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FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
June 20 2011 09:05 GMT
#1
I was testing out spiral knights today when I noticed that the gear you equip to your character can level up. It doesn't seem to interesting so far but I do remember having a lot of fun with the Secret of Mana and Ratchet and Clank weapon leveling systems.

Can anybody point me to some other games that use weapon leveling mechanics and maybe a brief idea of what made the game fun/interesting/not interesting?

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Enderbantoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States465 Posts
June 20 2011 09:12 GMT
#2
Cave Story. Great 2d platformer/rpg, argued to be the best free game ever. you won't regret
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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
June 20 2011 09:13 GMT
#3
This just reminds me about the horrible legendary weapons of lord of the rings online which gain experience with every kill, but other than that i can't think of the name of any other game with leveling weapons (though iirc i played a few of those)

It's imho a silly idea anyways as in reality weapons get worse by using them, not better. Also this game design often forces you to grind (depending on the game) to level up your weapons if you change them later.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
June 20 2011 09:13 GMT
#4
Drakengard for Playstation 2. You need to kill enemies to do so, so it's a lot of grinding. It's a pretty cool game, you have a dragon as well which will level up too and so, killing is a lot easier. You can somewhat compare the game to Dynasty Warriors.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
June 20 2011 09:14 GMT
#5
Hmm.

I remember Planescape Torment had a character, Dak'kon whose sword leveled as he did. Which was nifty cuz it was the only weapon he could wield. But Torment wasn't much about maximising character potential in battle, more the story elements, so perhaps not the best.
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Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
June 20 2011 09:18 GMT
#6
FFII and some FFs have the weapon levelling systems, e.g. you use a certain weapon or spell enough times and it levels up, becoming stronger (obviously).

For a non-RPG, Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory was an fps where you levelled up skills and your weapons got better. E.g. iirc there was a light weapon skill to level up, sensory, and probably 2 others.
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
June 20 2011 09:26 GMT
#7
On June 20 2011 18:13 Lucumo wrote:
Drakengard for Playstation 2. You need to kill enemies to do so, so it's a lot of grinding. It's a pretty cool game, you have a dragon as well which will level up too and so, killing is a lot easier. You can somewhat compare the game to Dynasty Warriors.


I do remember playing drakengard now! That was worth playing just for the weird as all hell alternate endings. I though it was really neat how every weapon had a different magic you could cast if it was equipped and would change shape as you leveled it.
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
June 20 2011 09:33 GMT
#8
Secret of Mana has weapon leveling, basically when you leveled up a skill you get a new charge up attack. For instance, if you have a sword level 0 you have a standard slash, level 1 is a second long charge that is a lunge attack. Level 2 is a 2 second long charge that is an AoE attack, and it goes on and on up to level 8, for like 9 different weapons. Awesome game!
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Zilver
Profile Joined December 2008
Finland282 Posts
June 20 2011 11:29 GMT
#9
Disgaea for ps2/psp/ps3 has a cool item lvl system where you enter the actual item you want to level up and battle through floors until you're satisfied/can't go any further.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
June 20 2011 11:49 GMT
#10
oh god dont play disgaea for the grinding unless you're a madman haha
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ztoa03
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines181 Posts
June 20 2011 12:08 GMT
#11
I (can barely) remember this game with Zero/Megaman in which the Z-saber/X-buster level up. I think it was on the GBA.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
June 20 2011 12:09 GMT
#12
Although I didn't like the game very much. FF13's weapon system was extremely well done. the change in experience depending on what you used to upgrade the weapon was well thought out. Albeit a little bit random.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4436 Posts
June 20 2011 12:21 GMT
#13
Ninja Gaiden weapons level up, they only have 3 levels though. I just want to recommend it anyway cos it's awesome!
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TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
June 20 2011 12:23 GMT
#14
Ayla in Chrono Trigger. When she got to like 75 and then 99 or something her fists upgraded ha
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
June 20 2011 12:25 GMT
#15
Ratchet and clank was really really fun. I remember this game had a shark gun, just can't remember what game it was.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
June 20 2011 12:28 GMT
#16
Borderlands - PC & XBOX (PS3?)
Final Fantasy XIII - XBOX & PS3
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 20 2011 12:32 GMT
#17
On June 20 2011 21:23 TonyL2 wrote:
Ayla in Chrono Trigger. When she got to like 75 and then 99 or something her fists upgraded ha


lol i remember that, she got so ridiculously powerful by the end of that game XD

Chrono Trigger gets my vote
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FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
June 20 2011 12:38 GMT
#18
On June 20 2011 21:28 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Borderlands - PC & XBOX (PS3?)
Final Fantasy XIII - XBOX & PS3


I don't recall borderlands having weapons themselves level. Wasn't it just a character based level of competency with weapon types?

