they can shout and yell and argue as the game plays out, they can use the LR threads as a proxy for it.

I'm not sure that this is such a terrible thing - though at that point it's pretty useless for those who are hoping for play by play analysis/reports (I know one guy has been doing this, Drazerk or something?).
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 26 2011 20:07 GMT
#27
I also hate it... Wait...

As someone who Actually uses LR Threads to make Live reports / Read live reports I do see a flurry of awful posters on them. For people actually wanting play by play reports you generally only need to scan the Original post for a link and ignore the rest.
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 20:12:47
June 26 2011 20:10 GMT
#28
LR threads are a place to shout random stuff about the games.
Its like you and a bunch of buds watching sports together; in this case, you wouldn't don a hat and monocle and start a debate on whether that 6pool was the correct choice- you yell "6pool", high five and yell random stuff (profanities, cheers, etc.).

*"lol" is probably cause of idra v. huk
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Danjoh
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden405 Posts
June 26 2011 20:14 GMT
#29
How hard would it be to set up one of those web irc things and just link that in the OP so people can spam away, and then be adamant about one liners in the thread itself?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 26 2011 20:20 GMT
#30
I think I've only posted in the LR topics for major events: MLG and Dreamhack (and maybe one NASL).

Other than that, I never post in it. No one really reads it since it's going at a fast-pace and the same shit gets said 1,000 times, me included.

that and the dumbest arguments get hooked for no fucking reason.

Yeah, I agree.
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 26 2011 20:23 GMT
#31
On June 27 2011 05:10 Rinrun wrote:
LR threads are a place to shout random stuff about the games.
Its like you and a bunch of buds watching sports together; in this case, you wouldn't don a hat and monocle and start a debate on whether that 6pool was the correct choice- you yell "6pool", high five and yell random stuff (profanities, cheers, etc.).

*"lol" is probably cause of idra v. huk


This.
I doubt many if at all people go into a live report with the intent to get their post count up. I mean, that's just silly. They go into the live report to share their feelings, to share the excitement that they feel contained within them. When I go into a live report, I apparently do what alot of you say is wrong.

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I scream HUKKKKKKK when he comes back against Naniwa to win the series.

I repeat what MC says because it helps make my day.


I laugh when players make mistakes, I cry when they lose. Starcraft is a sport to me, you're not going to prevent people from celebrating it. Even if desired, to ask everyone to try to give an opinion(which is probably wrong anyway) when they just want to shout their favorite players names.

Yes, this is a community of Starcraft aficionados, but in the end we're just a bunch of fans. And that's something I don't see anything wrong with.

ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
June 26 2011 20:27 GMT
#32
LR threads are more in-game reactions for people who don't have anyone else they're watching games with. If you don't like that, then don't go to LR threads?
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Neroin
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany173 Posts
June 26 2011 20:41 GMT
#33
I agree that most of the posts in a LR thread are useless and annoying. But at the same time it adds a feeling like in a stadium where everybody is really excited. Maybe people could tone it down a bit and not post the same stuff over and over again, but overall I think it adds to the live experience.
Considering the post count, I guess if you balance your low content/low quality posting in LR threads with better posts in other threads it's ok. But if you only post like that you will eventually be banned. Kinda like a "posting MMA" that gets higher with good posts and lower with bad posts. If it gets too low you get demoted (warned/temp banned/banned).
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
June 26 2011 21:13 GMT
#34
Gotta admit, I noticed it too but it never really bugged me. Most of the actual discussion about the game I have with friends on skype.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
June 26 2011 22:11 GMT
#35
I've never actually done a live thread in the many years ive been here... but isn't the entire concept behind it that the thread moves really fast and people's responses will be shorter as a result??
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 26 2011 22:20 GMT
#36
On June 27 2011 07:11 Hawk wrote:
I've never actually done a live thread in the many years ive been here... but isn't the entire concept behind it that the thread moves really fast and people's responses will be shorter as a result??

Yeah but some of the people post a variation of the same thing twice in a page, and no one really notices because the threads going so fast

example:

OMG BOXER JUST BUILT A BUNKER IN HIS OPPONENTS NATURAL
2 posts later from the same person
OH MY GOD BOXER BUNKER RUSH

I dont know if that ever happened but thats an example
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
June 26 2011 22:36 GMT
#37
well if it's the same person saying it twice ok, but I thought the complain was that many people on the same page of the thread will just say that or some variation on BOXER RUSH or whatever is happening. I'm asking isn't that kind of the point, that it functions like a slow chatroom??
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RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
June 26 2011 23:21 GMT
#38
I agree with this as far as SC2 live threads are concerned but BW threads are mainly someone actually updating on whats happening and then the rest are people talking about what could have happened etc. In the end if your kind of asking whether or not people care about post count I would think the answer would be no, at least imo only because it matters when you first registered here way more than your post count.

