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RGnt
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Finland100 Posts
June 24 2011 16:24 GMT
#1
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236979
On June 25 2011 00:41 lamamitasche wrote:
For 15 minutes Chris 'HuK' Loranger was looked at the gleaming yellow little man, waited for his next Battle.net opponent. Because his rating is too high, (and he tried to find games on the NA server) the search was unsuccessful. Dario 'TLO' Wünsch helped him out and lent his account to the Canadian. Blizzard is not pleased with that.

Because HuK used the account of his team member TLOs even in the Custom Games , during his Germany trip, and in his first official games of the HomeStoryCup, Blizzard intervenes. During the practice game for HuK vs Stephano Dennis 'TaKe' Gehlen received a phone call from Marc Olbertz, Community manager of Blizzard.

In this conversation he threatened that, in case of further Account-Sharing between TLO and HuK, Blizzard will close the account of TheLittleOne. Particularly he did not understand that custom games where played with that account. HuK did not seem to bother to change the account after his practice match for the game against Stephano. Now this could have consequences.

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I find it quite funny to see that Blizzard bothers and even calling Dennis 'TaKe' Gehlen just to stop account sharing.In my opinion If they would add lan, a global ladder or fix the ladder for top players that might not happen so often.

(i hope its readable because im not a native speaker :D)


In the thread there's loads of upset people now complaining bout Blizzard so I thought to write little blog entry instead.
First of all, we all have agreed to that we don't share our account and thus Blizzard has all rights to do this, "sadly". And I think main reason for this is because there is some pro gamers who are boosting some lower accounts for money and it's sometimes hard to catch they want to give little warning to whole community that it's not acceptable. Remember Ladder is COMPETITIVE environment and your rank actually "matters" there. It's YOUR ranking not your good friend's whose in Masters or Grand Masters. This ranking is used for invites and so on, and if someone else is playing for you it would screw that quite badly. It could be thought as "cheating" on entry exams or qualify test. But Blizzard can also blame em selves for this kind of behavior in some environments. But I don't agree with their view when it comes to "custom" games. They really shouldn't care about taht, and I know MANY are using their friend's accounts during tourneys and so on. And we wouldn't even have this problem if we had LAN play, which they continually refuse to implement for some odd reason like piracy... Piracy is running wild for SC2 and there is already some pirate lan servers created for friends to use in lan play, so I don't see point behind that excuse. So instead of "forcing" people to share their account, implement LAN and you can avoid many "bad publicity" of yours and pros. And yes I understand that it would cause some possible loss due to tournaments could "avoid" buying the game. One good option would be to create two different lan systems. One implemented in to a game, and more advanced "dedicated" version for bigger tournaments that could have extra features like central replay deposit, "tournament" system where players "register" in the beginning of the tournament with their bnet account and it could handle things like seeding, round robin and other common tournament management. And it could be possible to add some sort of "result pusher" that creates html site with results, rounds and so on. And it wouldn't take too much form you to create such a system, you have the resources and knowledge. And with that it could be possible to add feature like "Tournament Replay", simple package that you could open and go through replays from certain tournament without having to "reload" old version every time. And I could go on about this longer, but it starts to go off topic.

Anyways TL;DR; Blizzard enforces their policies, and community cries even if they've agreed to said policies. LAN should be implemented, now that piracy can't be used as a reason. And even if we don't agree with all Blizzard's policies, we should still obey em as we did "sign" em.



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DocNemesis
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Philippines446 Posts
June 24 2011 16:32 GMT
#2
HuK's rating got too high eh? That kinda explains the tweet I saw from Tyler. :/

Not much to say other than hopefully they fix the situation soon.
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RGnt
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Finland100 Posts
June 24 2011 16:39 GMT
#3
I find it ridiculous that it had t ogo this far, but I also can see Blizzards POV on this. They want this "power leveling" to end and what's better way to give "fair warning" than doing it through highly rated/up looked pros?
Nhatn: my guide names » i just think about what i want to do to ur children » np
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
June 24 2011 16:49 GMT
#4
Warlike Prince June 25 2011 01:04. Posts 96 PM Profile Quote #
On June 25 2011 00:51 Kennigit wrote:
Hide nested quote -
On June 25 2011 00:50 DusTerr wrote:
Don't the team houses have practice accounts that they all share? (or just smurf accounts for each player?)

