• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:54
CET 06:54
KST 14:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Mechabellum Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
12 Days of Starcraft US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1316 users

Lovers

Blogs > Kamille
Post a Reply
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 04:02:22
June 06 2011 04:01 GMT
#1
This is an analysis on love and its effect on lovers. My reasoning for doing this is twofold. First, I wish to prove myself capable and not worthless. The second is to preserve as well as improve my writing. My analysis has been in the past characterized as vague and incomplete, at times. If at any point there is anything that you feel is left out, I will try to clarify it as best as possible. If none of this is of any interest to you, then do not feel obligated to continue reading.

The first point is contradictory to the serene image of love given to us. Looking at the phrase “all is fair in love and war,” demonstrates the justifications given for love. Love is savage. Its subsequent effect on lovers can be shameful if not outright damning. Charles Stewart Parnell is recognized as a pivotal figure in Irish history and was the first Irishman capable of giving freedom to Ireland. All of his support vanished once his affair with Katharine O’Shea was revealed. Her divorce and remarriage to Parnell did not court the favor of the Catholic Irish. Ireland’s home rule and chance for peaceful independence died with Parnell. He risked the fate of an entire nation for her.

The horrific deeds of Claudius, in William Shakespeare’s Hamlet, could be attributed to his desire for the kingship of Denmark. Yet as pointed out by my teacher the evidence for Gertrude’s hand is present. When Claudius explains his motivations he includes Gertrude as well as his kingdom, but the former is typically forgotten. After Hamlet’s slaying of Polonius, Claudius chose to send him to England. He avoided displeasing Gertrude, but something had to be done about Hamlet. His actions warrant punishment from the king. He sent him away, in order to keep Gertrude from discovering Hamlet’s death, which was sealed by a letter carried with Rosencrantz and Guildenstern. He had the power and justification for Hamlet’s immediate death, but chose England for the sake of his queen. At the conclusion of the play, Gertrude’s death leaves Claudius nearly speechless. His lines are reduced and her death or imminent death becomes his main concern. There is evidence of Claudius’ desire for Gertrude and his crimes of both fratricide and regicide confirm the lengths one would go to for love.

Another contradiction is the idea illumination of love. My favorite example is from The Little Prince. Our protagonist loves his flower and goes through many trials to please her. He complimented her and fetched a glass dome to protect her, but never understood her. Part of this can be blamed on the flower. Her obstinacy and vanity would not permit her to admit her faults before it was too late. Even after recounting her faults, she forces him to leave. What else can our protagonist do in such a predicament? He runs away in order to discover the importance of his flower.

There are no established images of love. At once it can be the recognized sweetness or the cause for alarm. At once it can be the clarification of life or the crisis of a soul. Love and lovers are unpredictable.

Edit. Formatting

*
Priphea
stephenkingfan
Profile Joined May 2011
8 Posts
June 06 2011 07:47 GMT
#2
You sound like me when I was in highschool. Go get a blow job or two. Become their platonic friends. Write about love again when you have more perspectives to ground your belief.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
June 06 2011 11:22 GMT
#3
Uhhh...
I had to reread lots of parts and all of your paragraphs many times.
I feel like you should clarify and even reiterate the points you are trying to make as everything gets lost when you start going into detail with each of your examples.
I'm also wondering what your point/findings are, especially with your conclusion? and why you decided to use fiction and an example of lust to discuss love?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
June 06 2011 12:06 GMT
#4
Since when did you come from Monaco. =/

Interesting read anyhow, especially on Hamlet. As you said, most high school kids learn about corruption of Claudius for power and not much about his lust (or love) for Gertrude. Majority of the play is focused on Hamlet's inability to act or choose.

Anyhow did you write this because Roffles went emo on TS? lol
[TLMS] REBOOT
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
June 06 2011 18:32 GMT
#5
The point about Parnell is a bit short. I tried to incorporate his importance to the Irish cause without having to go through the entirety of Irish history. His presence was not felt since the days of Wolfe Tone and his chance of freedom would not be grasped until the days of Michael Collins. If I started to explain the importance of Tone and Collins, I would be tempted to ramble about Irish history. I think the length of it is already off-putting enough, without a retelling of Irish history.

As for Claudius, I thought the universality of Hamlet extended to characters not named Hamlet. Claudius is an effective ruler as demonstrated by avoiding war with Norway. Yet he would never have been given the chance, since he was the younger sibling. While the evidence for lust was there, his actions demonstrate a kinder approach to Gertrude.

The Little Prince was far more personal. I wanted to know how many people would understand it. The book itself is littered with little truths.

As for a reason, I'm not sure. Perhaps it was the idea of contradictions.

And no, this was in progress before his explosion.

Yes that really is all that matters Mr. "stephenkingfan", but what else could one expect from a "stephenking" fan?
Priphea
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4010 Posts
June 06 2011 20:16 GMT
#6
On June 07 2011 03:32 Kamille wrote:
Yes that really is all that matters Mr. "stephenkingfan", but what else could one expect from a "stephenking" fan?


Wow, as much as your whole post is driving at some understanding of what it means to be loved, this belies a really snobbish attitude.

In love as in reasonable conversation, a little niceness goes a long way, chief.
Moderator@SirJolt
stephenkingfan
Profile Joined May 2011
8 Posts
June 07 2011 08:37 GMT
#7
I'm not sure why you're belittling my ID. Stephen King is a master of prose. While you may disagree with his genre, his writing abilities are idolized by many.

And since you seem so captured by Shakespeare, go read some Romeo + Juliet and laugh with me at your irony.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
01:00
StarCraft Evolution League #17
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft551
RuFF_SC2 240
Nina 163
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 6554
Shuttle 393
Leta 137
scan(afreeca) 73
Mong 47
Hm[arnc] 25
Dota 2
monkeys_forever435
NeuroSwarm102
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 713
C9.Mang0476
Counter-Strike
summit1g7700
minikerr39
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor138
Other Games
fl0m727
ViBE154
KawaiiRice2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick897
BasetradeTV55
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1214
• Lourlo1149
• HappyZerGling108
Other Games
• Scarra1521
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
14h 6m
Sziky vs eOnzErG
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 4h
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
OSC
1d 12h
BSL 21
1d 14h
Cross vs Dewalt
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
3 days
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
6 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1 - W1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1 - W2
Escore Tournament S1 - W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.