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Let me start with following preamble:
We need to pay attention and be mindful of where we get our news- the decline of traditional newspapers and "real" tv news leaves us woefully vulnerable to things like fox news and aggregation that gives you a headline but no real content. It's worth paying for real news, and if NY Times made me pay, I would do it.
However- even more than I hate fox news, I hate lazy programmers.
They're new "membership" requirement is a joke- I wrote a script that gets around it in about a minute and a half. I sent it to the editors in the hopes that they'll get smarter programmers, but in the meantime, if any of you are big readers of the NYT:
When you open an article, and the stupid overlay comes down saying you have to register, just pop this into your address bar and hit enter. I made it a bookmark so I can just click on that.
javascript: (%20function(){%20%20document.getElementById("overlay").style.visibility="hidden";%20document.getElementById("gatewayCreative").style.visibility="hidden";%20document.body.parentNode.style.overflow="scroll";%20%20%20})();
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i do the same. but i just rescript the login paras.
anyway, online content is promising and scary at the same time. we have to be vigilant about content and political economy of our sources.
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i copied that whole thing but it doesn't work for me.
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the Dagon Knight4009 Posts
Murdoch is, it seems, slowly losing touch with the realities of digital publishing. Ironically, the best they could hope from their paywall was that it be so small an obstacle that people might easily sidestep it (and here we are).
Didn't Murdoch publically claim that Google, by means of content aggregation, was "stealing" from his company? Naturally, when Google suggested that it would be easy enough for him to ensure that none of his company's stuff would ever show up in searches he was very quiet.
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Meh, in my mind, fox news is less of an evil than content aggregation. At least the markets are different- fox is entertainment, NYT is news. Content aggregaters directly steal, water down, and republish real news.
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The faster that MSM disappears the better. Why on Earth you would wish for the Status-Quo to be maintained is beyond me. The whole outfit is the biggest goddamn propaganda machine on the planet.
Obligatory:
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kidxh6vYN84[/video]
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On May 22 2011 22:35 SirJolt wrote:
Murdoch is, it seems, slowly losing touch with the realities of digital publishing. Ironically, the best they could hope from their paywall was that it be so small an obstacle that people might easily sidestep it (and here we are).
Didn't Murdoch publically claim that Google, by means of content aggregation, was "stealing" from his company? Naturally, when Google suggested that it would be easy enough for him to ensure that none of his company's stuff would ever show up in searches he was very quiet.
murdoch has zero to do with the nyt dude
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On May 22 2011 22:37 SlimeBagly wrote:
Meh, in my mind, fox news is less of an evil than content aggregation. At least the markets are different- fox is entertainment, NYT is news. Content aggregaters directly steal, water down, and republish real news.
You actually think that people consider Fox News to be entertainment? And that somehow makes them less evil?
Watch some documentaries about the network. Fox News is very powerful, and skews the national dialog. Though all news, to varying degrees, is propaganda.
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preaching to the choir, brother.
I'm talking about in terms of threat to sources like the NYT. Anyone that watches Glenn Beck isn't going to pay for NYT.
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