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billy5000
United States865 Posts
I understand it takes commitment and sacrifice to learn just about anything nowadays, but aren't there other things I could do while I learn to program? Like when I was learning spanish, I could at least enjoy applying what I learned by communicating with other classmates, comprehend silly spanish soap operas, etc. Thanks  | ||
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Augury
United States758 Posts
That's probably where I would go to learn Python. There are a wide range of random programs you can make, but if you're looking to create something unique/useable.. you could always learn the Django framework after you finish learning Python. I've only ever gotten into web development passionately, so I can't be of much assistance unless you're interested in that aspect of programming. | ||
MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
Writing games is always fun, no matter how trivial they are. Tetris, snakes/nibbles, a simple quiz game,... there is so much possible stuff to write. | ||
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Cyclone999
Canada331 Posts
 )The only thing that got me interested was private servers (for MMORPGs) Although I won't go into detail, I instantly made a ton of developers around my level and we talked and learned Java together, and made a successful private server  Learning how to make functions and constructors to create trading systems, my friend using networking to make the server more stable...etc. It was all in good fun. This post has nothing to do with Python, although it does answer the question about programming interests. | ||
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HowitZer
United States1610 Posts
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
There are more people in this site alone willing to learn python. XCetron is one of them, or you can pm me. | ||
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billy5000
United States865 Posts
On June 11 2011 08:12 Cloud wrote: Stop taking notes. Programming is a craft: you learn by doing it. Anyone gets bored just reading books, they should be left for bedtime reading or even just reference. Try to find a study partner, maybe here on the site (I miiiiight be able to oblige since I've been wanting to learn python for a while). If you can't find one then look for the community: Google groups, IRC (there's a big python channel in freenode), twitter, facebook, the official python website should have links to blogs, etc. There are more people in this site alone willing to learn python. XCetron is one of them, or you can pm me. The only reason why I take notes is to quickly reference a certain section, so I can repeatedly work on it using IDLE and putting it into long term memory. I'm quite nervous about finding a study partner as I have absolutely no programming background. Additionally, jargon may possibly make communications even more complicated :\ But I'll make sure that I check out the alternatives in the meantime. | ||
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Xswordy
United Kingdom425 Posts
This guy on youtube has great programming tutorials, especially Java. Look through his playlist, he has python aswell but I haven't looked through those so I don't know if they are that good, however the Java ones are really nice. | ||
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MisterD
Germany1338 Posts
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
(link) using Python to get yourself familiar with the language. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On June 11 2011 08:21 billy5000 wrote: The only reason why I take notes is to quickly reference a certain section, so I can repeatedly work on it using IDLE and putting it into long term memory. I'm quite nervous about finding a study partner as I have absolutely no programming background. Additionally, jargon may possibly make communications even more complicated :\ But I'll make sure that I check out the alternatives in the meantime. Fear of looking stupid is one of the first things you have to unlearn. I mean, first it starts like with you, not wanting to find a partner, then it will be not willing to share your code with others for the same reason, even deleting your own code when there's the chance someone else might see it. It's actually a terrible habit for a programmer. I can be a partner if you're willing to let go of that habit. Everything I know about programming i learnt on the web and I assure you that jargon's not a problem. | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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Flow.of.soul
United States210 Posts
As for coming up with a project, it should coincide with something else you're interested in. It's what so great about programming, you can apply it to anything if you set your mind too it! Also if you find something frustrated and wish it was automated, figure out how to do it with Python. One of my earlier projects was to program a simple back up utility that would back up my files to a USB hard drive. Sure, there are a lot of programs that could do this for me but I had never found one I liked with the simple features I needed so I just made one myself. If you're looking for inspiration go onto open source hosting pages such as Google's Project Hosting, Github, or Source Forge and look at the random small projects people have released as open source. If you find something you think is useful and cool instead of just downloading the program, program it yourself. In the end programming should be enjoyable (or challenging if you enjoy a challenge) and it shouldn't feel like work if you're doing it in your spare time. | ||
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GigaFlop
United States1146 Posts
Maybe just start with a small calculator program? | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I think your problem is more one of motivation than one of approach to learning programming. Work in microbursts. | ||
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RedJustice
United States1004 Posts
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
...but no Java classes D: | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Not all books are equal. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
I'm learning Haskell since it seemed interesting, and it'd be a nice introduction and refresher for C or Java or whatever I'm supposed to learn next year. I'm a novice though, but just know you're not alone! | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
1) Do task 1 2) Task 2 ... 0) Quit etc It didn't matter so much what my tasks did. It's more that I enjoyed the process of figuring out for myself what needs to be done. | ||
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Soulfire
United States237 Posts
Basically, I'm unable to run Python scripts. I create a text document, enter some code, rename it xxx.py, and associate all .py files with the interpreter, python.exe, as instructed. However, when I open/run the .py file, all I get is the empty python command line (aside from version info, etc), as you would get from simply running python.exe. Anyone? | ||
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zoombini
United States67 Posts
On June 12 2011 12:55 Soulfire wrote: I also just started learning Python, but appear to have run into an issue that prevents me from doing so. Hopefully someone here can help. Basically, I'm unable to run Python scripts. I create a text document, enter some code, rename it xxx.py, and associate all .py files with the interpreter, python.exe, as instructed. However, when I open/run the .py file, all I get is the empty python command line (aside from version info, etc), as you would get from simply running python.exe. Anyone? Why don't you just use Python's IDLE instead? All you have to do is press F5 to run your code. | ||
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Soulfire
United States237 Posts
On June 12 2011 13:59 zoombini wrote: Why don't you just use Python's IDLE instead? All you have to do is press F5 to run your code. Awesome, I didn't even know that was there. Do you by chance know what the .exe for the IDLE GUI is, so that I can set windows to open all .py files with it with a simple double click on the .py file? I can only find the shortcut to it, and it doesn't seem to direct to anything in the Properties. Likely there isn't one at all and I'm dumb, and if that's the case, is it possible to set the default program for .py files to that IDLE GUI at all? Thanks again. EDIT: Nevermind, found it. It's a well-hidden file named idle.pyw. EDIT 2: Actually, still can't tell .py files to open with IDLE. So as of right now the only way to run scripts is through a command in the command line/the IDLE interface (File --> Open). Anyone know how to convince Windows to open .py files into command line, IDLE, anything? | ||
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zoombini
United States67 Posts
EDIT 2: Actually, still can't tell .py files to open with IDLE. So as of right now the only way to run scripts is through a command in the command line/the IDLE interface (File --> Open). Anyone know how to convince Windows to open .py files into command line, IDLE, anything? Try right click on the .py file and click Edit with IDLE. | ||
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Soulfire
United States237 Posts
On June 13 2011 06:14 zoombini wrote: Try right click on the .py file and click Edit with IDLE. That's what I've been doing, but I get an error message when I try to open with IDLE, something about the .py file "not being a valid Win32 application". When I try to open with python.exe in the same way, it just doesn't open the .py file and just starts an empty python command line. Getting either of these to work would be fine for me. | ||
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