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[GSL ST] ro64 Trivia by Code S Status

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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 09:04:59
June 01 2011 08:00 GMT
#1
Recently, there has been a lot of talk about how brutal the GSL Code A is. Implied in these conversation are that there are many talented players in relegated in Code A or lower that can dominate if they scaled the climb into the Code S. The GSL Super Tournament, as the first of its kind, pit together a mesh of 64 Code S, A, and former Code A players, making it the perfect battleground to testing this hypothesis.

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Trivia

  • 32 current Code S and 15 current Code A players are participant of the GSL Super Tournament. (P)Nuts is the only player in the current Code S/A lineup that fails to obtain sufficient points to qualify for the GSL ST. Of the 17 players not in either Code currently, 6 were former Code S players. In total, 47 of the 64 players participating are or have been a member of the Code S.
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    Original Code S - 10 of 17 remain.
    MVP, anypro, Inca, MarineKingPrime, Tester, Hongun, Genius, FruitDealer, Ensnare, MC, Clide, Polt, Nestea, Nada, Kyrix, Zenio, Rain
    Promoted to Code S - 10 of 15 remain.
    SuperNova, Keen, Violet, July, sC, LosiRa, Byun, HuK, Alicia, Alive, Top Killer, Virus, Bomber, CoCa
    Demoted from Code S - 5 of 15 remain.
    Lyn, Check, TheWind, jookTo, Boxer, TheBest, san, Rainbow, Hyperdub, Leenock, Maka, LegalMind, Jinro, Choya, Vanvan.
    Non-Code S - 7 of 17 remain.
    MMA, Yugioh, Ganzi, Squirtle, August, ButterflyEffect, ACE, Ryung, Moon, Revival, Cezanne, JJUN, Junwi, Creator, Min, Noblesse, Line

  • 17 of the current 32 Code S players were part of the original Code S lineup from the beginning of the year (MVP and Rain have dropped briefly into Code A). 7 of these 17 players (whom I label collectively as S - original Code S) exited the tournament in the ro64. As a group, they have a map record of 23 - 20.
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    Out in ro64
    anypro, Inca, FruitDealer, Ensnare, MC, Zenio, Rain
    Advanced to ro32
    MVP, MarineKingPrime, Tester, HongUn, Genius, Clide, Polt, Nestea, NaDa, Kyrix

  • Remaining 15 of the current 32 Code S players are promoted from Code A this year. Only 5 of the 15 players (whom I labeled collectively as P - promoted into Code S) dropped out at ro64. As a group, they have a map record of 23 - 13.
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    Out in ro64
    July, Losira, Alive, Killer, CoCa
    Advanced to ro32
    SuperNova, Keen, Violet, sC, Byun, Huk, Alicia, Top, Virus, BomBer

  • Corresponding to the promoted players, 15 players have been demoted from Code S, including (T)Lyn whom was promoted in January but dropped out this May. 10 members of this group (whom I labeled collectively as D) fell at ro64. As a group, they have a map record of 12 - 22.
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    Out in ro64
    Lyn, Check, TheWind, Boxer, san, Rainbow, Hyperdub, LegalMind, Jinro, Vanvan
    Advanced to ro32
    jookTo, TheBest, Leenock, Maka, Choya

  • 17 of the players participating in the Super Tournament never made it into Code S (collectively I label them as A). 10 of them have dropped out of ro64 with a group record of 18 - 21.
    + Show Spoiler +
    out in ro64
    YugiOh, Squirtle, August, ButterflyEffect, Moon, Cezanne, JJUN, Junwi, Creator, Noblesse
    Advanced to ro32
    MMA, Ganzi, ACE, Ryung, Revival, Min, Line

  • Of the four classifications of players identified above (Code S, Promoted Code S, Demoted Code S, Non-Code S), the Promoted Code S players performed the best by both numbers advanced and overall map record. On the other hand, non-Code S players suffer the most loses in their ranks, while demoted players had the worse map record.

  • Promoted Code S players have a winning record against all other classifications. Especially against demoted Code S players, whom they are 5-1 (10-3) against.