I see many people that have been here for a few months with like thousands of posts but before I always take someone seriously I never mind peeking at there profile just to see when they registered. I'm glad they have that feature on here for us all to see so we know the "TL" age of those speaking.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 26 2011 23:36 GMT
#39
LR threads are the only decent part that is left of TL.

It's pure, unadulterated emotion, you enjoy an event and get the feeling of being part of a community, whereas in other sub-forums it's mostly idiotic teenagers babbling on and on about crap they haven't a clue about, completely inept at getting their point across and making up nonsensical BS arguments just for the sake of it.

It may sound arrogant but the average TLer just isn't worth having a discussion with, and especially not with the vast amount of mongoloids that drown out the one or two decent posts that might occur once in a while.

And concerning people not reading your posts, it's actually the exact other way around. Many, many more people read LR threads compared to actual 'discussion' threads because the average post length is much shorter and more to the point. The last LR thread I created received 2.4 million views, you can't tell me no-one read that.
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Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 01:25:43
June 27 2011 01:22 GMT
#40
I don't know, I mean sometimes in the heat of a really exciting moment after a big match gets over or something cool happens it can be very satisfying to post something that reflects the pure super-excited emotion that you are feeling, and see it up there next to people that are very excited about the same things you are, I'm not condoning it, just saying I can understand that.

LR threads usually get huge and posts gets buried pretty quickly, so they aren't really for live reporting anymore, its a place where people watching from home can just cheer and go crazy when something exciting happens alongside the only other people on this earth that also find SC2 matches ridiculously exciting and meaningful I don't find that dumb, I find that cool. Chickenlips above me said it very well.

Edit: also I think twitter feeds can more effectively serve the purpose that LR threads used to, and are a pretty cool tool that has come about.
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
June 27 2011 01:26 GMT
#41
On June 27 2011 07:20 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 07:11 Hawk wrote:
I've never actually done a live thread in the many years ive been here... but isn't the entire concept behind it that the thread moves really fast and people's responses will be shorter as a result??

Yeah but some of the people post a variation of the same thing twice in a page, and no one really notices because the threads going so fast

example:

OMG BOXER JUST BUILT A BUNKER IN HIS OPPONENTS NATURAL
2 posts later from the same person
OH MY GOD BOXER BUNKER RUSH

I dont know if that ever happened but thats an example

2 pages is nothing considering how fast the pages go when something exciting happens. There's different stream delays between people and different typing speeds, they were probably all typing near the same time or didn't actually refresh the LR thread.

I like BW LR threads a lot, SC2 LR threads not so much. Don't really know why or what the differences are.
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
June 27 2011 01:33 GMT
#42
On June 27 2011 10:26 Count9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 07:20 arb wrote:
On June 27 2011 07:11 Hawk wrote:
I've never actually done a live thread in the many years ive been here... but isn't the entire concept behind it that the thread moves really fast and people's responses will be shorter as a result??

Yeah but some of the people post a variation of the same thing twice in a page, and no one really notices because the threads going so fast

example:

OMG BOXER JUST BUILT A BUNKER IN HIS OPPONENTS NATURAL
2 posts later from the same person
OH MY GOD BOXER BUNKER RUSH

I dont know if that ever happened but thats an example

2 pages is nothing considering how fast the pages go when something exciting happens. There's different stream delays between people and different typing speeds, they were probably all typing near the same time or didn't actually refresh the LR thread.

I like BW LR threads a lot, SC2 LR threads not so much. Don't really know why or what the differences are.


A lot of the fan base is newer to the scene and don't quite understand the concept or original use of LR threads, basically they are new and don't know about the tradition of LR threads on TL.
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
June 27 2011 02:00 GMT
#43
On June 27 2011 10:26 Count9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 07:20 arb wrote:
On June 27 2011 07:11 Hawk wrote:
I've never actually done a live thread in the many years ive been here... but isn't the entire concept behind it that the thread moves really fast and people's responses will be shorter as a result??

Yeah but some of the people post a variation of the same thing twice in a page, and no one really notices because the threads going so fast

example:

OMG BOXER JUST BUILT A BUNKER IN HIS OPPONENTS NATURAL
2 posts later from the same person
OH MY GOD BOXER BUNKER RUSH

I dont know if that ever happened but thats an example

2 pages is nothing considering how fast the pages go when something exciting happens. There's different stream delays between people and different typing speeds, they were probably all typing near the same time or didn't actually refresh the LR thread.

I like BW LR threads a lot, SC2 LR threads not so much. Don't really know why or what the differences are.


Because nobody cries imbalance for 10 pages when their favorite loses to another race in the BW ones
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