Yup but they dont stream the account sharing to 25k ppl.


Did you miss GSTL. They all play on the same account and stream to a lot more. Huk cant play with out doing this, GSTL teams have no excuse as all they would have to do is relog.

I know one is on ladder and one is not, but a rule is a rule, is it not ?

Edit : dont team house have shared accounts too ?


Thread locked after this. Toes being tread on. Blizzard can't accept account sharing, TL doesn't want to attract attention and bring down the hard crackdown from Blizzard (who obviously let a lot of this slide). I think you can't talk about this here, and probably no good can come from it anyway.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
June 24 2011 16:53 GMT
#5
HuK is too good!
Its not fair that they allow cases in the GSTL to slide.
Agree with it should be punishable if using someone else's account on ladder.
What are they saying if i have a friend over i cant let him have a turn to try it out?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17008 Posts
June 24 2011 16:54 GMT
#6
On June 25 2011 01:49 deathly rat wrote:
Warlike Prince June 25 2011 01:04. Posts 96 PM Profile Quote #
On June 25 2011 00:51 Kennigit wrote:
Hide nested quote -
On June 25 2011 00:50 DusTerr wrote:
Don't the team houses have practice accounts that they all share? (or just smurf accounts for each player?)

Yup but they dont stream the account sharing to 25k ppl.


Did you miss GSTL. They all play on the same account and stream to a lot more. Huk cant play with out doing this, GSTL teams have no excuse as all they would have to do is relog.

I know one is on ladder and one is not, but a rule is a rule, is it not ?

Edit : dont team house have shared accounts too ?


Thread locked after this. Toes being tread on. Blizzard can't accept account sharing, TL doesn't want to attract attention and bring down the hard crackdown from Blizzard (who obviously let a lot of this slide). I think you can't talk about this here, and probably no good can come from it anyway.


You're right, it's a massive conspiracy.

:/
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
June 24 2011 16:55 GMT
#7
On June 25 2011 01:53 ComaDose wrote:
HuK is too good!
Its not fair that they allow cases in the GSTL to slide.



Guest accounts are allowed to be used for these. Blizzard gives GOM as many guest passes as they require.
Brood War forever!
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
June 24 2011 16:57 GMT
#8
Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't watching you
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RGnt
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Finland100 Posts
June 24 2011 16:57 GMT
#9
It's not conspiracy, and those accounts they use in GSTL are purely meant for that tournament and don't have any other games on em, except said tournament customs. And again, remember that everyone who has created an account (/isntalled the game) has AGREED on these rules to not share accounts with ANYONE.
Nhatn: my guide names » i just think about what i want to do to ur children » np
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
June 24 2011 17:00 GMT
#10
Man, this is so silly.

I guess Huk needs to buy new ladder accounts so he can rank them up real high and play himself!
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
June 24 2011 17:03 GMT
#11
In WoW it was always kind of understood that top players in both arena and raiding were "exempt" from the account sharing rule....we certainly never took any pains to hide it even when talking directly with Blizzard GMs. I guess I sort of assumed the same would hold true for SC2.
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RGnt
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Finland100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 17:07:48
June 24 2011 17:06 GMT
#12
Shifft, did you do that in front of 20-30 thousands viewers?

And yeah I know it was common in WoW to share accounts, trade game tiem cards for gold and so forth within the guild. But it wasn't done "in public". Kinda like you can run round naked when you're home but try to do it in public
Nhatn: my guide names » i just think about what i want to do to ur children » np
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
June 24 2011 17:07 GMT
#13
On June 25 2011 02:06 RGnt wrote:
Shifft, did you do that in front of 20-30 thousands viewers?

No, but it's not like it was a secret to anyone.
=O
RGnt
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Finland100 Posts
June 24 2011 17:09 GMT
#14
Yeah as I edited earlier reply, it was one of these "don't tell" things that everyone is doing. Especially in high level play. But when you have said viewers it will promote wrong image, so Blizzard was more or less "forced" to say something, even if we (or them) don't like it.
Nhatn: my guide names » i just think about what i want to do to ur children » np
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 17:25:28
June 24 2011 17:25 GMT
#15
They have these rules from start in WoW (not allow to acc share) too, so nothing really special that this was coming.
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