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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 09 2011 22:39 GMT
#21
On May 10 2011 07:28 travis wrote:
I've never understood exactly how cable based ISPs operate as far as who owns the actual cables in comparison to who is managing the traffic. I tried to figure it out but couldn't.

Can any business that wants to lay new cable?

If so, then this isn't a problem right? A new business should just come in and lay higher bandwidth cable and take customers?


just for reference of the UK model. BT (british telecom) used to be owned by the government, so it was incharge of not only building infrastructure but also being the telephone company. with both phone services and internet it is now forced to allow other companies to buy up usage of the infrastructure, but BT still has to maintain it, but it still receives some money from the government for this.

about 5 years ago virgin entered the scene with a bucketload of money, dug up the streets and laid their own cabling. so now they can offer internet/phone without going through BT. a bigger initial investment for more profit long term

since we have geniune choice in the UK, noone could realistically complain that youtube is too hard to deal with, because people would switch provider.

i imagine france only has 1 company in charge of infrastructure and that is why they are able to roadblock improvements?
icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 23:05:18
May 09 2011 22:47 GMT
#22
I dont think this will be a problem for long, there are several isp you can chose from. People will start to switch their isp accordingly.

Also, they got it wrong (on purpose) - google is paying for bandwith. Maybe french isps shouldnt overbook their bandwith like retards?

According to those links they shape the traffic,

http://www.google.fr/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=2cb0b0ce2755c760&hl=en
http://cowboymaejofc.com/?p=646
I am the Punishment of God. If you had not commited great sins, god would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 22:51:57
May 09 2011 22:47 GMT
#23
On May 10 2011 07:39 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 07:28 travis wrote:
I've never understood exactly how cable based ISPs operate as far as who owns the actual cables in comparison to who is managing the traffic. I tried to figure it out but couldn't.

Can any business that wants to lay new cable?

If so, then this isn't a problem right? A new business should just come in and lay higher bandwidth cable and take customers?


just for reference of the UK model. BT (british telecom) used to be owned by the government, so it was incharge of not only building infrastructure but also being the telephone company. with both phone services and internet it is now forced to allow other companies to buy up usage of the infrastructure, but BT still has to maintain it, but it still receives some money from the government for this.

about 5 years ago virgin entered the scene with a bucketload of money, dug up the streets and laid their own cabling. so now they can offer internet/phone without going through BT. a bigger initial investment for more profit long term

since we have geniune choice in the UK, noone could realistically complain that youtube is too hard to deal with, because people would switch provider.

i imagine france only has 1 company in charge of infrastructure and that is why they are able to roadblock improvements?

It is the same thing in France. Orange belongs to France Telecom ( previously state owned ) and they have most of the infrastructure. Smaller compagnies have started to build their own optical fiber lines in the big cities but they don't have enough money to do that everywhere.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13970 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 23:01:05
May 09 2011 22:58 GMT
#24
I regreat making this post mods feel free to delete it.
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