  • A special note about the current Code A players, 9 of which were demoted from Code S. Of this group, none of them made it out of ro64. In contrast, the other 5 Code A players in the Super Tournament have a 3-3 (7-6) record.
    + Show Spoiler +
    Lyn, Check, TheWind, Boxer, san, Rainbow, Hyperdub, Jinro, Vanvan


Head to Head Chart

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Head to Head Data
Code S vs Promoted
(P)MC 0 - 2 (P)Alicia
(T)Polt 2 - 1 (T)LosirA
(T)NaDa 2 - 0 (Z)CoCa
(T)Rain 0 - 2 (T)Keen
Total: 2-2 (4-5)
Code S vs Demoted
(P)anypro 1 - 2 (Z)JookTo
(T)Genius 2 - 1 (T)BoxeR
(T)Clide 2 - 1 (P)RainBOw
(Z)Kyrix 2 - 0 (P)Vanvanth
(Z)Zenio 1 - 2 (P)Choya
Total: 3-2 (8-6)
Code S vs Code A
(T)MVP 2 - 1 (P)Creator
(P)InCa 0 - 2 (T)Ryung
(P)MarineKingPrime 2 - 0 (P)Squirtle
(P)TesteR 2 - 0 (Z)YuGiOh
(P)HongUn 2 - 1 (Z)Moon
(Z)FruitDealer 1 - 2 ACE
(T)Ensnare 0 - 2 (Z)RevivaL
(Z)NesTea 2 - 1 (T)Cezanne
Total: 5-3 (11-9)
Promoted vs Demoted
(T)SuperNoVa 2 - 0 (Z)Check
(P)Violet 2 - 0 (Z)TheWinD
(T)sC 2 - 0 (T)Hyperdub
(T)Byun 2 - 1 (P)LegalMind
(P)HuK 2 - 1 (P)San
(T)aLive 0 - 2 (Z)Leenock
Total: 5-1 (10-3)
Promoted vs Code A
(Z)July 1 - 2 (Z)Min
(T)TOP 2 - 0 (T)August
(P)Virus 2 - 1 (Z)Junwi
Total: 2-1 (5-3)
Demoted vs Code A
(T)Lyn 1 - 2 (T)MMA
(T)TheBest 2 - 0 (T)Jjun
(T)Maka 0 - 0 (T)Noblesse *
(T)Jinro 0 - 2 (Z)Line
* walk-over
Total: 2-2 (3-4)
Same Status
P: (P)Virus 2 - 1 (Z)KiLLeR
A: (T)ButterflyEffect 0 - 2 (T)GanZi


*****
Thank God and gunrun.
tkRage
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
225 Posts
June 01 2011 08:12 GMT
#2
wow what a thread. nice.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 01 2011 08:14 GMT
#3
i was wondering what happened to ganzi :O
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 09:04:21
June 01 2011 08:23 GMT
#4
Inferences

  • Code S players whom advanced through the up-and-down matches perform slightly better than the original Code S players and significantly better than former Code S players. That means as a whole, the Code S skill level have increased.
  • The current Code S players are performing only slightly better than the non-Code S players. The worst performing group are demoted Code S players whom are still in Code A, so expect them to quickly drop off from GSL all together.
  • Code A players whom has yet to break into Code S performs surprisingly well, indicating there are certainly talent blocked by the up-and-down system.

Thank God and gunrun.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 01 2011 14:57 GMT
#5
Yeah, I've always thought that the system really slows down those who are stuck in Code A, out of reach of the more lucrative prizes, but now you've provided some evidence for it.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
bobq
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States136 Posts
June 07 2011 14:16 GMT
#6
Just found this; totally awesome. I know digging through the numbers to get an overall view like this can be a pain. Thanks for doing it for us
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 07 2011 14:36 GMT
#7
Virus beat Killer? It was Bomber.
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
June 09 2011 15:22 GMT
#8
How does this not get attention? Great post, great info.
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HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 15:59:13
June 09 2011 15:58 GMT
#9
nvm
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