Wasn't sure on FFXIII since I haven't heard the best impressions but since it's popped up twice I should have a look.


On June 20 2011 21:21 DropBear wrote:
Ninja Gaiden weapons level up, they only have 3 levels though. I just want to recommend it anyway cos it's awesome!


Ninja Gaiden is a very cool game but the weapon level up system there seems like it's just a gateway system for the higher grade combo's like the izuna drop.

On June 20 2011 20:29 Zilver wrote:
Disgaea for ps2/psp/ps3 has a cool item lvl system where you enter the actual item you want to level up and battle through floors until you're satisfied/can't go any further.


I've got a friend with disgaea should be easy enough to acquire :D
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Tonkerchen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
680 Posts
June 20 2011 13:30 GMT
#19
Loved to level up those weapons in Secret Of Mana with friends lol.
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WooChop
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States120 Posts
June 20 2011 14:24 GMT
#20
On June 20 2011 20:49 FFGenerations wrote:
oh god dont play disgaea for the grinding unless you're a madman haha

Disgaea: The grindfest of all grindfests. I actually really like the series just because of how ridiculous it gets. If you are a perfectionist/completist, get ready to spend a lot of time on this game. To give you a frame of reference, I spent over 200 hours on Disgaea 2, and I was nowhere near close to having everything in the game.

FF2, as was mentioned, has a leveling system based on how much you use weapons/whatever, but I didn't think it was too great.

I know Dead Space has a weapon leveling/powering up system.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
June 20 2011 14:55 GMT
#21
On June 20 2011 21:23 TonyL2 wrote:
Ayla in Chrono Trigger. When she got to like 75 and then 99 or something her fists upgraded ha


the blackbelt in FF1 was also like this, too.
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garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 15:23:24
June 20 2011 15:21 GMT
#22
I realize these games may not have the same kind of "leveling up" as what you mentioned in the OP, but I think that there is enough emphasis on upgrading your weapons to make these relevant:

Final Fantasy 2 (stats on your characters - not your weapons - regarding weapon proficiency)
Some people already gave their reasons. I'm just going to add that it is still my favourite Final Fantasy of all time (tied with FF5). Great characters, cool stat system, decent story.

Final Fantasy 9
You can forge old weapons into new ones. Since there are opportunities for weapon/armor synthesis in almost every major city, I'd say that it's a main point of the game. My favourite thing about it is that it makes holding onto your old equipment worthwhile.

Tales of Symphonia
Of all the Tales games I've played, I think I did the most weapon customization in this one. Works similar to FF9. This is absolutely my favourite JRPG of all time. I think the best way to explain it is this: it's the FF7 of the Tales series.

Cave Story
Lovely free-to-play platformer/2D side-scroller. Very charming game with fun gameplay. Big emphasis on weapon upgrades, since that's really what will make or break it on the harder game paths.

Knights of the Old Republic
Let me start off by saying that even though this game is a dinosaur, I JUST started playing it this month and am really enjoying it. It took a little while to get used to the controls, even with my own custom hotkeys, but I'm thoroughly enjoying the game. Some great dialogues, decent item customization, and plenty of skills to choose from. The combat has a pretty steep learning curve though.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 20 2011 15:35 GMT
#23
Dark Cloud 2 has only a pure leveling weapon effect. There is no level for the character, only the weapons that can change depending on what strengths (against certain types of monsters) you put into it and it evolves, changing its aesthetic form.

Really great game.
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Sotamursu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland612 Posts
June 20 2011 20:35 GMT
#24
Onimusha 2: Samurai's Destiny

A sweet PS2 game. You kill enemies and collect their souls, which you can spend on leveling weapons. Each weapon had like 3 ranks if I remember correctly and changes every time you level (new moves, faster animations, better looks etc.)
Adastrom
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada219 Posts
June 20 2011 20:46 GMT
#25
maple story lololololololol
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Symmetry
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada294 Posts
June 20 2011 20:50 GMT
#26
I would highly recommend you check out Darksiders if you've got a system that can run it. It's a very fun, well made God-of-War style game. Your sword Chaoseater consumes the souls of enemies you kill and gains power over time (as well as your other two main weapons, mind you). You can also purchase different strikes and whatnot using more souls. Souls.

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